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I bought a new Western Enterprises crimping tool from McMaster-Carr and it is just garbage! Half the hoses I'm crimping fly right off the barb! I'm done with that. I'm looking for an older US made crimping tool. One that says Petersen on the side. Right now I'm trying to crimp 1/4" ID hoses that are 1/2" OD.If you want to sell me one, please send me a private message, thanks!metalmagpie
Reply:I have one like you describe and have never had a problem with it.All it says on it is  "C 1" Or maybe "C I". How much PSI are you running?Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:The hoses should stay on the batbs without the ferrule. You may be using the wrong barbs for the hose.
Reply:I too have one.  Around 20 yrs old.  No issues.
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Originally Posted by mla2ofus

I have one like you describe and have never had a problem with it.All it says on it is  "C 1" Or maybe "C I". How much PSI are you running?
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Originally Posted by walker

The hoses should stay on the barbs without the ferrule. You may be using the wrong barbs for the hose.
Reply:By the way, I called McMaster and they refunded the price of the clamp and said they didn't want the tool back. So I still like them as a vendor.metalmagpie
Reply:i dont have too good a luck w/ any crimpers either.  sounds like u handled it though.    i know a guy, who has two half  U blocks, that u pound w/ hammer, kida like a die. i use wire or hose clamps to get outa a jam.    i used to work at this family shop in the smoky mountains when i was a kid, (real nice family). anyway, the great gramps, didnt build that tool for hoses, he built it for customers who didnt pay there bill.    he put the wire around there u know what, and tightened it a lil more each day. if they still didnt pay, great gramps layed them down on the welding table, and dimemebered them w/ them tools hanging on the wall, then fed them to the hogs.  anything left over, got  dumped down old abandoned wells, in the nearby canyon.    the grandson is obviously stoned, and gramps dont even know it.    the phone ringing was gramps wife wondering where he's been , but his office  sexetary took care of it on second ring    Last edited by 123weld; 01-14-2021 at 07:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by metalmagpie

I'm using a no. 5 Koike divergent tip 106D7 for oxypropane. The tip chart calls out 100 psi cutting oxygen for 2.5" plate. I measured the pressure at the torch yesterday with the oxygen stream flowing and it was only 80psi. So I turned up the regulator to make it 100 psi at the torch. It turned out to be 120 psi at the regulator.metalmagpie
Reply:Since this is stationery and not getting dragged all over the shop how about using the small worm drive clamps?Ol' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:My C 1's work fine.

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

My C 1's work fine.
Reply:I have an extra. Still new in the box. PM me your address and Ill ship it out to you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
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Originally Posted by 123weld

i dont have too good a luck w/ any crimpers either.  sounds like u handled it though.    i know a guy, who has two half  U blocks, that u pound w/ hammer, kida like a die. i use wire or hose clamps to get outa a jam.
Reply:Just FYI, max pressure for that tubing is 62psi, and that is at 73* F. Add the heat of the cutting operation and you are probably maxed out at 15 pounds or so.
Reply:I much prefer the Oetiker O-clamps over the crimped brass ferules. Never had one come apart. https://www.coastalhydraulics.net/te...it%20Flyer.pdfLast edited by Welder Dave; 01-15-2021 at 02:41 AM.
Reply:[QUOTE=Lis2323;8793716]My C 1's work fine.

That's similar to my kit. Mine has an Original Vise Grip Crimper.

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Originally Posted by Welder Dave

I much prefer the Oetiker O-clamps over the crimped brass ferules. https://www.coastalhydraulics.net/te...it%20Flyer.pdf
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Originally Posted by Rondo

I have a couple C1 Vise grip style crimpers but I always liked the one that you hit with a hammer better. Good Luck !
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

Well WTF! I just went to the shop to ship one out to you but on a whim I took the new one out of the sealed box to look at it.  I have NO idea why I did that. They are not only different in overall dimensions and color ( no big deal obviously) but one has raised (male) extrusions and the other has dimples (female).  Same C-1 part number. Maybe @Rondo can shed some light on this. Your choice....

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Reply:I use hose clamps.I seen shop made ones they just drill hole in flat bar and weld to bar hole in place. Easy to use hit harmer. I have hit Vise-Grip ones did not work as shop made. But crimp on type is pain to remove and it is one time use. So I started using hose clamps from automotive store.Dave

Originally Posted by metalmagpie

I bought a new Western Enterprises crimping tool from McMaster-Carr and it is just garbage! Half the hoses I'm crimping fly right off the barb! I'm done with that. I'm looking for an older US made crimping tool. One that says Petersen on the side. Right now I'm trying to crimp 1/4" ID hoses that are 1/2" OD.If you want to sell me one, please send me a private message, thanks!metalmagpie
Reply:I am about to purchase a kit for oxy/fuel and one for inert. Can I get some opinions on which is more preferred, a new kit with vice grip or hammer?"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!

