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I keep seeing an ad pop up in front of me for one of these:https://www.yeswelder.com/collection...-welder-mig205Seems like control pad would wear out fast but the price is hard to resist. Just wondering if anyone has bought one or knows anything about the company.
Reply:I had them send me a couple pics of the feed system and it's the same as most import units so I think that part is solid. I also think the soft keys would be fine. Pretty common these days. It's legit. They will respond to you on e-bay. $300.00 is a crazy good price and I can't imagine it being any worse than Harbor Freight. E-Bay gives you buyer protection and you can do a warranty I believe 2 years for $35.00. I'm considering it to leave it at my cabinThermal Arc 320SP ( Lorch )Cobra PythonsThermal Arc 300 AC/DC ( Sanrex )ESAB 301i AC/DC ( Lorch )Thermal Arc 161STL ( WTL )Thermal Arc 190S ( Sanrex )Cut Master 82, 42. Cut45 ( WTL )Victor Gas Apps.Boxes and boxes of welding crap.
Reply:The description says steel only but I wonder if they are referring to TIG. There is no spool gun available but It seems you would be able to weld aluminum with the proper liner and drive rolls (if available) unless there is something in the electronics that prevents it. It also seems to require 8" wire rolls but someone had mentioned that a generic spindle adapter was available with modifications. I sent them an email with these questions. Also, many credit cards will extend the warranty for a year.
Reply:You can add a spool gun off of e-bay. You just splice into the 24v feed motor wires and put in a toggle switch. Pretty straight forward. Flip the toggle to run the mig gun or flip to run the spool gun. On the spindle, I was sent a pic from them and you can take off the spindle for the 10# spools and run 2# or 1# if wanted. And yes a teflon liner would work for aluminum. I'm not trying to sell anyone on these. The machine just caught my eye as being very nice for very low cost.Thermal Arc 320SP ( Lorch )Cobra PythonsThermal Arc 300 AC/DC ( Sanrex )ESAB 301i AC/DC ( Lorch )Thermal Arc 161STL ( WTL )Thermal Arc 190S ( Sanrex )Cut Master 82, 42. Cut45 ( WTL )Victor Gas Apps.Boxes and boxes of welding crap.
Reply:Thanks for the information. I might brave this, but I'm a beginner/novice welder so if I have problems it will be more difficult to determine if it is me or the machine. I have a battery operated MIG welder for off-roading (Ready Welder) that I've been using. I'm not that concerned about the spool gun or 1-2# spools since I can fall back on that and I rarely weld aluminum anyway. It's just a PIA to get out a couple of batteries every time I need to use it.
Reply:https://www.amazon.com/MIG-205-Weldi...07VSN9NV9?th=1You got me curious so I looked on Amazon. The reviews are generally favorable, worth what it cost. A couple of customers got 'customer return' units or other problems. Phone support offered immediate replacement and was good to straighten out problems.Everyone says it welds well. Note the reviews jumble together all of the Askwelder versions and none of the customer photos matched the Amazon listing. One guy said his 205 can't be set to more than 150 amps. Note it needs 35 amps from the wall (not likely!) to give the claimed 160 amps on 110 volts.Price is cheaper if you don't get the helmet included. Extended warranty looks worthwhile. Those buttons are the same as on a home microwave which last 10+ years so I wouldn't worry about that.Based on the reviews it seems to be worth the price, which is far less than a pro production welder.HF MIG-180 with all the mods.Grizzly H8153 Stick/Tig Pulse 130/160.Wards PowrKraft AC-230. Stick & carbon arc.
Reply:I'm not buying one due to already having 5 welders but it's tempting. I saw it on E-bay and they seller was very prompt in answering my questions and sending pics. I think you can even buy it without the mig gun if you already have a euro gun laying around.Thermal Arc 320SP ( Lorch )Cobra PythonsThermal Arc 300 AC/DC ( Sanrex )ESAB 301i AC/DC ( Lorch )Thermal Arc 161STL ( WTL )Thermal Arc 190S ( Sanrex )Cut Master 82, 42. Cut45 ( WTL )Victor Gas Apps.Boxes and boxes of welding crap.
