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I tried looking for an answer to my question in the search engine, but couldn't find any relevant information.  I apologize in advance if there is already a thread that goes over this.  (I have a really reserved personality with a permanent case of anxiety and the habit of over-analyzing everything, so bear with me for a moment or you can always skip to the bottom and read the summary of the questions.)  Some background:Right now I'm the only girl enrolled in a beginner's welding program (approximately 9 months, 30 hours per week) at my local vocational college.  I know it's highly probable that my school environment is going to be different from actually being out in the field/shop/whatever, but it's already got me questioning about how I should conduct myself in relation to the guys.  The guys in my class pretty much keep to themselves and don't even make eye contact with me, like I'm not there.  It's so weird for me to see how unapproachable they are because growing up nearly all of my friends were guys and I really miss having platonic cross-sex friendships.  Although being ignored is virtually better than being directly demeaned, I am really hoping to build some friendships because then I'd have a support network of people more experienced than me to rely on as well as making school more enjoyable in general.  What is causing me to hesitate is that I'm married and so I'm very conscious of the risk of a cross-sex friendship going wrong (such as feelings being hurt, rumors spread that I'm sleeping with who I'm friends with, friend trying to break up my relationship, husband suspicious of cheating that turns into nasty self-defense arguments, etc).  I don't know whether it's really appropriate for me to try to be buddies with guys or to keep my distance and remain polite to them instead. The second thing I'm unsure about is the conundrum of self-presentation.  I want to be respected and I understand a large factor of that will come from demonstrating skill, determination, and hard work however that's not all that would garner respect.  My head is arguing with me that if I act and dress too feminine, I won't be taken seriously - Wow princess.  This is dirty work.  What the hell are you doing here wearing makeup? and that if I act too masculine, I'll be considered an-ill tempered bitch. Freaking man-hating **** I'm unsure of where to balance in between those two. Any tips, personal experiences, observations, or thoughts from you fine guys and gals?  Too Long, Didn't Read: 1. Should a welder make close friends with an opposite-gender welder?2. How should a female welder present herself professionally - more feminine or more masculine in attitude and appearance?
Reply:The way I see it is you dress, act, weld like a weldor. Period. Work friendship is just that. Most people don't bring thier work home with them, and that includes thier coworkers.I would come in dirtier than the rest. And get right to work. Your work will do the talking for you. I have a lady weldor and she can weld circles around most. Right now she is out on maternity leave, due back in April. Good Luck, and if you like the trade go for it.Last edited by shovelon; 03-28-2014 at 02:15 AM.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:With politics in the work place, most men will shy away from you. I know I would at work. Until you prove why you are learning to weld,  how serious you are about it and how well you can weld, most guys won't give you the time of day. Too many women have gone before you and set a bad example. Pull the princess card, flirt to get by, kiss azz and other parts...... .If you're serious about welding, go in every day with a smile, good attitude, get dirty and learn something.  Don't try to be one of the guys. You're not. Period. Be real.  Period. Stand up for yourself. Use talent and smarts to get ahead.  Nothing can be taken away from you by doing that. Sent from my SGH-M919 using TapatalkLong after the price is forgotten, the quality will remain.Both of my Poppy's 1954 Short Hoods -Third generation to weld with it and teaching a fourthSA 2## - Bought and sold more than I can remember or care to list, 8 in the shop right now
ReplyHow should I conduct myself (female) in relation to my male coworkers?earn to throw a weld. A serious, mean,insane looking weld.Toss it on the bench and walk away.Men are idiots. I know this from experienceBubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:With politics in the work place, most men will shy away from you.
Reply:not sure of atmosphere at school, but if im working with someone new, (im also a bit stuck in my own head), and decide we need to get along and talk a little bit, ill throw out a good"man, oh, man, that beer is gunna taste good tonight. . . " 99.9% of the time the guy will start talking his head off about how hes either an alcoholic, or doesn't drink anymore because he was an alcoholic and quit. its funny, but its not, but seriously, if you want to make small, on-clock friends, bring up alcohol. I think its cool that you are wanting to excel in this trade, but honestly I wouldn't know what to do with you either. any type of construction work for guys comes with a BUNCH of sexual harassment training. I ran into a women on a job (rare occasion) a couple weeks ago and was scared of her! it wasn't that I was thinking anything that you are implying men think in construction, but I was doing my best to follow procedure and not get fired! I don't think I got anything more than a "good morning" out to her, whereas I was able to hold an entire conversation with a man that spoke a completely different language because I haven't been conditioned to be scared of working with guys.bottom line. don't think anything weird about guys not talking to you much, they are just trying to be professional. trust me, its not  anything against you, its just not what they expected to see in a welding class and they are just trying to keep everything strait and without consequence. if you really want to break the ice, call one of them out on their welds, but do it with a smilebosses stuff:trailblazer 325maxstar 200my stuff:sa 200fronius transpocket 180100 amp Lincoln w/f97 f350 DITKevin
Reply:Be yourself don't try to act like man, your a woman we are totally different. Most guys are intimidated by you especially if your attractive. Go to work lay down some sick beads and leave it at that. :-)
Reply:You're there to learn welding.Remember that.Not there to:-Impress others-Make friends-Care about others' opinions of you-Start or finish dramaBe polite. Be respectful.  Walk away when needed.WELD.WELD SOME MORE.Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller Spectrum 250DMiller Millermatic 200Bunch of old blue dinosaurs....