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Originally Posted by Stick-man

I am about to purchase a kit for oxy/fuel and one for inert. Can I get some opinions on which is more preferred, a new kit with vice grip or hammer?
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Originally Posted by 123weld

i dont have too good a luck w/ any crimpers either.  sounds like u handled it though.    i know a guy, who has two half  U blocks, that u pound w/ hammer, kida like a die. i use wire or hose clamps to get outa a jam.    i used to work at this family shop in the smoky mountains when i was a kid, (real nice family). anyway, the great gramps, didnt build that tool for hoses, he built it for customers who didnt pay there bill.    he put the wire around there u know what, and tightened it a lil more each day. if they still didnt pay, great gramps layed them down on the welding table, and dimemebered them w/ them tools hanging on the wall, then fed them to the hogs.  anything left over, got  dumped down old abandoned wells, in the nearby canyon.    the grandson is obviously stoned, and gramps dont even know it.    the phone ringing was gramps wife wondering where he's been , but his office  sexetary took care of it on second ring
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Originally Posted by Stick-man

I am about to purchase a kit for oxy/fuel and one for inert. Can I get some opinions on which is more preferred, a new kit with vice grip or hammer?

Originally Posted by Lis2323

I've only used the hammer type.  One would think a long handled swage type tool similar to one used connectors for wire rope would work best. I also like using

Oetiker clamps like WelderDave mentioned. I dislike gear type clamps for this application.  Even when when using the optimum size there's always that "tail"hanging out.

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Originally Posted by Stick-man

I already have those black pliers from when I was a car mechanic changing CV boots/joints. Can you tell me what size I would need for 1/4" twin hose, and inert hose? I don't know the size system they use. Unless I just look for 1/4"??? LOL
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I have an extra. Still new in the box. PM me your address and Ill ship it out to you.
Reply:Is there any difference between regular pneumatic air hoses and welding gas hoses, as far as the fittings and crimps are concerned?  I was looking to make/fix some pneumatic hoses and got to thinking my welding cart would look a bit more tidy with shorter hoses.I'm familiar with and have the tools to crimp battery lugs/cable from 6 gauge up to 4/0.  It would be awesome if my hydraulic crimper could be used to also crimp hoses, but finding dies to fit could be challenging.JimPrimeWeld TIG225X2017 F-350 CCLB 6.7L2013 Polaris Ranger 900 XP in 2006 Fleetwood Gearbox 220FB using 3" Andersen WDHI don't always tow heavy, but when I do, I use my Superduty.Here fishy, fishy... ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ >
Reply:Welding hoses are flame resistant to a point and the nuts are specific for oxygen and fuel gas connections. Generally thicker wall than air hose and both hoses are joined together. Having separate hoses is a real PIA. They get caught on anything and everything. Fuel gas nuts are left hand thread so they can't be mixed up. You don't need a hydraulic crimper for welding hoses.
Reply:I was thinking of picking up the Pex pipe pliers and rings to repair 3/8 and half inch air hoses. Reading this discussion over, is there going to be a problem getting collars that fit unless I go to a different supplier? Are the Pex crimps not going to be tight enough?250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I was thinking of picking up the Pex pipe pliers and rings to repair 3/8 and half inch air hoses. Reading this discussion over, is there going to be a problem getting collars that fit unless I go to a different supplier? Are the Pex crimps not going to be tight enough?
Reply:I've always tossed the gas hoses rather then mend them... it's usually the first sign of impending disaster unless you're changing the length or fitting. I was thinking more about air hoses. My 1/2" ones are still fairly new, but some of the old 3/8" could use attention.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
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Originally Posted by whtbaron

I've always tossed the gas hoses rather then mend them... it's usually the first sign of impending disaster unless you're changing the length or fitting. I was thinking more about air hoses. My 1/2" ones are still fairly new, but some of the old 3/8" could use attention.
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Originally Posted by Lis2323

I use Oetiker  for air also

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Originally Posted by ronsii

I see white tape everywhere

.... except..... the nipple to the manifold

The diamond plate custom mounting bracket makes it look very 'Pro' :

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

It was SID!!!  Sid missed it.

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