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Please post any welding-related web-sites, books, magazines, etc. that you think would be a good resource for people on this forum.  I'm trying to find a good book on welding metallurgy but they are all either too simplistic or way outta my league.  If people respond to this we can use this thread as a links-page of sorts.  Thanks!
Reply:i like that idea im not a pro welder really im just getting started. So far im self taught and taught from what i have read. I have looked on the net and some welding supply shops around AZ and all i can find that will accomidate a dummy in this field is that welding book from home depot. Dont get me wrong i read alot on this forum and metalillness but sometimes its just way out of my league. i think a thread with some resources would be great.
Reply:Have you guys tried out amazon.com?  It is a great site to see if books are up your alley or not cuz they have the "user ratings" where people post their actual opinion of certain books.  I have found quite a few good publications this way.  I'll round up the titles and authors when I get a chance.
Reply:I have been welding for several years (since the mid 80s) and I still like finding good text books and manuals.  Here is one that I found a while back...the author (w. galvery) is a teacher and actually taught some of the folks who are members here.  I started a thread last year about a list of good books on a variety of topics...it had several responses, but it kinda fizzled.  The Galvery book I think is one of the best of breed for a survey of different welding techniques.  It covers a lot and in nice detail without being overly technical...unless it has to for very technical processes.  It can be read on various levels and as you learn, you can go back and find more...http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0831...01#reader-link.https://ssl.lincolnelectric.com/foundation/http://www.millerwelds.com/education...pamphlets.htmlhttp://www.aussieweld.com.au/arcwelding/index.htmhttp://www.weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=2949There is more out there, but this is a good start and will keep most folks busy for a day or two.  I have gotten a look at the AWS manual...now that is a book, and they must be proud of it, because it's the price of a decent used welder.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:I still don't like the Galvery book, or any of the Finch books.  The stuff offered by the Lincoln Foundation looks promising.-Heath
Reply:Originally Posted by MetalMafiaPlease post any welding-related web-sites, books, magazines, etc. that you think would be a good resource for people on this forum.  I'm trying to find a good book on welding metallurgy but they are all either too simplistic or way outta my league.  If people respond to this we can use this thread as a links-page of sorts.  Thanks!
Reply:Heath,I have to agree with you on the finch books...They all seem like a showcase of a particular machine or project and are not as instructional as they should be...sorta like, here is what you could do if you had a top notch machine and you already were a fantastic welder...but, I do like this particular galvery book as beginner survey and as an basic reference...I haven't seen any of his other stuff, though.  I have read that others that don't like the books either...so, maybe I am in the minority on this one.  Most of the criticism I have read is centered around his style of presentation...with questions and stuff, like a lecture.  I guess that's the kind of stuff that suits me.  The other sources (miller and lincoln and the Australian welding manual) are very no-nonsense and geared toward achieving a task and moving on to the next topic...That is probably better for folks just trying to get a skill under their belt.  There is another book listed on the lincoln website that I also have...metals and how to weld them.  That is also a good book, but uses case studies to teach.  Some of the techniques are dated and it has little or no info about advances made in welding tech. over the past 20-30 years.  I don't think inverters were around when the book was first published and many of the newer features on traditional (transformer-based) welders are also not covered.  Mig is even viewed as strictly an industrial process not really for the home user...but there is a lot of info on preheating, preperation, fillers and properties of different metals that makes it a great deal at $10...but, it reads like a book on 1950s-1960s welding, not like a modern manual.  As far as the lincoln projects books are concerned, v. II is good...v. III is also good, but most folks would not want both because there is a lot of duplication between the two volumes.  I personally like the v. II better, but neither put enough into the plans.  (BTW, where is v. I???...It must been so dated that it's no longer relevant.)  In most cases, you could do just as well with a digital camera and an example on the street.  Instructions are not all from the same source, so the quality of the info/instructions varies a lot from project to project.  