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Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:25:46 GMT
Hey everyone!!So, these are the most recent things that Ive built, and Im pretty happy with the way that they turned out. They are for a local hobby farmer who claims that the forks on the TSC bought carryalls fold over like a paperclip, and so he wanted me to build something heavier. All these are from remnants from the scrap yard (I dont know who buys a 3x3x3/8" piece of angle 10' long, and returns 5' of it for pennies a pound, but Im sure glad that they do it!! lol), so I was able to make them for $150 each. They were pretty easy to make, and even came out square for a change!! Haha. The forks are 3/8" thick, and the rest is 3/16" thick. Its all 3x3 angle, heavier than the store-bought ones, with holes drilled so he can put boards on it. That drill press sure chews through metal like its its job!! lol. I really wanted to make some triangle gussets for where the forks meet the frame, but that would have interfered with the boards so I couldn't. I cut everything with my HF 4x6 bandsaw, and welded it all with the stickmate (I love that thing), with either 3/32" Hobart 7018, or the bigger 5/32" 7018, leftover from when I rebuilt that forklift in May. I finished the job with 3/4 of one of the larger 5/32 rods left. I dont know what the guys reaction will be or what he'll think, because he HASNT PICKED THEM UP YET!! I didnt make a video because he gave me a really short deadline to have them done, so I had to spend all my time working, and a week after he was supposed to get them, they're still sitting in my driveway. He doesn't show up or call when he says he will, etc. Its really frustrating. I hope Im not stuck with them, Ive made carryalls in the past to sell, and you cant hardly give the things away here. As always, constructive criticism is appreciated. Have a nice day, everyone [Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:would there have been room to do a canteleavered gusset? where the forks extend behind the verticle and the gusset goes on the back of the verticle instead of the front?There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Nice job Lanse. And, Farmall Red beats JD Green any day of the week!Eric
Reply:Very nice. I have a friend that wants me to make him something similar except with a small bed on it.
Reply:Those look very nice lanse, but I'm just a little curious why you chose to cut the threads off the lift pins and weld them on.  I would think welding on grade 8 hardware would reduce its strength and make it more prone to bending.
Reply:Heavy angle on the legs is nice, but I wonder if the thin verticals between the pins and the "forks" will go 1st. Put a weight that would not colapse the 3/8" at the end of the lever arm you have made, and it could easily overtax the thiner material used for the uprights. I'd have at least  reinforced the verticals past the pins by a few inches, say up to that cross member for example..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:great work. are the uprights 3/16 and the forks 3/8 or what? how many feet of material total did it take im confused about 10 foot of metal and takin 5ft back. Originally Posted by ThorsHammerwould there have been room to do a canteleavered gusset? where the forks extend behind the verticle and the gusset goes on the back of the verticle instead of the front?
Replyh, lance, are u the guy on youtube that made all the vids? chucke2009? and always try to get half of the money down when u do somethin custom, thats what we dp then theyll come back and get the products and ur not stuck with it.Zach WareOwnerMid-GA Outdoor & Equipment ServiceByron GA478-960-2014
Reply:At that temperature all you should have to do is sit 1 piece of steel on top of the other and it be melted together.. Too hot for workin.Miller thunderbolt 250Decastar 135ERecovering tool-o-holic ESAB OAI have been interested or involved in Electrical, Fire Alarm, Auto, Marine, Welding, Electronics ETC to name a just a few. So YES you can own too many tools.
Reply:Very nice lanse. I'm not familiar with carry-alls though I do understand the concept. The only thing I noticed was the stop/starts on the corners. I'm sure you already know, but if you don't stopping/starting on corners is considered a stress riser which is obviously more prone to failure. They look nice though. I hope your clients pays up and accepts delivery.
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerwould there have been room to do a canteleavered gusset? where the forks extend behind the verticle and the gusset goes on the back of the verticle instead of the front?