Reply:I don't think the MIG-205DS is available on amazon anymore (the TIG-205DS is). I sent them an email Sunday morning and received the following reply Sunday evening:"Thank you for reaching out.We don't supply spool gun at the moment. Our MIG-205DS could support 2pounds (D100mm) and 10pounds (D200mm) wire. We're working on a new welder MIG-270K which comes with spool gun. We'll keep you informed as soon as it is available.If there is anything more we could help, please don't hesitate to reach out to us directly. YesWelder Team is here to help.Best RegardsYesWelder Support Teamwww.YesWelder.comEnjoy welding with YesWelder"I had also asked about using aluminum wire with a different liner and drive roller but they didn't address that.Last edited by RKCRLR; 04-27-2020 at 09:59 AM.
Reply:In 'comparables' listed on Amazon there's another ultra-cheap welder that might be a clone to this one. It's been offered for a year, so its not a scam vendor.$199 with free shipping to arrive within a week. Shipped from US, not China. And Amazon cashback if it never arrives.https://www.amazon.com/ITS200-Weldin..._t2_B0766R8TJ9Quality? Who knows. The one review is independent of the vendor, and favorable. Maybe it comes from the same factory as HF's stuff!HF MIG-180 with all the mods.Grizzly H8153 Stick/Tig Pulse 130/160.Wards PowrKraft AC-230. Stick & carbon arc.
Reply:I decided to take a chance and bought the MIG-205DS. I don't plan on welding aluminum anytime soon. It will be interesting to see if anyone else on this site buys one and gets it set up for aluminum.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
I decided to take a chance and bought the MIG-205DS. I don't plan on welding aluminum anytime soon. It will be interesting to see if anyone else on this site buys one and gets it set up for aluminum.
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Originally Posted by Rondo
You can buy a spoolgun on e-bay with the euro connect back end. ( don't buy the $70 one with the white spool attached. It doesn't take a standard spool ) What you need to do is take off the cover and splice the 2 trigger wires into the 2 24v drive motor wires and run them through a toggle switch. Flip it to Spool Gun when you want to run it. flip it back when not. The easy wire connection diagram comes with the inexpensive switch on e-bay as well. This is how all manufactures do it.
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Originally Posted by Rondo
Please post or send a message on what you think of the machine. Very curious.
Reply:I see Amazon has these back in stock.https://www.amazon.com/MIG-205-Weldi...07TVCWDGW?th=1I have a question I'm hoping one of you pros can answer. On the second review listed:Dustin Raley4.0 out of 5 stars Works great, final update.Reviewed in the United States on September 29, 2019Dustin talks about how it seems to work really well on 110 volts. He's looking forward to checking it out on 220 volts when he gets the correct 110 -> 220 adapter. I have two dual voltage welders. Both of them have a 220 plug on the welder, and a separate adapter/pigtail to use 110 volts. The pictures of this welder show the same thing. 220 plug on the machine with an included 110 pigtail. Yet in Dustin's review he mentions that he has used it on 110 volts, and is awaiting the adapter to plug it into 220 volts?What am I missing here? Do the new ones have a 110 plug on the machine, and use a pigtail for 220?The first Chinese multi-process welder with AC HF TIG to hit the Amazon market at these crazy cheap prices, will make a killing if they have any quality at all. Thanks in advance.
Reply:Some of the newer imports come with a crazy 3 prong 230v plug. All prongs are round about the size of out 115v ground prong. I wouldn't be surprised if this is what it has and you need to add a standard 230 plug. The adaptor to 115v can be obtained at any of the multiprocess brands. I'm not seeing anything about AC/DC or AC tig on this unit. They did send me pics of the drive system and it's just like all the sti=uff out there including Everlast, ESAB and Miller. It's a standard euro design that is proven. I have 7 welders now but i'm close to buying one of these and return it if it's not what it appears.Thermal Arc 320SP ( Lorch )Cobra PythonsThermal Arc 300 AC/DC ( Sanrex )ESAB 301i AC/DC ( Lorch )Thermal Arc 161STL ( WTL )Thermal Arc 190S ( Sanrex )Cut Master 82, 42. Cut45 ( WTL )Victor Gas Apps.Boxes and boxes of welding crap.
