Invertec vs XMT

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Lincoln Invertec V350-PRO vs Miller XMT 304 cc/cv. Anyone have either of these machines? I guess if a guy had one of these he could do everything off one machine, stick, mig and dc tig instead of having 3 machines. Is either machine better than the other? I know the lincoln in 50 amps more than the miller. Other than that theres a few listed locally with few hours on them i thought about checking out. And I already have a LN-25 wire feed.
Reply:I've never run one of those Lincolns, but I run an XMT in all 3 modes regularly at the tech school. It's an excellent machine, and I'm in the process of getting an XMT 304 CC/CV for my own use, even though I already have machines that will do all three processes.Note that there are XMT 304 CC only models out there. For wire, you really want the CC/CV versions. Also stay away from the older XMT 300's. They weren't horrible machines ( no where near as nice as the XMT 304's), but when things go bad, it's not cost effective to repair them..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I have used an Invertec V-350 before and i definitely like the machine and the settings it has, Stick-crisp and Stick-soft. I ran across a XMT 304 cc/cv listed for $1000 tho and it made me do a double take.
Reply:Used XMT 304 CC/CV's run usually between $1200-1800 depending on condition and so on. I've seen a few as low as $900 on rare occasions. The one I'm looking at right now will probably end up costing me roughly $1000- 1200 for the unit..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I love the xmt304 best welder I have run as that goes.  I have run all modes of it and pushed one pretty hard gouging and thought I would kill it, but alas I didn't.  I stayed well within the prescribed ranges and uses, but I still thought I would hear it scream, "stop!"  It just rocked on.  I would like one, but I have three welders at home and if I bring another one home I may have to sleep with it for awhile.  I know it if multifunctioned, but I don't think I want to be sleeping with it.
Reply:I got a gently used XMT-304 to replace a dead XMT-300.  I was afraid of it having the same issues as the 300 but after talking to others before buying it has been rock solid.  I love the lift start tig.  Burns 6010 great and makes using 7018 out of position easy.  I also run a 22A wire feeder with great results.  The 300 was also a great machine but one day out of the blue it failed to start up .  The main board went bad.  If you can find an old Pow-Con CC/CV they work good as well for half the price.Dan
Reply:I cant speak for the Invertech but we have several XMT's cc/cv at work (304's and 350's). They are great welding machines in all modes. We have had a few fail that required new boards. The last one that failed was only a few months old with little use.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:i had two xmt 304's;  one i got in a trade and the other i bought on ebay.  when i first took it out of the shop to different job  sites i would put the unit in the front seat with it's seat belt on lol .   after a couple of years i was throwing one or the other in the back (i know, not recommending this but i paid for them) of the truck like someone  else's luggage.  neither one ever failed me.   ended up selling them for within a hundred dollars of what i paid originally.  now i have a new xmt 350 and it is a great unit but i also have all accessories that go with it;  30A, k3000, 8RC, several tig torches and so on.they are great units but the initial cost is only the beginning unless you are planning on just stick welding with it.i also bought the gas solenoid kit for the 350;  it was under a hundred and i had it installed in fifteen minutes.  definitely guilty of forgetting to shut that valve a few times; no worry now though.  the thing stick welds like a dream. that said i can't speak for the lincoln as i've never used one.Last edited by fdcmiami; 04-12-2012 at 07:36 PM.Reason: invertec
Reply:Originally Posted by fdcmiami...when i first took it out of the shop to different job  sites i would put the unit in the front seat with it's seat belt on lol....
Reply:I have a LN-25 wire feed that i could use with it. The Invertec that i used to tig weld we clipped the stinger onto the gas line that had an ear on it for the stinger to get power to the torch. What setup do you guys use for your dc tig work?