Reply:Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about a gusset just on the inside of the vertical angle. I'm talking about the forks extending behind the vertical 6+" to allow for a decent gusset. The issue with this is the clearance for what it's being mounted on.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:I agree about the strength of the uprights.   I have one (bought used, origin unknown) and that's where it failed, right on the lower hinge pin.   I beefed it up with an additional 2-1/2x2-1/2x1/4 angle.Ken
Reply:Builders use that type angle to span openings.  I have friends and family that have given me a pile of that kind of scrap, red-primer covered, perfect shape, often 8' long.  Many of the folks that build houses have no clue about the value of the steel left over from construction.I had a friend bring a 1/4"x5x8 sheet once - he had to cut it in half to get it loaded into his pickup truck!You don't normally think of scrap steel from residential construction, but a LOT of material ends up in dumpsters.Hobart LX235Victor 250 Oxy-Acetylene Rig (welding and cutting)Bobcat 773F-350, 1999, 4x4, 16' 10K# trailerOutdoor Wood Burner - 10 cords/year
Reply:Those are great, like the look of it, and handy. At first I was on the wrong page? Attached ImagesLincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:It's not a bad build for what it is.  A light duty set of forks.  Or carrier.The welds are pretty nice, and shouldn't be an issue.  A little note..........sometimes a 4 pass builtup weld gives better results than a 3 pass builtup.  More height, and uniformity.Angle iron has a bad tendancy to yield in bad ways.  It's not like tubing.  It only has limited resistance to stress in all planes.Not everything is the Eiffel Tower, this is a good project for what it is.Very often people do a builtup weld in place of gussets.  The joints at the juncture of the forks and uprights won't be much stronger due to the extra welding.  The real stress is in the design.  Gussets would have been nice.  Although gussets would have just moved the moment further out on the forks, the angle iron is still inherantly weak.I see the weakness in the uprights as others have mentioned.  Not much can be done about it, given the material.  But, then again, it's a light duty piece of equipment.  There's a lot of this stuff out there, and it works well if not overloaded."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Replyanse:Nice job on the carryalls. They are handy and tough when used correctly. The pins look like they are CAT 1.Just a note that you definitely aren't in Texas, your thermometer only goes up to 140 degrees..........Cheers.Sign on East Texas payphone: Calls to God 40 cents......it's a local call...
Reply:[QUOTE=Lanse;540757]Hey everyone!!I dont know what the guys reaction will be or what he'll think, because he HASNT PICKED THEM UP YET!! I didnt make a video because he gave me a really short deadline to have them done, so I had to spend all my time working, and a week after he was supposed to get them, they're still sitting in my driveway. He doesn't show up or call when he says he will, etc. Its really frustrating. I hope Im not stuck with them, Ive made carryalls in the past to sell, and you cant hardly give the things away here. Did the guy ever come and get them? That point was never made in this post. Just wondering if you were stuck with them and had to re-use the material for another project. Hope you were able to get your money out of this job, even if it wasn't from the original customer.
Reply:Yes, he eventually came and got them. It took forever tho, I remember that I waited around for a while and then tried putting them up on the local craigslist and a few other places, and they never generated any interest. But then, just as randomly as he fell off the face of the earth, he re-surfaced lol. He got them and paid in full, I was really happy about that.Since then, anything is atleast 50% down. lol. I was really surprised when this thread surfaced again, I didnt expect that lol. Since all this, Ive made a couple more to sell (without a buyer in mind) and have sold all but one. Also, Ive bought a plasma cutter and dont weld on half pins anymore haha. I have also learned about the awesomeness of gussets, and put them on the next batch...Most recent ones:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=96561[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Hey Lanse nice build. I also Run a shop just like you and here is what i tell all my customers. pay 50% up front get every thing in writing  so that they cant go back on there word.  And if they take a while to pick it up and a storage fee. also say to them you have whiten a X amount of time to pick it up  or is will be sold off or cut up for other projects. hope this info helpsMillermatic 211 with mvp plugs miller titanium series welding helmetstihl chain saws 8 ft welding table
Reply:Thanks Stihl!! I guess he liked them, I told him if anything ever happened to them, call me. This was like 9 months ago and I never heard a thing, so if they were going to fail, they would have by now. No news is good news i guess Im gonna make a sign that says what you said, thats a good policy.[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Originally Posted by LanseThanks Stihl!! I guess he liked them, I told him if anything ever happened to them, call me. This was like 9 months ago and I never heard a thing, so if they were going to fail, they would have by now.The only thing I see that I would change is to rotate the horizontal legs 90 deg to the outside.  That would give the vertical angle more support where it is welded to the horizontal angle.  Did I explain that right?Russell

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