Interesting little layout square I make on the side

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I'm interested in any feedback / suggestions anyone has on a little square I started making a while ago. I was looking at my T bevel square and wondered why it couldn't act as a 90 and 45 degree square, and also as a combination square, and I came up with what I call the OmniSquare. I made a demo video of it which can easily be searched for and found. Any suggestions on it would be helpful. Thanks
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Originally Posted by weldermike

Um.....pssst. i'm whispering, wheres the pics, or link?
Reply:Looks cool, is it worth 25$ , maybe . You could always send me one and I will let you know. Lol.
Reply:Looks handy indeed, I think I might have found something for my brother for a late x-mas bonus.
Reply:I ordered three of them I can definitely put that to use. And give some as gifts.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
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Originally Posted by William McCormick

I ordered three of them I can definitely put that to use. And give some as gifts.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
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Originally Posted by OmniDude

Thanks William, they're in tomorrows mail.
Reply:Any plans on making a metric version? I regularly work in both metric and imperial and would probably pick up one of each.
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Originally Posted by ndnihil

Any plans on making a metric version? I regularly work in both metric and imperial and would probably pick up one of each.
Reply:I received those squares on Tuesday, and started to test them out. They were actually nicer then I thought they would be. Are those Delrin balls or pins in there? If they are I would not lay it on a part I just welded. I realized I have to make sure, when changing the angle, that the top piece is fully extended. It is kind of a common sense no brain-er thing, but it had me baffled for a minute until I understood what I forgot. It comes from all the poor products I have gotten over the years Ha-ha. I have used your square, and it is very nice, very accurate. Better then I thought it would be. Thank You, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Happy Holidays to all. If you make a larger one, I would buy it. I would use it for checking angles on bent pipe. Two degree increments would be more then enough.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:I currently use the Starrett angle tool, it is a bit heavy and if you drop it, it gets screwed up. It has two degree increments which is fine for bending pipe. If you want the odd numbers just put it between the lines.                             Sincerely,                                William McCormick
Reply:The more I use this square the more I like it. You can put it in your jacket pocket or pants pocket. It is really a cool tool. The workman ship is really high quality the anodizing and stamping is very high quality. Very good tool.                         Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:Thanks for the reviews William. I use high density nylon balls inserted in countersunk holes which click into the angle positioning holes, and also the slot when using as a combination square. On my 1st prototypes I used stainless steel balls, but they eventually wore the holes in the square, ruining it. I tested these high density nylon ones by setting up a jig on one of my drill presses and rotated the blade 360 degrees, 2500 revolutions. The change in squareness was one thousands of an inch measured at the end of the blade, and with no wear to the members of the square, so I called that good. If the balls ever do wear, or you have a high heat accident, the balls can be easily replaced and the square will be as accurate as it was when new. To date with over 1000 sold, I've only had one customer need new ones and I just sent them out no charge. Maybe in the future I'll charge a buck.Thanks again William
Reply:Just ordered one myself!
Reply:Just got one as well.  Can't wait.  BTW can you give me some info on who does your website?  I'm looking to do something similar and like the simplicity of yours.  Thanks for your help.
Reply:That was quick, already got tracking info.
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Originally Posted by Roadhunter

Just got one as well.  Can't wait.  BTW can you give me some info on who does your website?  I'm looking to do something similar and like the simplicity of yours.  Thanks for your help.
Reply:I also ordered one...priority mail works best down here
Reply:Same shipping price to Canada? I'd like to get some for me and my friends. USPS is cheapest to here.Really good idea, is that one that startled you awake in the middle of the night? One suggestion: a divot or notch at the end of the scale (maybe 1/16") to hold a pencil steady for circle drawing or layout (depth) modes.Hope your patent comes through soon, I can already imagine the off-shore thieves circling. Best of luck to you, bud!Last edited by bearston; 12-30-2014 at 12:30 PM.

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Originally Posted by OmniDude

Thanks for the reviews William. I use high density nylon balls inserted in countersunk holes which click into the angle positioning holes, and also the slot when using as a combination square. On my 1st prototypes I used stainless steel balls, but they eventually wore the holes in the square, ruining it. I tested these high density nylon ones by setting up a jig on one of my drill presses and rotated the blade 360 degrees, 2500 revolutions. The change in squareness was one thousands of an inch measured at the end of the blade, and with no wear to the members of the square, so I called that good. If the balls ever do wear, or you have a high heat accident, the balls can be easily replaced and the square will be as accurate as it was when new. To date with over 1000 sold, I've only had one customer need new ones and I just sent them out no charge. Maybe in the future I'll charge a buck.Thanks again William
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Originally Posted by bearston

