Anyone know anything about Lincoln's new 210 Amp multiprocess machine?

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Lincoln announced it yesterday I think.Anyone know anything about it? Price, features etc? Edit: Looked at the video again and it's $999 recommended price, available in October.It does look very similar to the euro model called Lincoln Speedtec 200C.http://lincolnelectric.com/en-us/equ...ig-210-mp.aspxLast edited by Pete.S.; 09-23-2014 at 09:17 PM.
Reply:This is the specs for the euro version, Lincoln Speedtec 200C.It might be some indication of what the 210 MP will actually  be.Speedtec® 200C: CV MIG, CV Synergic, FCAW, Stick, TIG Lift.CV MIG: Infinitely Variable Control of voltage, Wire Feed Speed and InductanceStick: Hot Start and Arc Force ControlTIG: Lift TIG PFC power factor correction allowing up to 300 ft primary extension cables and generator compatability.Works perfectly with 100% CO2.Primary voltage: 230V 1Ph. Ieff=14.7A, Imax=27A.   (The Powermig 210MP is dual voltage)Dimensions: 15 1/2" x 9 3/4" x 20 3/4"Weight:  38 lbs.Welding output: 200A @ 25%, 57Vdc OCVMIG: 20-200A/24V dcStick: 20-160A/26,4V dc Tig: 20-160A/16,4V dcWFS range: 40-600 ipmSolid wire: 0.023-0.040"Alu wire: 0.040"Cored wires: 0.035-0.045"Last edited by Pete.S.; 09-23-2014 at 09:22 PM.
Reply:I just watched the video tonight and went to the website and was disappointed to see a picture but no specifications. Looks like Miller has some competition to the Multimatic 200, the price is definately a factor. Also the big difference in duty cycle amperage.I wonder if they are going to re-design the entire power mig line?Last edited by Chris T.; 09-23-2014 at 10:01 PM.TOO MANY TOOLS & NO MORE SPACE
Reply:Saw this today. Insane price!Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Someone I met off craigslist like 4 years ago was telling me about lincoln creating a multipurpose machine but didn't know when it was coming out, I always thought the guy was blowing smoke. The price and machine look very impressive, Off to go sell my miller 211 on craigslist
Reply:What? It doesn't have a built in plasma cutter? GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Replyains me to see this after not even having my 210mvp for a year.
Reply:Wow!Sounds like a sweet machine!
Reply:Their giving them away at $999!!I'll buy one if their for real!!
Reply:Originally Posted by Chris T.I wonder if they are going to re-design the entire power mig line?
Replyincoln says the Power MIG 210MP duty cycle is:MIG/Flux-Cored: 200A at 25%TIG: 175A at 30%Stick: 175A at 25%(better than Miller multimatic 200, 150A @ 20%)It's also spool gun ready.Option for TIG foot pedal. TIG is DC only.They posted it on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/LincolnElectricLast edited by Pete.S.; 09-24-2014 at 09:45 AM.
Reply:I wonder why they did't use the euro connector for the MIG gun? That makes it super easy to remove and you could have different lengths or liners for different jobs, like stainless. This is what the euro version of Powermig 210MP looks like - the Lincoln Speedtec 200C.
Reply:I'm buying one for sure. I'll just have to get an old school 250A ac/dc tig for aluminum. Looks sweet! Glad I didnt buy the 211 autoset after all.'95 ESAB Migmaster 250Everlast 160STH
Reply:Interesting.  Looks like it's positioned somewhere between the TWECO/TA 181i and the 211i  spec-wise and price-wise."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Who wants to buy my Tweco MTS? LolTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by Pete.S.Here in Europe the older smaller transformer machines like power mig 180C have been discontinued after Lincoln introduced the small inverter multiprocess machines and stock was sold out. The multiprocess machines are sold here for basically the same price as the older transformer ones were. Cheap hobby transformer mig/flux core only machines are still around though and so are the larger format transformers as well.It makes sense for Lincoln to discontinue the older transformer units when they can make a better inverter machine for basically the same price. So eventually all transformer machines will disappear.
Reply:Is this the one they are building in Japan or Indiawww.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by OldendumInteresting.  Looks like it's positioned somewhere between the TWECO/TA 181i and the 211i  spec-wise and price-wise.
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416Is this the one they are building in Japan or India
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammHate to see the old transformer machines give way to this new stuff.  Just means more money, and more headaches getting them repaired.I don't have any multi process stuff, and really don't need it, so maybe I'm just being old fashioned
Reply:Riland from China has had a welder that looks very similar to this for a while now.  They could be related...especially since their brand new website has mysteriously disappeared in the last few days.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Sunuvabich... I just bought a Multimatic 200 with the Spoolmate and TIG kit.
Reply:Originally Posted by W123BenzSunuvabich... I just bought a Multimatic 200 with the Spoolmate and TIG kit.
Reply:As a newbie here I WAS in the market for a dual voltage Mig and was about to throw about $800 or so at a Hobart 210.  Looks like I should wait a bit.
Reply:When will this machine be out to the public ? Will be waiting for real world user review.  Seems cheap for what you are getting.I just ordered one and its coming in next week, Just kidding !!!I asked my LWS about it and they know nothing but at $999 ITW is going to have a poor quarterly report on the multimatics, handlers and millermatics. I will be saving up for the 210 mp Good news , My Syncrowave 210 AC frequency expansion came in today but since I am dirt poor I won't be able to pick it up until next Friday
Replyooks like a winner for Lincoln. Probably snatch a good chunk of new business from Thermal Arc.. ouch!