Reply:This is getting ridiculous!!!A welder similar to the one discussed in this thread, for $19.99 shipped.I don't know what to make of this. This seller has feedback for selling one of these recently but claims 250 sold. A similar stick welder seller also claims many sold but his feedback is mostly for shirts. Clearly a broker-speculator, not a welding shop. Is it worth the trouble to search for similar-price welders with more extensive feedback? Anybody here ever successfully received one of these $20 welders?There are several similar listings for stick, tig, plasma cutter at the bottom of this page. Are these for real???https://www.ebay.com/itm/HITBOX-Digital-AC-DC-Aluminum-Welder-110-240V-PFC-HF-TIG-MMA-ARC-Welding-Machine/303570914871?_trkparms=aid%3D1110012%26algo%3DSPLI CE.SOIPOST%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200420083544%26meid% 3Ddf86a6d758794453b55f25ab363f3ef0%26pid%3D100008% 26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D30357506031 8%26itm%3D303570914871%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D 2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2%26bra nd%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219HF MIG-180 with all the mods.Grizzly H8153 Stick/Tig Pulse 130/160.Wards PowrKraft AC-230. Stick & carbon arc.
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Originally Posted by California
This is getting ridiculous!!!A welder similar to the one discussed in this thread, for $19.99 shipped.I don't know what to make of this. This seller has feedback for selling one of these recently but claims 250 sold. A similar stick welder seller also claims many sold but his feedback is mostly for shirts. Clearly a broker-speculator, not a welding shop. Is it worth the trouble to search for similar-price welders with more extensive feedback? Anybody here ever successfully received one of these $20 welders?There are several similar listings for stick, tig, plasma cutter at the bottom of this page. Are these for real???https://www.ebay.com/itm/HITBOX-Digital-AC-DC-Aluminum-Welder-110-240V-PFC-HF-TIG-MMA-ARC-Welding-Machine/303570914871?_trkparms=aid%3D1110012%26algo%3DSPLI CE.SOIPOST%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200420083544%26meid% 3Ddf86a6d758794453b55f25ab363f3ef0%26pid%3D100008% 26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D30357506031 8%26itm%3D303570914871%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D 2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2%26bra nd%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
Reply:I ordered 3 of these $20.00 ebay machines just for the heck of it.. 1= AC/DC 1=3 in1 1=230pulse 3 in 1. First I contacted Ebay and they say that I am protected with buyer protection and can easily get my money back. I contacted the seller and they say they are trying to break into the USA market and are offering the machines at a cost of materials loss for 30 days. Lol.. I expect a paypal refund on these and maybe it will make Ebay tighten the ship a little bit if they have to keep refunding.. We will see.Thermal Arc 320SP ( Lorch )Cobra PythonsThermal Arc 300 AC/DC ( Sanrex )ESAB 301i AC/DC ( Lorch )Thermal Arc 161STL ( WTL )Thermal Arc 190S ( Sanrex )Cut Master 82, 42. Cut45 ( WTL )Victor Gas Apps.Boxes and boxes of welding crap.
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Originally Posted by Steve007
I see Amazon has these back in stock.https://www.amazon.com/MIG-205-Weldi...07TVCWDGW?th=1I have a question I'm hoping one of you pros can answer. On the second review listed:Dustin Raley4.0 out of 5 stars Works great, final update.Reviewed in the United States on September 29, 2019Dustin talks about how it seems to work really well on 110 volts. He's looking forward to checking it out on 220 volts when he gets the correct 110 -> 220 adapter. I have two dual voltage welders. Both of them have a 220 plug on the welder, and a separate adapter/pigtail to use 110 volts. The pictures of this welder show the same thing. 220 plug on the machine with an included 110 pigtail. Yet in Dustin's review he mentions that he has used it on 110 volts, and is awaiting the adapter to plug it into 220 volts?What am I missing here? Do the new ones have a 110 plug on the machine, and use a pigtail for 220?The first Chinese multi-process welder with AC HF TIG to hit the Amazon market at these crazy cheap prices, will make a killing if they have any quality at all. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by California
This is getting ridiculous!!!A welder similar to the one discussed in this thread, for $19.99 shipped.I don't know what to make of this. This seller has feedback for selling one of these recently but claims 250 sold. A similar stick welder seller also claims many sold but his feedback is mostly for shirts. Clearly a broker-speculator, not a welding shop. Is it worth the trouble to search for similar-price welders with more extensive feedback? Anybody here ever successfully received one of these $20 welders?There are several similar listings for stick, tig, plasma cutter at the bottom of this page. Are these for real???https://www.ebay.com/itm/HITBOX-Digital-AC-DC-Aluminum-Welder-110-240V-PFC-HF-TIG-MMA-ARC-Welding-Machine/303570914871?_trkparms=aid%3D1110012%26algo%3DSPLI CE.SOIPOST%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200420083544%26meid% 3Ddf86a6d758794453b55f25ab363f3ef0%26pid%3D100008% 26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D30357506031 8%26itm%3D303570914871%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D 2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2%26bra nd%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