Same shipping price to Canada? I'd like to get some for me and my friends. USPS is cheapest to here.Really good idea, is that one that startled you awake in the middle of the night? One suggestion: a divot or notch at the end of the scale (maybe 1/16") to hold a pencil steady for circle drawing or layout (depth) modes.Hope your patent comes through soon, I can already imagine the off-shore thieves circling. Best of luck to you, bud!
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Originally Posted by roadkillbobb

why dont you offer to sell the replacement balls as an extra...or a maintenance kit
Reply:Looks like something I would use a lot. The one I have does not stay put at angles selected...Do you ship internationally?
Reply:I got mine in the mail today.Very nice product, anyone who needs a square this is the one to get!TA 181ITA 186Torchmate 3  5x10Victor A120Got mine also and I live in the Virgin Islands....that was fast
Reply:I just ordered one myself.  There was a guy around here that was making something sort of similar and selling them on Craigslist, I think he was a Fireman who also did construction.  Don't know what happened to him though.I can see using this on a lot of the smaller parts I make and on fitting parts to narrow flanges on small beams.  If you make a larger one, say at least 12", I'd buy one of those too.  Actually 18" would be even better for what I do, structural fabrication and fitting.  What would really be ideal is one where both sides can sit flush when laid flat on a surface.  For instance, when laying out in the web in the middle of a beam let's say I have to put a plate at a 30 degree angle to another plate.  Well that can be a pain, but it would be a piece of cake if I could just have a layout tool that laid perfectly flat on the web, without me having to take the time to make something.Anyway, this looks like a great tool which will always be in my pocket.  I'll be certain to tell the other guys in the shop where they can buy their own instead of borrowing mine.
Reply:I've seen similar products at my LWS. However, I'd rather support an independent maker and I just got paid today, so. . .
Reply:I just bought three more. They really are very handy. The guys love them.                       Sincerely,                            William McCormickIf I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.
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Originally Posted by PK.

I just ordered one myself.  There was a guy around here that was making something sort of similar and selling them on Craigslist, I think he was a Fireman who also did construction.  Don't know what happened to him though.I can see using this on a lot of the smaller parts I make and on fitting parts to narrow flanges on small beams.  If you make a larger one, say at least 12", I'd buy one of those too.  Actually 18" would be even better for what I do, structural fabrication and fitting.  What would really be ideal is one where both sides can sit flush when laid flat on a surface.  For instance, when laying out in the web in the middle of a beam let's say I have to put a plate at a 30 degree angle to another plate.  Well that can be a pain, but it would be a piece of cake if I could just have a layout tool that laid perfectly flat on the web, without me having to take the time to make something.Anyway, this looks like a great tool which will always be in my pocket.  I'll be certain to tell the other guys in the shop where they can buy their own instead of borrowing mine.
Reply:How accurate are these?
Reply:Ordered one yesterday.
Reply:Maybe consider a discount price for members . Could increase sales.
Reply:I have already used mine on a project I did with my daughter.  Works great.  She ended up playing with it and doing all my marking for cuts in wood timbers.  Highly recommended.
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Originally Posted by BD1

Maybe consider a discount price for members . Could increase sales.
Reply:Just ordered one myself.....Mike
Reply:Just got one ordered and it's shipped within 24hrs...
Reply:Really outstanding tool, thank you! Earns a spot in my rigging bag.  Hope the product takes off for you. No criticism (in fact the opposite!) but when get to version 2, you may consider:1. countersunk flathead pivot bolt  (to lay flat on thin material on a tabletop)2. closed acorn locknut w/crimp style lock feature (resist dirt; less pocket snagging; no low-temp plastic)3. PEEK, polyimide (Vespel) or PAI (Torlon) balls (T > 500F; wear resistant; ~50 cents more per tool?)
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Originally Posted by TigMonster

How accurate are these?
Reply:I just ordered one.  Looks like it has the potential to replace my favorite square in my toolbox!ECAVE Still learnin'Lincoln AC225Lincoln 135SPHF ChopsawVictor O/ANumerous other items
Reply:Got mine day before yesterday. I'm sure I'll use it around the garage, if I was still on the shop floor I'd be using it there as well, a well built tool.....Mike
Reply:Got an email less than 3 hours later that my order was ready to ship!  Now that's service!Can't wait to get it.ECAVE Still learnin'Lincoln AC225Lincoln 135SPHF ChopsawVictor O/ANumerous other items
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Originally Posted by OmniDude

I'm interested in any feedback / suggestions anyone has on a little square I started making a while ago. I was looking at my T bevel square and wondered why it couldn't act as a 90 and 45 degree square, and also as a combination square, and I came up with what I call the OmniSquare. I made a demo video of it which can easily be searched for and found. Any suggestions on it would be helpful. Thanks
Reply:So I ordered my Omnisquare at 10 am EST on the 22nd and I just took it out of the mailbox.  Talk about fast service!  The square is going to be a very nice addition to my toolbox.  I am looking forward to using it.  Nice American made product.  Nice work OminDude!

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Reply:Word of mouth makes great advertisement. Based on the positive reviews here, I just ordered one for myself. Great idea and love supporting American Made products when I can.PapaLincoln Idealarc 250 (circa 1962)Lincoln Weldpak 155 w/Mig KitLincoln Squarewave TIG 175
Reply:I don't believe you will be disappointed Papa!ECAVE Still learnin'Lincoln AC225Lincoln 135SPHF ChopsawVictor O/ANumerous other items
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Originally Posted by William McCormick

How many would I have to order to get a mill quantity discount or a distributor status? I have to order some more and I got to thinking.                        Sincerely,                            William McCormick
Reply:Going to snag one of these soon!
Reply:Received mine last week. I like it. Just have a small question for omnidude. What's the 111 for at the end of the tool?Lincoln Idealarc 250 (circa 1962)Lincoln Weldpak 155 w/Mig KitLincoln Squarewave TIG 175
Reply:I recieved three more right away as well. Great company.Sincerely, William McCormickIf I wasn't so.....crazy, I wouldn't try to act normal, and you would be afraid.