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Hey guys, has anyone ever seen an extension cord for a MIG gun? I am building a steel frame barn, and it would really help to have a longer MIG gun cable. My current gun has a 15 foot cable. I would really like a 25 foot, or even 30 foot long gun cable. My current gun is a Miller GA-21, and the machine is a Miller 200. I have a Spool gun for it with a 20 foot cord, and it functions great, but is heavy and awkward sometimes. A 25 foot+ whip on a standard MIG gun would be a great help. I am running .035 ER70s-6 wire for this project.I would also like to say this is an awesome site! a lot of great knowledge is shared here.Geoff
Reply:You can get longer Mig gun assemblies BUT if you're using small wire like .035" you will have nothing but problems. No different than trying to run .023" wire in a 15' gun, you're asking for trouble. It would also be more of a load on the wire feed motor and is only a 2 drive roll system. Best bet is to put the machine on a cart with big tires you can roll in place easily. Use an engine crane or some other type of hoist if you need to weld higher up. Spool gun could be an option too for hard to reach area's.
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Originally Posted by Welder Dave
You can get longer Mig gun assemblies BUT if you're using small wire like .035" you will have nothing but problems. No different than trying to run .023" wire in a 15' gun, you're asking for trouble. It would also be more of a load on the wire feed motor and is only a 2 drive roll system. Best bet is to put the machine on a cart with big tires you can roll in place easily. Use an engine crane or some other type of hoist if you need to weld higher up. Spool gun could be an option too for hard to reach area's.
Reply:This type of intended use is exactly the reason they make suitcase feeders. Stick would be my choice for welding on a building as wind is an issue along with needing extra length.
Reply:I have had 25ft Tweco it was ok.I switched back to 15 foot gun it gave a smooth weld.The 25foot had lay just right to must of a pain to weld.Dave
Originally Posted by ToolFanGeoff
Hey guys, has anyone ever seen an extension cord for a MIG gun? I am building a steel frame barn, and it would really help to have a longer MIG gun cable. My current gun has a 15 foot cable. I would really like a 25 foot, or even 30 foot long gun cable. My current gun is a Miller GA-21, and the machine is a Miller 200. I have a Spool gun for it with a 20 foot cord, and it functions great, but is heavy and awkward sometimes. A 25 foot+ whip on a standard MIG gun would be a great help. I am running .035 ER70s-6 wire for this project.I would also like to say this is an awesome site! a lot of great knowledge is shared here.Geoff
Reply:As a general rule the longer MIG whips are used with wire feeds that have a 4-roll drive setup. As nice as a MM200 welds, I don't think the drive system is up to a 25+ft whip. You'd almost certainly have to keep it laid out really straight which would probably defeat the purpose for the kind of work it sounds like you're going to be doing.I would be really, really hesitate to MIG weld anything on a building that was remotely load-bearing or critical. You might want to look into dual-shield wire if you're set on a wire feed process.Check out my bench vise website: http://mivise.comMiller Syncrowave 250DXMillermatic 350P with XR AlumaProMiller Regency 200 with 22A feeder and Spoolmatic 3Hobart Champion EliteEverlast PowerTig 210EXT
Reply:Take a look at Cobra push/pull guns.
Reply:Thank you guys for the excellent input. I was hoping to hear about a magic extension with a special liner, but the real answer is not so easy. For now i will continue to use my spool gun. Walker, your suggestion is great, I would love to have a push pull gun. G-Man, This is a horse barn / hay barn (I should have been more clear). I am an Engineer, designing for load is what I do (my real job). I appreciate the concern though. MJD, again, a great suggestion on the suitcase. Maybe I will pull the trigger on a Millermatic 255 with pulse, and a 25ft push pull gun. Just have to convince myself to part with the money - I am a hobbyist like Oscar. Geoff
Reply:Lots of $$$ to get into a push pull gun and you need the right machine to hook it up to. A suitcase feeder is also a chunk of money. I didn't think the OP was looking at a new machine or wire feeder. He was wondering what he could do with his MM200.