Replyooks like Miller has killed some of their small migs. Going the same way as the new Lincoln. Not the 211 but other ones..(This Oct) Got to remember Thermal-arc started this whole thing.. I would not worry too much about Thermal-arc, because they are Victor now..  One thing having owned top of the line Lincoln Inverters. Victor will probably still weld nicer if you prefer the arc type they bring to the table. Most people buying them won't notice though..Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:I should probably just sell my hobart 210 before this comes out. God knows the price will probably drop once any informed buyer sees Lincoln's...
Reply:Originally Posted by BrooklynBravestI should probably just sell my hobart 210 before this comes out. God knows the price will probably drop once any informed buyer sees Lincoln's...
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XLooks like Miller has killed some of their small migs. Going the same way as the new Lincoln. Not the 211 but other ones..(This Oct) Got to remember Thermal-arc started this whole thing.. I would not worry too much about Thermal-arc, because they are Victor now..  One thing having owned top of the line Lincoln Inverters. Victor will probably still weld nicer if you prefer the arc type they bring to the table. Most people buying them won't notice though..
Reply:MM 190:  http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00487"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Brand X, in Europe the euro version of the Powermig 210MP (Speedtec 200C) was pitted primarily against Kemppi and Esab's small inverter MIGs. Having checked out all of these I can honestly say that the build quality on the Lincoln is a step up over both the Kemppi and the ESAB. But the Lincoln is also a slightly larger and heavier unit.I see in your signature line that you have the ESAB Caddy C200. How would you consider the weld performance of the ESAB compared to for instance the Hobart 210 or other similar sized transformer units?
Reply:Originally Posted by DanScott,This must be one of the new Millers your mentioning.http://www.millerwelds.com/service/l...&submit=SearchAfter a little more searching here's even some more evidence.http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...ing-pkg-907613
Reply:Millermatic 141 and 190:http://www.millerwelds.com/quiz/pdf/...ic-141-190.pdf"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:The Arc performance is excellent, I prefer it to the Hobart but the main reason is the 25 pound weight of the Esab. That is why the Kemmpi and Esab are built that way.To keep the weight down to the MIN.. I am not a big fan of what Lincoln does with there inverter arcs. This one might be different, then the other inverters they built. They work good, just never hit the mark for me. The Lincoln is a nice machine from the looks, but not what I am after at this point. For others it's going to be a great unit, if it welds good. ( I'm sure it's just fine) One thing about most Esab machines, they get the arc quality right, everything else is secondary. Like Kemppi I would betSpeedtec looks like a better built unit then the new 210 model. More power-wave 300c style. (With I owned at one time) Cost had to play a role. Bet the Speedtec is not $999.00 over there..Last edited by Brand X; 09-25-2014 at 12:16 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:These will be a popular machine!I always hated how heavy mig welders were, having owned 7 of them..http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...-welder-907612
Reply:Speedtec looks like a better built unit then the new 210 model. More power-wave 300c style. (With I owned at one time) Cost had to play a role. Bet the Speedtec is not $999.00 over there..
Reply:Binzel is what Esab uses on the Caddie-mig. I just put the MB-AK-15 euro grip handle on the standard Esab gun. Makes for a real nice gun that way. Fixes the goofy neck angle. Esab was $850.00 here, so it was a good value for what you got.. for a while the 160 was $469.00 on a close out. Pretty powerful, and will match any 180 amp machine. More like 190 amps and good voltage, if you ask me.Last edited by Brand X; 09-25-2014 at 01:01 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XBinzel is what Esab uses on the Caddie-mig. I just put the MB-AK-15 euro grip handle on the standard Esab gun. Makes for a real nice gun that way. Fixes the goofy neck angle. Esab was $850.00 here, so it was a good value for what you got.. for a while the 160 was $469.00 on a close out. Pretty powerful, and will match any 180 amp machine. More like 190 amps and good voltage, if you ask me.
Reply:Originally Posted by OldendumMM 190:  http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00487
Reply:My LWS said they will have the 210MP in 2 weeks, MSRP is $999. They are setting one up as a demo and will call me when they have it set up. The 210 will also be on the Lincoln bucks back promo and you can get 100 bucks back that will bring it down to $899.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopThese will be a popular machine!I always hated how heavy mig welders were, having owned 7 of them..http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...-welder-907612
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XIt's showing 60 pounds on the 141  not good..
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XIt's showing 60 pounds on the 141  not good..
Reply:I called Miller.  65 pounds shipping weight on the 141, 50 pounds on the 190.  The 141 is not an inverter, the 190 is."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:I put my Esab on the bathroom scale and came up with 25 pounds. No wire, but complete otherwise.I had a original MM-130, and it was 72 pounds, with about the third the power. (Just going by at the ropey weld beads) Last edited by Brand X; 09-25-2014 at 02:36 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XI put my Esab on the bathroom scale and came up with 25 pounds. No wire, but complete otherwise.I had a original MM-130, and it was 72 pounds, with about the third the power. (Just going by at the ropey weld beads)
Reply:Is that going to take bigger than spoolgun size filler? Last edited by shovelon; 09-25-2014 at 03:42 PM.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Everything else in its class takes at least an 8 inch(10 pound) spool.