I think the projects section here at weldingweb is much better than the lincoln projects books...mainly because you get more than one or two views of a project and sometimes better plans.I just wish that AWS would have a half-price sale on their books around Christmas or Mother's Day or something...I just can see dropping half a grand to a grand in a couple or few books...even though they are definately the encyclopedia of welding.  As a teacher, I have gotten used to not paying for books, so maybe I have just become too cheap for my own good.BTW, someone listed a site with pictures of projects and stuff the other day...http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/I have been browsing this area for a day or so now.  just FYI, in case folks didnt already know this site or directory.Last edited by smithboy; 03-07-2006 at 04:48 PM.Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:I still maintain that the best no-nonsense welding reference that I've seen is from the IWDC catalog which one should be able to get free from any IWDC distributor.  It is surprisingly up-to-date on the various processes and includes details on stuff like PAW and SAW, which is interesting if not irrelevant outside of the production realm.  One can presumably pick one of these up for free at any IWDC distributor.  I believe that most of the information in there comes from ESAB, which also has some of the same documents on their website.-Heath
Reply:Thanks everybody for the recommendations!  I'll definitely look into those books on metallurgy as well.  The reason i asked is because my school has taught me HOW to weld but not WHY i'm doing the things i'm doing.  The frequent answer to "why" usually turns out to be "because"  Keep 'em comin' though, I don't think there can be enough resources in this forum.  This thread alone has given me more second-hand information than the rest of the threads combined! Thanks again.
Reply:Heath,Closest IWDC distributor to me is texas.  Can you order that one or do you have to buy something to get it?Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:I'll send you one if you want it.-Heath
Reply:You have multiple?  Sure...Thanks!...send me an email to [email protected] it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Go to www.aws.org and see the welding handbooks, or look at 'welding metallurgy' by Geo Linert. It's the best reference written. Vol 2 especially.Brian Bain Welding Engineer
Reply:I was actually checkin out the Linert book yesterday.  It seems like everyday I am less interested in application and more intrigued by theory.  It's an expensive book but if i didn't spend my money on books I would end up spending it on less productive items.  Beer, for example.Just curious: What did it take for you to become an engineer, as far as experience, education, etc.?  What is it that you do as an engineer exactly?
Reply:Mr. MetalMafia,I think you need to go buy a 6-pack, sit in the corner, and THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID!!!!Beer is unproductive...my butt!The most productive and innovative countries in history have been beer drinking countries...mostly...or they at least sell beer...I think.  So, THERE!!!Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.
Reply:Right you are Smithboy.  What i meant to say is that occasionaly i do spend $120 on beer but that i regret it in the morning.  Hopefully that book won't give me a headache, although who knows...Some of the best thinking i've ever done was while i was a sipping on an oatmeal stout.  I revise my above statement to "...less productive things.  Like the bar."  Can never bring myself to buy a five dollar beer at the bar that cost only 2 buks down at the local liq.  Plus I like drinking at the park or at the lake or by the U.P. tracks next to my house.
Reply:Brian Bain has a good suggestion with Linert and the AWS welding handbooks.  Both the College of San Mateo and California Polytechnic Institute (CALPOLY San Luis Obispo), both in California, used these books extensively in their Associates and Bachelors degree welding technician and engineer programs.Another very extensive (and expensive) set of reference books is the ASM Metals Handbook series, which consists of 12 or so volumes.  Each volume is dedicated to some aspect of metal (and other materials) processing such as welding, machining, heat treating, metallurgy, coatings, etc.Check the local library, maybe better a local University library.Beer + Books = Brewer
Reply:I ordered Welding Applications, Physics, Chemistry, and Metallurgy by Messler last night from Amazon.com.  First book i ever ordered from them. I ordered it from Borders first for $215 and then found a used copy from Amazon for $100 and cancelled my order from Borders.  So now i feel like i have $115 extra dollars that i can throw at another book or some beer or both!
Reply:Hey brian, Im just curious. whats a welding engineer? is that an actual engineering field? what do you do?
Reply:Originally Posted by smithboyHeath,Closest IWDC distributor to me is texas.  Can you order that one or do you have to buy something to get it?
Reply:Hey Chris,It's good to see you back in bid'ness here.  Do you work for IWDC?  Where you headed now???  And, by the way, how's the leg?Smithboy...if it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'.