Everlast 210 STL vs Tiganium 225 stick

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Hi all,I’m looking to get a small welder to do some little projects and maybe hobby fabrication some day. My first project will to be to install a bracket in my truck for suspension limiting straps. Maybe 8” total welding on a suspension component what I’d estimate is 1/8 or 3/32 steel. I’m thinking I’ll stick weld it so I don’t need to buy gas. I have 240v 50amp power. The main options I’m seeing for a good portable stick welder is the titanium 225 stick from harbor freight and the everlast 210 stl. - The everlast is about $100 more expensive ($400 vs $300)- The everlast has more adjustability/features like adjustable arc force and hot start- The everlast has a better warranty, tho I don’t usually break my tools due to moderate use and taking care of them- The everlast has a bit better duty cycle- The Titanium has higher max ampsThey both claim to run 6010 which I might want some day. Idk how well they actually do so. I read one complaint on the everlast that 6010 didn’t run so well. On the titanium most complaints about 6010 were from people trying to use 110 power. Thoughts? Which welder should I get?
Reply:That's rough to answer, I would probably jump on the everlast for the extra features, the ability to run 6010 is a non issue for the average user, 6011 is basically the same rod, only with a modified flux to allow it to run on AC,  they're both a cellulose flux rod. The Titanium welders seem to be well liked by users too, so totally your choice, either will probably do well for you. I can say this not having experience with either.NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINELET'S GO BRANDON!"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Reply:I don't know if this will help or not. Harbor Freight gave me the Titanium for evaluation and review. Since I have not done stick since the 70s I had an acquaintance put it to work and he found the 110volt side was very lacking except for 1/16" electrodes. On the 230 volt side he said was acceptable. We filled out the review and I gave him the machine in return. However the Vulcan Commander he tried outwelded it hands down. But then it is a true transformer beast. I don't think he uses the Titanium anymore. The Harbor Freight you can return if it does not float your boat right away. Lincoln Tombstone AC/DC is the same type as the Commander and has a better warranty. The Everlast is just drama, and mail order mayhem if it ever breaks.Last edited by shovelon; 11 Hours Ago at 04:17 PM.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR"

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Originally Posted by pontoon

Hi all,I’m looking to get a small welder to do some little projects and maybe hobby fabrication some day. My first project will to be to install a bracket in my truck for suspension limiting straps. Maybe 8” total welding on a suspension component what I’d estimate is 1/8 or 3/32 steel. I’m thinking I’ll stick weld it so I don’t need to buy gas. I have 240v 50amp power. The main options I’m seeing for a good portable stick welder is the titanium 225 stick from harbor freight and the everlast 210 stl. - The everlast is about $100 more expensive ($400 vs $300)- The everlast has more adjustability/features like adjustable arc force and hot start- The everlast has a better warranty, tho I don’t usually break my tools due to moderate use and taking care of them- The everlast has a bit better duty cycle- The Titanium has higher max ampsThey both claim to run 6010 which I might want some day. Idk how well they actually do so. I read one complaint on the everlast that 6010 didn’t run so well. On the titanium most complaints about 6010 were from people trying to use 110 power. Thoughts? Which welder should I get?
Reply:I wouldn't go so far as to say the Everlast warranty is better.  My first Everlast had an issue develop within the first couple of weeks.  It took something like 55 e-mails, multiple phone calls and a number of parts sent to me before they finally offered a replacement or full purchase price credit towards an upgrade.  I only got that after spending two months with a broken machine while I replaced parts they sent me (half of them wrong).  I finally wound up on the phone with Oleg, the owner, and he offered me the replacement/return option.  It was past the first month so I had to pay to ship the bad unit back.  It was far more complicated than it needed to be.  The second machine has been fine, but I expect that when it dies it's going in the scrap pile.Check out my bench vise website:  http://mivise.comMiller Syncrowave 250DXMillermatic 350P with XR AlumaProMiller Regency 200 with 22A feeder and Spoolmatic 3Hobart Champion EliteEverlast PowerTig 210EXT
Reply:Honestly, neither. If I were buying it would be the ESAB Rogue 180i.Miller Multimatic 255
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Originally Posted by G-ManBart

I wouldn't go so far as to say the Everlast warranty is better.  My first Everlast had an issue develop within the first couple of weeks.  It took something like 55 e-mails, multiple phone calls and a number of parts sent to me before they finally offered a replacement or full purchase price credit towards an upgrade.  I only got that after spending two months with a broken machine while I replaced parts they sent me (half of them wrong).  I finally wound up on the phone with Oleg, the owner, and he offered me the replacement/return option.  It was past the first month so I had to pay to ship the bad unit back.  It was far more complicated than it needed to be.  The second machine has been fine, but I expect that when it dies it's going in the scrap pile.
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Originally Posted by pontoon

Yeah, I do hate when a company is difficult to deal with, to the point they may as well not have a warranty. The titanium has a 90 day warranty. I think it’s safe to say Harbor Freight’s warranty is equal or better for the first 30 days, better from days 31-90. From days 91 to 1,825 (5 years) I suppose something is better than nothing (maybe barely in this case). With the Harbor Freight, at least I’m guaranteed to save $100. With the Everlast, I can eventually use a foot pedal if I get into tig. And it has adjustable hot start and adjustable arc force. Are those features important, or will it weld well without it?And will I find myself wanting the extra 25 amps if I get the Titanium?Since there was discussion of power above, please note I have 250v 50amp power.