Reply:Welder Dave, I am the original poster. Thank you for jumping in. You are correct, I was looking for something to make my MM200 do something it can't. The guys who replied to my post all offered good advice from their experience, and I really appreciate it. This is so refreshingly different than so many forums where people are quick to be negative - especially to a new guy. I enjoy welding. I am fortunate enough to have a Miller Spoolmatic 1 that is a plug and play for my MM200. It works great, I weld both aluminum and steel with it. The leads are almost long enough for my stall construction, but it can be heavy and awkward working on a ladder. I am hesitant to buy a push pull gun for my MM200. I am a hobby welder on a tiny ranch. I have O/A, AC/DC TIG, a couple of plasma cutters, dry saw. I would like to invest in a new technology machine and a new Miller push pull gun - it is just a lot of money.Geoff
Reply:My last weld shop used 250 pound 10 foot jib below the crane , that was was only for wire feeder with a low cost hoist Harbor Frieght. I only use wire in 60 pounds coils and made easy to reload the wire feed.This gave a 25 foot diameter reached for welding and a smooth feed. We also found in pinch by lowering the hoist and pulling on feed a 35 foot diameter reach 😀. I did keep the wheels on wire feeder so roll around shop. The welder had 100 foot of cord and did come in handy too for odd jobs.Dave
Originally Posted by ToolFanGeoff
Welder Dave, I am the original poster. Thank you for jumping in. You are correct, I was looking for something to make my MM200 do something it can't. The guys who replied to my post all offered good advice from their experience, and I really appreciate it. This is so refreshingly different than so many forums where people are quick to be negative - especially to a new guy. I enjoy welding. I am fortunate enough to have a Miller Spoolmatic 1 that is a plug and play for my MM200. It works great, I weld both aluminum and steel with it. The leads are almost long enough for my stall construction, but it can be heavy and awkward working on a ladder. I am hesitant to buy a push pull gun for my MM200. I am a hobby welder on a tiny ranch. I have O/A, AC/DC TIG, a couple of plasma cutters, dry saw. I would like to invest in a new technology machine and a new Miller push pull gun - it is just a lot of money.Geoff
Reply:That is where a 120V Mig welder comes in handy. I made my weld cart with a lifting lug, I also have a lug on my tractor's front bucket so I can pick it and go anywhere. If I'm real remote, I made a 3-point cart that I can put a generator in. I have a Hobart 135 that runs off 120V.If you have a tractor you could even set the cart in the loader.
Reply:120/240 volt machines can be the same size as 120 volt machines but that is irrelevant to what the OP is asking. There is a risk using a front end loader to pick up and hold a machine in the air. It could be OK if a brace was used to prevent the loader and/or bucket from falling.
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Originally Posted by KenO
That is where a 120V Mig welder comes in handy. I made my weld cart with a lifting lug, I also have a lug on my tractor's front bucket so I can pick it and go anywhere. If I'm real remote, I made a 3-point cart that I can put a generator in. I have a Hobart 135 that runs off 120V.If you have a tractor you could even set the cart in the loader.
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Originally Posted by G-ManBart
Using a MIG to weld anything remotely structural isn't a great idea....using a 120V MIG is even worse.
Reply:I agreeWhen I had my shop the largest welder 750 amp.It was high production machine. A 120 volt just is to small.All wire feeders was Miller 30E and could run 300 pound drum. But I only used 60 pound coils by time you coil and feeder it was heavy. Dave
Originally Posted by G-ManBart
Using a MIG to weld anything remotely structural isn't a great idea....using a 120V MIG is even worse.
Reply:I have all 15 foot guns on all my mugs except for the 25' push pull guns. On order for my passport plus's to run a 15' gun, I had to change to a knurled drive roll. After I did that, it welded just fine. Most times in the field a 12' gun just isnt possible. I do a lot of hanging off a scissor or boom lift welding.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply:Guys, I just wanted to thank everyone one more time for all of the great input. For now i am going to continue to work using my spool gun.Thanks again,Geoff
Reply:Rent a crane/hang a hoist/etc and take to box to the welding, of course, then you need a good lead for the welder. |
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