Replyast summer I went to an auction in hopes of winning a XMT-350. The owner of the fab shop was there, I asked him if he ever had any trouble with the machine, he replied no, but had a real bad run of bad luck with his XMT-304s! Soon as they were out of warranty a board would go out at the cost of $1,000. to $1,300. The XMT-350 went way to high for my taste for a used machine coming from a fab shop. I bought the Invertec V350-Pro with pulse. Can't believe the control this machine has over the puddle! Still would like to get my hands on a 304 or 350 just to give them a test drive.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I know the xmt-300s were real bad with the control boards, but the 304 is a durable and long lasting machine from my experience.Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2Jay DavisAWS-CWIC-60 Specialty Welding ContractorLoving husband, and father of two boys (
Reply:Originally Posted by jwolfI have a LN-25 wire feed that i could use with it. The Invertec that i used to tig weld we clipped the stinger onto the gas line that had an ear on it for the stinger to get power to the torch. What setup do you guys use for your dc tig work?
Reply:I bought a new V350 pro about 5 years ago.  It is one smooth adjustable machine.  I use pulsed spray a lot.  I tig with a #18 torch and a cool arc 40 for days at a time.  7018 can weld as smooth as butter.  A  couple   of years  ago I found a used one foe $1300, so I bought it and a new LF72.  That has to be the nicest mig welder I have used.   V350 goes up to 425 amps @ 60% duty cycle.  100%@350 amps.   Both machines have gas valves installed.  I gouge with them and have not tripped a 50 amp breaker.   I'm  a red guy though.  Never used the 304.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by jwolfI have a LN-25 wire feed that i could use with it. The Invertec that i used to tig weld we clipped the stinger onto the gas line that had an ear on it for the stinger to get power to the torch. What setup do you guys use for your dc tig work?
Reply:I like my v350 pro very much.  Haven't found a deal on a wire feeder for it yet but it stick welds as well or better than any machine I have ever used.I've seen lots of  v350 pros and xmt350s on construction sites, they seem to be very popular, the old transformer based machines seem to be getting rare on most jobs."The reason we are here is that we are not all there"SA 200Idealarc TM 300 300MM 200MM 25130a SpoolgunPrecision Tig 375Invertec V350 ProSC-32 CS 12 Wire FeederOxweld/Purox O/AArcAirHypertherm Powermax 85LN25
Reply:Yes sir that is exactly what i was talking about. Thanks for finding that old link, i try to search for old posts on here sometimes i can find what i need and sometimes not. DCEN and pure argon is used correct?
Reply:I have run all modes of it and pushed one pretty hard gouging and thought I would kill it
Reply:I have a 350xmt.  The local college I go to has a Intervec 350.    They have it wired to 480.    Last summer I ran some .072 232 vertical up 3/8 fillet w/ my xmt off an ln-25 at a cannery wired to 480.   The length of the weld was about 10" to the best of my memory.   My xmt started pudding out before I was  3/4 way through the weld.  I continued to do all the welds of 10" w/o stopping.   The appearance of them was acceptable to the eye.   But I could clearly see the weldability effected in a negative way about 6 -7 inches of welding.       I was really dissapointed.   Being it was verticle up, and gravity helped manage the slag, I was able to do it w/o stopping.       Now at the college they have .068 232 in there intervec 350 pro w/ a ln-7.    I cranked up the volt and feed to match what was needed to make the same weld I eas doing at the cannery.    I ran passes longer than 10".    No problems at all.     I cranked it up a lil more to make sure I was pushing the machine more than my xmt at the cannery.    Still no problems running passes.           Then I turned it down as low as I could, to see how low I could run 232 .068 on that machine.     I was welding on 1/8 plate verticle up, the weld became poor at 14 volts.  15 volts seemed to work.   That is a good couple volts less than what the wire was meant to run.       Then I tried the same on my xmt.   No could do.   At 17 volts, was about the lowest I could do.    I couldn't weld 1/8 plate verticle up either w/o making a mess.            Theres no question in my mind, the intervec 350 is better in the type of welding I described.
Reply:I have a 304 of my own, and used the V350 in school. The Lincoln is an awesome machine, it gets my nod.But neither one will do AC tig.2 machines will cover a lot, a multi-process and a dedicated tig machine. Just keep shelling out the green back$. City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Originally Posted by jwolfDCEN and pure argon is used correct?
Reply:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=18934Lincoln will do pulsed spray Mig Aluminum.   Its a hoot!Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.