You can remove everything past the "?" after the item number, the rest of it is just tracking and search information.That's a fraudulent listing. I reported it as such.How about this one, an Amico plasma for $29.99 ??? I reported this also.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amico-APC-5...g/303575084120
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Originally Posted by Rondo
I ordered 3 of these $20.00 ebay machines just for the heck of it.. 1= AC/DC 1=3 in1 1=230pulse 3 in 1. First I contacted Ebay and they say that I am protected with buyer protection and can easily get my money back. I contacted the seller and they say they are trying to break into the USA market and are offering the machines at a cost of materials loss for 30 days. Lol.. I expect a paypal refund on these and maybe it will make Ebay tighten the ship a little bit if they have to keep refunding.. We will see.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
$20 probably wouldn't even cover the shipping....
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
Let us know when they say they've shipped and if they provide tracking numbers.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
Let us know when they say they've shipped and if they provide tracking numbers.Call me old fashioned, I have learned not to buy product from China unless nowhere else exists to buy the same Chinese product that is already shipping from the U.S.By the time you wait for the product it doesn't seem worth it to me. Waiting 2-3 weeks to get some crap products is not worth my time. I might as well just buy from someone who has already shipped the stuff to the U.S. and has the product to ship on hand.In some cases it does cost more. I ordered some diamond wheel plates recently. I could have got them for almost half the price ($12 for 3 grits of 6" wheel plates) rather than the $24 w/tax and free shipping from the State I live in. Not worth my time to wait for 3 weeks to get them. At $24 for 3 x 6" diamond wheel plates is still dirt cheap. These are the style that attach to the side of a grinding wheel on a 6" bench grinder.https://www.ebay.com/itm/3PCS-6-Inch...0/303168447709I didn't know they would ship from my State, it just says multiple warehouses.
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Originally Posted by California
===. Or possibly valid numbers but tracing the shipment of a brochure or toy.
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
How about this one, an Amico plasma for $29.99 ??? I reported this also.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amico-APC-5...g/303575084120
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Originally Posted by California
I wonder what Ebay will do about him.
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
They will close the auctions at minimum, more likely remove his account. ...definitely a fraudulent sellerSee this posting and the 2 posted after it which was about 1 month ago.https://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthrea...12#post8744612
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Originally Posted by California
Thanks.
Reply:I received the MIG-205DS yesterday. The box and welder were undamaged. The following was included in the box:Welder with 110v power cord220v adapterMIG torch with 0.030 tipAdditional 0.030 and 0.035 tipStick welding stingerGround clamp and cordGas hoseAdditional knurled 0.9/1.0mm drive roll (a 0.8/0.9 V groove drive roll is installed in the machine)Funky plastic combination weld hammer/wire brushA roll of Teflon tape (I don't know what this is supposed to be for since the gas hose has compression fittings)Owner's manual (sort of - same basic manual that is online)I wound up cutting the gas line to connect it to my 1/4" barbed fitting on my flowmeter/regulator (not the welder's fault - it's a standard hose). It was going to cost as much in adapters as a replacement hose if I need one in the future. The wire access door seems a little flimsy but other that everything seems good. I tried a 4" wire roll just to make sure it fits and then installed a 8" roll. The 8" roll can wobble a little but it seems to work fine. It fires up on both 110v and 220v. I've done just enough welding (220v only) to make sure it wasn't DOA and the settings work. I don't understand how the Thickness function is supposed to work - the settings don't make sense in millimeters or inches. So far I'm very pleased with the welder, especially for the price. I'll post more once I've actually used it on a project. It will probably be a while, I don't need a welder that often. And keep in mind I'm a beginner/novice welder.Last edited by RKCRLR; 05-30-2020 at 08:55 PM.