Reply:You're obviously an intelligent person, and I think you're only asking this question because you're over-analyzing it (I'm the same).The easiest answer is to be yourself, and dress appropriately for the job. Same as any trade, if you're doing your job and following the rules then you're golden. Some people will like you, some may not, same thing for everybody. Some guys may be a little more cautious at first, as the chances are it's less common for them to see a female on their crew, but it'll pass.If you say a lot of your old friends were guys then the chances are that a lot of your new ones will be too Just crack on and be yourself, as time passes you will feel more at ease. Best of luck
Reply:I already solved the problem. Put out a mean ascz weld. Toss it on the bench,smile and walk away.Shake dat booty a bit.Google : Shirley Muldowney.Big Daddy. You and your ego step aside and watch this ! Begin to understand.Lemme helpLast edited by Burpee; 03-28-2014 at 07:16 AM.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
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Reply:I consider these type of issues to be non issues.Respect yourself and others.Present yourself as who you are, not who you think coworkers want you to be.Maintain your identity/femininity - never be fake butch.Dress for the job, not to be sexy, not to prove anything in particular.Don't worry about making friends on purpose - it happens or it doesn't.Eventually in any job, people are just workers, not male/female workers.Bottom line, be a professional.Where I teach, (in a rugged poverty, drug/alcohol abuse filled area), some of the students call me Mr. Professional as a nickname instead of Mr. Johnson - and they asked permission to do it.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Behaviors in a shop vary.  Just remember that you are observing the male animal in his environment.  This is an advantage for a smart female.  She can quickly tell when BS is in the air while the normal female has difficulty detecting.  I noticed that after working for 8 months and going to school for two years in male dominated classes, my daughter easily selected a quality life partner that is a keeper.   As most people mentioned just keep your head down working.  You are not there to socialize and hug people.  Most males will blow off steam ranting at you or someone else then the whole thing is forgotten at lunch time.  Don't take conflicts as personal.  From my observations guys will keep away to not offend, try to impress and date the female, or play the father figure.  I have seen female basically protected by old guys simply because they see her as their daughter.  Best NOT to socialize.  A workplace is like a small town.  Jump in the sack with someone and everyone knows the next day.  My daughter saw that happen to a female co-worker in a community of around 600 people up North.
Reply:I always told my daughters, one to two men are gentlemen. Three or more men, are a pack of wolfs.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
ReplyHow should I conduct myself (female) in relation to my male coworkers?ike I told my daughters, your not there to make friends!Be nice but be serious. If you are good at the classroom and lab workyou will find out right quick which of the guys in class are worth being friends with.
Reply:I didn't expect to see so many replies show up overnight.  That is some good ****ing advice!Thank you all for telling it to me straight.  I really appreciate hearing other people's perspectives.  I'll keep doing what I'm doing and keep my focus on my bloody bead.
Reply:My thoughts are a lot of what is mentioned above.... Follow that and you will do very well. There was a lady in school same time as me, she could out weld all of us with out trying... keep at it don't give up TOOLS AND TOYSSMAW Mid States Inc. "MISSING LINK" 10-150 AMP Buzzer circa 1945ishSMAW Magic Wand 40-60 AMP Suitcase Buzzer circa 1939ishGMAW Hobart 210 IronmanOxy-Propane TorchMany other old and cold goodies"Rusty but Trusty"
Reply:The only thing I can add is you may want to have pretty thick skin or have selective hearing. I work with one woman and any where from 2 to 10 guys. When the woman is out conversations can sometimes make a grown man blush.
Reply:Stay focused on your goal of learning to weld. Whether you have plans to make welding a vocation, artisan pursuit, or a hobby......does not really matter while you are in school.  While in school, try to be a sponge at absorbing knowledge about welding craft.If you stay focused on preparing yourself for whatever your plans are after graduation, people with like minded goals may wish to be friends.  If not, it does not really matter, the main idea of conduct should be to treat people with courtesy and expect courtesy in return.  If you and other students somehow find common ground interests that draw friendship, so much the better, but don't think think of school as a social club or mix fest.  It is basically the place to learn a craft/vocation.Good luck.
Reply:Well Rayne', welcome to the forum.Lots of applicable advise here.What are your goals when you finish school?On a different but similar subject, I made the acquaintance of a black weldor recently, who works in a shop (I'm in field construction).  Long story short, he told me of how one day he showed up to work to see a noose hanging from the rafters, and being asked by one of "the boys", "what do you think of that?".  True story, 2010; not 1910.  Not in the Deep South.I won't tell you how it ended, but i see two scenarios with very different outcomes.I also know of a trans-gender inspector.  She was harassed in a bad way by a redi-mix driver. Again, two very different possible outcomes.My mom was a brakeman for UPRR, in fact she was the second female brakeman out of Cheyenne.  Rough, very rough times.I know of female apprentices that traded sexual favors for acceptance.  They aren't around anymore.The road's been paved for you, but it still isn't easy. Don't compromise your morals, don't lower your standards, and don't try to be everybody's friend.  Only you know the answer if your marriage is strong enough for you to have opposite sex friendships, and to what degree.But to answer your one question about your "feminism" and respect from male workers, I feel once you're graduated, you'll be fine....as long as you chew and spit Just kidding, I had several girlfriends that chewed.  Maybe that's what attracted me to them Lincoln SA 200Esab Caddy 160Thermal Arc 201TSMiller Dialarc HFI don't like making plans for the day because then the word "premeditated" gets thrown around the courtroom....
