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Hey guys,  I really don t want to beat a dead horse but I narrowed down my choice between two plasma cutters.  Hypertherm powermax45 and the Thermal dynamics cutmaster 52.  I can get the cutmaster 52 a little cheaper but I don t mind paying more if the majority thinks the hypertherm is a better unit.  Let me know what you think.................  thanks RichLincoln 255XT Power Mig                                                                    Lincoln Precision Tig 225Hypertherm Powermax 30
Reply:id wait to see how much the miller 625 x-treme is its 23 lbs with a 20ft touch rated at 5/8" and up to 7/8"
Reply:Cutmaster 52 is a reliable machine
Reply:The Powermax will outperform the Cutmaster in speed, thickness....and most importantly...consumable life. It has a quick change torch (no tools)....is very light and portable....and also can use Hypertherm's patented "FineCut" consumables that produce finer kerf and better quality when cutting thin materials. Hypertherm is well known for their quality products and support....check them out at www.hypertherm.com Jim
Reply:Hi Rwells173,Been awhile since I posted message to you. I hope you got your problem resolved?If you really want to see what a PowerMax 45 looks like and what it will do go to the Other Manufacturers section of this site. There are several posts that you'll want to read and see the actual performance.Look for the following posts on pages 1 & 2 :Hypertherm PowerMax 45 vs 1.25"Hypertherm Question for Jim Colt - Fine Cut ConsumablesHypertherm PowerMax 45 vs Miller 2050You'll see I did performance test of my new PowerMax 45 where I took it 50% above max. Take a look at the  cut quality on that 1.25" cut. I even did a cut for cut comparison with a 80 amp Plasma cutter! The hypertherm won hands down on performance and cut quality.Before I bought my PowerMax 45 my other choice was the same as yours Yep I also considered the Thermal Dynamics CutMaster 52. I went to our local AirGas supplier where they have all they equipment they sell setup on display and actual demonstration. I got to use both of my choices and feature for feature and cut qualiity comparisons I choose the Hypertherm. Ps and I did not buy from airgas because I had already internet price searched both for the best price. Airgas could not beat the online price. Which ever plasma Cutter you choose I wish you the best of luck,Tomand oh yeah a disclaimer : I do not work for Hypertherm or Thermal Dynamics. No am I endorsed for this post. So there )~Last edited by specter; 01-16-2009 at 01:14 PM.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:Thanks for all of the reponses.  I was going to buy the thermal dynamics unit because i could have gotten a really good deal on one.  The good deal has passed me by.  I think I will be purchasing a hypertherm. I am sure they are both great units.... thanks again RichLincoln 255XT Power Mig                                                                    Lincoln Precision Tig 225Hypertherm Powermax 30
Reply:Be sure to look at  consumable costs. Might not be a biggy issue for you.. It is for me.  My friend just bought a cutmaster 39 an has just finished cutting up around 75 sheets of steel.  Very agile torch design.  To throw a wrench in the works,  I would offer this site here: http://www.usaweld.com/products/plas...ters/index.htmI use an identical plasma cutter to their 40 amp although mine is only 30 amp. Prices are comparable.  The portablity is awesome and the consumable prices are through the floor.  Additionally they have excellent tech support and generous customer satisfaction policy.If you do buy hypertherm or thermodyne,  you can get the best prices from HTP as well.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Replyugweld,  I will definetly look into it.........thanksLincoln 255XT Power Mig                                                                    Lincoln Precision Tig 225Hypertherm Powermax 30
Reply:I was given a hypertherm HT-40-C  that I believe was used for a cnc set up.... It has no torch or torch cable.  I was wondering if it was possible to get an after market hand torch and cable and ' Make it Go !"   this would have to be a low budget project....   finished project CAN"T go over $ 300.00   on the other hand I might be willing to sell the unit  have if the torch is too expensive.  make offer if you want...no shipping  i am in South jersey  and travel blue routr to NE PA ( Pocono0 area ) and could deliver along that route  I can send photos if you wish it appears to be in good condition, but used... I watch this thread for replies or E-mail me directly through PM's or at    [email protected] LS 160 P tig/Plasma comboLincoln AC/DC 225 TombstoneMiller 170 Mig (shared with neighbor)"Life is like Ice cream...Enjoy it or it melts away" joebiplane
