Only a few hundred feet like this...here a section I've patched..They are wanting to sell the house is the reason its not being replaced....yet
Reply:"I'd have taken one look at that and refused to repair anything.The whole thing should have been torn out and replaced...."it's not on him, you do what you got to. nice view from the balcony.
Reply:I hate jobs with nice views. It makes me angry that I'm working and not lounging on a boat, sipping fruity drinks. some day. . . . .Good looking repair.
Reply:Originally Posted by Mick120I'd have taken one look at that and refused to repair anything.The whole thing should have been torn out and replaced....
Reply:Originally Posted by speedfreak87Can I ask why? looks to me like the repair was done correct.
Reply:This railing's exhibiting a common mode of failure.Apparently original welding and install--was not seal tight, letting waterin with no place to go-and of course--no weep holes to let water outSalt air doesn't help one bit, either. On railings, gate, panels--it's either seal it up, or provide good drainage--somethingmost pro shops can't get their head around.Just becuz--you can't poke an awl thru the tube sides that are corroded away---doesn't mean they're not holding water and corrosion. Suggest you test drill for water/corrosion at every joint. (I've had some real wet surprises on field repairs.)The mountings may be similarly affected. As I recall, UBC requires min. of 200# force applied in any direction without deformation. Wow! No foot mounting plates to tie the intermediate verticals to the deck. Economy job.The owner wants it cheap, which has nothing to do with safe. As others have said--if any part of it fails--that's OKAY-BECUZ VINCEIS GONNA GET SUED.Blackbird
Reply:your repair looks great...but in the back of my mind i'm thinking:ahhhhh, palm trees, 2 story house, oceanfront property, too bad the current owners cant afford new railing.. what scum.. is there any codes to follow for railing? i thought there was for decks and walkways and such..tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:Originally Posted by dave powelsonThis railing's exhibiting a common mode of failure.Apparently original welding and install--was not seal tight, letting waterin with no place to go-and of course--no weep holes to let water outSalt air doesn't help one bit, either. On railings, gate, panels--it's either seal it up, or provide good drainage--somethingmost pro shops can't get their head around.Just becuz--you can't poke an awl thru the tube sides that are corroded away---doesn't mean they're not holding water and corrosion. Suggest you test drill for water/corrosion at every joint. (I've had some real wet surprises on field repairs.)The mountings may be similarly affected. As I recall, UBC requires min. of 200# force applied in any direction without deformation. Wow! No foot mounting plates to tie the intermediate verticals to the deck. Economy job.The owner wants it cheap, which has nothing to do with safe. As others have said--if any part of it fails--that's OKAY-BECUZ VINCEIS GONNA GET SUED.
Reply:Originally Posted by bruceri was thinking there were certain codes which werent applied here...i know the op is in the U.S.Virgin Islands, but he better cover his *** is all i can say.. is there also a certain spacing required for the verticals?
Reply:Great repair, (in the post below its not about your repair you did a great job)America must be totally diffrent to australia, workcover wood knock that back because a child can climb and fall through that handrail, with our handrail's or railing in australia if the raill is off the ground 1.5 mtr then the gap in the railing bars must be no bigger then 100mm.
Reply:Originally Posted by MattAmerica must be totally diffrent to australia, workcover wood knock that back because a child can climb and fall through that handrail, with our handrail's or railing in australia if the raill is off the ground 1.5 mtr then the gap in the railing bars must be no bigger then 100mm.
Reply:Originally Posted by MattGreat repair, (in the post below its not about your repair you did a great job)America must be totally diffrent to australia, workcover wood knock that back because a child can climb and fall through that handrail, with our handrail's or railing in australia if the raill is off the ground 1.5 mtr then the gap in the railing bars must be no bigger then 100mm.
Reply:On a side note over here , if the Balustrade complied at the time of construction its OK, butAs soon as person who derives his "
rimary source of income" ie a "
rofessional" in the eyes of the law touches any part , the whole is to come to code.Another thing , if the rust was so bad in that place , dont tell me the rest was fine.But there is timber under the rusty photos and Concrete under the repairs.Last edited by Brett; 07-10-2011 at 04:44 AM.A good guess is better than a bad measurement
Reply:Well I passed on these concern's to the owner.....at most I've bought her a few more years and she's ok with that.Glad the title of this thread wasn't "Rusty trailer I'm fixing"Also drilled a few weep holes
Reply:Originally Posted by IamVinceGlad the title of this thread wasn't "Rusty trailer I'm fixing"
Reply:Tear the whole thing out and replace it with some 316 SS (how it should have been done in the first place)
Reply:A few years ago I was refered by a company in atlantic city (NJ shore) to do repairs to a framework that held up the AC unit of a 12 story condo. I am usually price out under everyone and thats why I normally get the BS jobs, but this was a 40'x40' framework of 12" I-beams, 14 stories above the ground, overtop the elevator framework, that I literally stuck my pocket knife through the web of the beam. They wanted me to bring materials up through the service elevator to "temp repair" for 2-3 years when they replace the entire unit w/ new framing.I couldn't have ran fast enough when they wanted a temp repair.Down at the shore areas, aluminum or better should always be used. Even if you have 100% water tight welds, condensation will always get into hollow areas of tubing. If using steel because of strength and you can't afford stainless, fully welded joints, and blow 2 holes in each sealed tube and have it hot dipped galvanized.Once steel starts rotting at the shore, it is impossible to fix without redoing the entire job. There will always be rust parts that don't even look bad, but you will definitely be returning since you didn't do a good repair the first time.
Reply:Very good looking repair eventhough it is not code compliant. A child could fall through the spacing the risers has to be a certain distance apart. Im not sure what the requirements are but if a child could put his or her head through the spacing it would be illegal, and there would be fines or the like. Maybe it could be ok if it were a private place where no other people had access to it nevertheless it would something th think about.Good luck with it anyway it has a great view i'm gealous, wish it were mine..... by the way where is it?wbolden
Reply:According to rules not codes here in NJ (it still depends on what mood the inspector is in), if the railing was installed pre code days (not just accepted by inspector), then it is grandfathered and can be repaired to "original" condition even if it does not meet current codes. If you have to remove it, even to just sandblast, it must be reinstalled to current codes. So railings fall under the same rules as house repairs, knock 3 walls and 3 corners down, rebuild them, and then knock the last corner down and it is still only considered a repair. Still it depends on whether or not the inspector had to deal with their kids that morning.
Reply:Originally Posted by Country MetalsAccording to rules not codes here in NJ (it still depends on what mood the inspector is in), if the railing was installed pre code days (not just accepted by inspector), then it is grandfathered and can be repaired to "original" condition even if it does not meet current codes. If you have to remove it, even to just sandblast, it must be reinstalled to current codes. So railings fall under the same rules as house repairs, knock 3 walls and 3 corners down, rebuild them, and then knock the last corner down and it is still only considered a repair. Still it depends on whether or not the inspector had to deal with their kids that morning.