Reply:be prepared for some practical jokes,  (not that your female, but because nubees usually have a few thrown at them)I was on a construction site and some one decided to grease my hard hat one morning, (two or three globs of grease in the head band area,)  keeps your hair nice for weeks,   you just have to grin and smile, it happens to all of us,
Reply:Originally Posted by Farmerboybe prepared for some practical jokes,  (not that your female, but because nubees usually have a few thrown at them)I was on a construction site and some one decided to grease my hard hat one morning, (two or three globs of grease in the head band area,)  keeps your hair nice for weeks,   you just have to grin and smile, it happens to all of us,
Reply:Hello and welcome. Many years ago I had one of the first female apprentice pipefitters. She was 21, and wanted to do her job. Sadly, this particular was was not a job for a small women. We were just gettin the job setup so lots of bull work. Her 110 pound frame just wasn't gonna make it not to mention I was concerned for her safety. She was not shy and did what she could. After a couple of days I sent her to a job where we had control work; running poly tube, copper tube, and mounting panels etc. It was a little less demanding and she felt more comfortable. She later became a great control person.  So, find your strong point and YOU WILL EXCEL. Do whatever you are asked to do the best you can do. It doesn't matter who or what you are. If you can make the employer money, you will have a job. Good luck and stay POSITIVE!
Reply:Jon nailed it. You aint at work to make friends and impress/talk to co-workers. If you want that, open a hair salon.  Since you havent chosen that field, go in, do what you are told every day, and get your paycheck every two weeks. Socialize with family and friends, not co-workers.No one is going to want to deal with you. You are entering a mans world, and some will resent you for it. Suck it up, princess, and realize everyone is tripping over their tongue and watching out for you over their shoulder, worrying about their job should you overhear some of their 'guy talk' and file a sexual harassment complaint.  You'll deal with it your whole career. Pick your battles. You will have to fight some of the old sexist (expletives) who don't want you there and try to drive you out.In the end, you earn the respect you get, and you will earn it with A: good welding B: good productivity.Do not try to be one of the guys - you aren't, and I doubt they will ever let you. In the same token, don't be the bimbo who plays everyone along - they will lose respect for you. Just be you, and focus on the job. Don't be pushed around by sexists and misogynists.Being female does give you some advantages there - don't abuse it though.In the end, when push comes to shove, you do have a major advantage - again, you are female, and every company wants the diversity you can offer, because the federal government DOES track such things.  I know this because companies love hiring me to show the government they hire the disabled (I'm deaf)Your welds will get you hired, and keep you employed, especially if it comes down to you and some misogynist causing you problems.Last edited by Daeyel; 03-29-2014 at 10:59 AM.MillerMatic 252Miller Xtreme 625Miller Digital EliteI think females on a construction site can be a distraction. Especially if they are pretty.  I talked to a Marine last week. He said that women are being allowed onto battlfields or something. He said that there is a big psychological difference between men and women when stepping over a dead body. Maybee Im not much help either but, if you make it thru school then ; good luck to you.
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Reply:I used to be a firefighter (volunteer) and paramedic (career/IAFF union member) back in the days when women first started breaking into the field. I can tell you that you have a lot of good advice here: dress appropriately, act professionally, etc. I can't argue with any of that. If you are in an environment where women are not yet common place (like the fire department was 25-30 years ago), then I can add some additional advice:1. Don't ever dress provactively (i.e., you can be feminine, but no cleavage), don't flirt, don't make sexual inendo, even if the guys do, and NEVER ever date anyone from work. In fact, if you go out after work, make sure you are with a group of guys and not just one guy. If you don't follow this advice, you will get an unearned reputation as a tramp. Its not fair, but it will happen. There are always 1-2 bad apples that will make up some **** about you if you are not careful. Once that happens, it is hard to shake. AND once that happens, the same bad apples will make a stink everytime you get a promotion, plum assignment, etc. 2. You need to shrug off any guy talk or off color humor. You don't want to get the reputation of being the delicate flower that always runs to HR. Be one of the guys without violating rule #1. If you are truly being harrassed that is a differnet story. But don't be the woman making a stink over a pinup in a locker or something like that. 3. Don't be a complainer or a whiner. Be the person who can get the job done. You earn respect by having the skills, by not being a problem child and by fitting in to a certain extent. It was tough on the first woman in the fire company. But she violated all of these rules. After her though, all of the the tough, professional women who could do the job were respected. The ones who couldn't fit in were never respected. Just my 2 cents, and YMMVMiller Multimatic 255

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