Reply:Hi ya Joebiplane have you looked on the hypertherm site to see what torch goes with that cutter.  once you have the torch number and/or part number it will be a simple matter to type a keyword search for eithher the torch or part number. In addition the supplier might be able to cross referrence the torch to see if its interchangeable with another make/brand.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.&  2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:The HT40c is a high frequency start 40 Amp (chopper based, not inverter) plasma system. It was never sold with a hand torch as it was specifically designed for use on cnc cutting machines for the HVAC (ductwork) market. You can put either a Hypertherm Max40 or Max100  hand torch on that machine. It will not work with a blowback style torch (non high frequaency start).Jim colt
Reply:Thanks fellows...iwilllook for the torchjowLongevity LS 160 P tig/Plasma comboLincoln AC/DC 225 TombstoneMiller 170 Mig (shared with neighbor)"Life is like Ice cream...Enjoy it or it melts away" joebiplane
Reply:If I got a new plasma cutter today, I think it would be the Powermax 45.  That seems to be the best value for the money out right now in that class of machine.   I did see a deal on Powermax 30's for $995 recently though that looked very tempting.  Either the 45 or the 30 would be great for mobile work.   The Miller 375 XTreme and new 625 XTreme are great too, but the Hypertherms are usually a hundred or two less for basicaly the same machine and torch.   Miller and Hypertherm seem to diverging a little now though, as the Powermax 45 doesn't seem to have a Miller counterpart and the new Miller 625 XTreme and 875 don't appear to have Hypertherm counterparts either.  The Powermax 45 appears to be right in between the 625XT and the 875 in power/capability but about the same as the 625XT on price.   It goes for about $1600.   For the same money, I'd rather have the 45 than the 625.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:I'm also considering the Cutmaster 52 or Hypertherm 45. I need a machine that will do 30Amps on 1ph 230V 25Amps 50Hz, and the full output on 3x400V 20Amps. (No budget to buy 2 machines right now) Anyone know how to solve this with Hypertherm? "Cutmaster 12mm" is specifically for Europe, and does not allow 1ph operation because of CE legislation. I could import a CM52 from the US however and use it in both situations.
Reply:Originally Posted by jimcolt... It has a quick change torch (no tools)... Jim
Reply:If you need a system that will operate on both 3 phase, 50Hz as well as single phase 50Hz, then the Powermax1000 would be the best choice for your needs. The Powermax45 cannot be configured to operate at all of the input voltages that you desire....te Powermax1000 will.Jim Colt    Hypertherm Originally Posted by EuropeCutI'm also considering the Cutmaster 52 or Hypertherm 45. I need a machine that will do 30Amps on 1ph 230V 25Amps 50Hz, and the full output on 3x400V 20Amps. (No budget to buy 2 machines right now) Anyone know how to solve this with Hypertherm? "Cutmaster 12mm" is specifically for Europe, and does not allow 1ph operation because of CE legislation. I could import a CM52 from the US however and use it in both situations.
Reply:We design our systems based on customer surveys as well as many years of field visits to see how end users utilize their equipment. While I think the removeable work lead (not ground lead!) is a good idea.....we have recieved very few requests for this. Making it removeable adds cost.....and in the air plasma system market...there is a ton of competition, and one of the highest decision making factors in this market is price!I agree with you on the type of wire used on the smaller Hypertherm systems (the work lead wire on the Powermax30 and Powermax45) is kind of stiff...especially if it is used in cold weather.It would be easy to put a quick disconnect or cam-lock style connector (rated for the correct voltage and amperage) on a unit in the field, as well as replacing the ground lead with a more flexible multistranded welding wire..Jim Originally Posted by frieedHey Jim,Why didn't you guys make the ground lead removable as well?Also, make it out of a nice flexible light gauge welding lead instead of they fairly stiff one on it that appears to be thhn wire.
Reply:Thanks Jim,I kinda knew the answer but asked anyway...Since I have my stick, mig, and plasma all on the same cart I'm thinking of making a common work lead for all three to cut down on the cable clutter a bit...that would take care of the stiffness issue for the PM-45 as well.EricMillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:Thanks for your reply Jim! Another idea: Would the PM 45 230V single phase run on rectified mains? My 3x400V also has a neutral, so 3x230V as well. (11kW) I could rectify this, and have a 320VDC with very little ripple due to the 120deg phase shift between the lines. The two main risks I see are: -- PFC inside the PM45 will not like DC input-- Only half of the internal rectifier diodes are used with DC INPUT. They may overheat.
Reply:The Powermax45 is designed for 50 hz (or 60 hz) AC input only. It is not recommended to operate it on other frequencies or on DC power.Jim Colt
Reply:I like the cutmaster series mostly because of the availability of the torch parts and consumables. With the miller unless you have a well stocked LWS you might find your self waiting a few days to finish a project.