Reply:I ended up buying wire feed drive rollers from china because they weren't available any other way, it took 6 or 8 weeks on the slow boat, worked & fit great though, got it off Amazon, I think it 9 bucks. I checked at my welding supplier & told him it was from a chinese machine, hell it looks to be much higher quality than the lincoln rolls I've seen, almost looks like a bearing.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didnt pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
Reply:I emailed Yeswelder to ask them how the Thickness function worked. The sent me some reference settings and told me "Please don't worry about how the workpiece thickness display work." One reference was the 205DS Quick start Guide (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0024/3249/9821/files/MIG-205DS_Handle_Book.pdf?18286) - they call it a "handle" book. Funny thing is the "handle" book settings are semi-consistent with the Thickness function settings. These settings are "hot". You point, pull, and run in a straight line but they seem to have good penetration. I only tried 0.035 wire and don't have many different thicknesses of scrap metal so take all of this with a grain of salt since I'm a beginner welder. You can "lay dimes" using the settings from the chart in this video: . The also sent me a chart from their upcoming 270K welder (attached) which also seems hot.
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that manages to weld aluminum with this welder. You'd have to "trick" the welder since there is not direct wire feed speed control. However, you can offset the voltage from the amperage setting. Hopefully the synergic function will automatically increase the wire feed speed.Last edited by RKCRLR; 06-02-2020 at 09:15 PM.
Reply:One thing I forgot to mention (don't know why my option to edit my post disappeared) is the welder has a standard US 110v plug on it. The adapter has male 220v prongs and a female 110v receptacle. What that means is you can use a standard 110v heavy-duty (i.e., 10 Ga) extension cord. Just don't forget and plug something else into it.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
One thing I forgot to mention (don't know why my option to edit my post disappeared) is the welder has a standard US 110v plug on it. The adapter has male 220v prongs and a female 110v receptacle. What that means is you can use a standard 110v heavy-duty (i.e., 10 Ga) extension cord. Just don't forget and plug something else into it.
Reply:I ordered the same welder. It will be here today, ordered a tig torch with it and 10# spool of flux core wire. Gonna test it this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Steve007
That sounds like such a risk for a company. You now someone is going to do just that. I can see the lawsuit now.
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Originally Posted by CAVEMANN
I ended up buying wire feed drive rollers from china because they weren't available any other way, it took 6 or 8 weeks on the slow boat, worked & fit great though, got it off Amazon, I think it 9 bucks. I checked at my welding supplier & told him it was from a chinese machine, hell it looks to be much higher quality than the lincoln rolls I've seen, almost looks like a bearing.
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Originally Posted by Rondo
Unless I'm missing something, The feed system ( they sent me pics ) Is the same as an ESAB Rebel and the 141, 181 and 211i Thermal Arc/ Tweco machines. Standard drive system these days. May even be the same as Everlast. Drive rolls should be readily available in the states
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Originally Posted by Rondo
Really should have a 230v male on the machine and a 115v adaptor. I wonder why they did it backward>
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Originally Posted by Steve007
That sounds like such a risk for a company. You now someone is going to do just that. I can see the lawsuit now.
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
That actually sounds moronic to me. There are no pigtails that are designed like that in the industry that I know of, it is standard to have the NEMA 6-50P on the machine cord and use a pigtail that goes from NEMA 50-6R -> NEMA 5-15P, if that is done a standard extension can be used also.Even so, that doesn't really make sense as most welders will not run very well on a 15 amp 120v circuit, but that is commonly used for 20 amps as well, I guess you could use it on 30 amp 120v circuits, but those are pretty rare for most homes.But you could use a standard extension if you had an industry standard pigtail also, so I don't get it.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
I guess I'm missing something. I can plug the Yeswelder adapter into my NEMA-50R outlet and use a NEMA 5-15 extension cord to run 220v to the welder. How would I run 220v to the welder using a NEMA 5-15 extension cord and an industry standard pigtail?
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
On the more common pigtail you will always have the lower amperage on the 120v pigtail side, if I understand the Yeswelder adapter correctly you will always have 240v going through the 120v plug..
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
That is correct (unless you plug it into a 120v outlet).
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Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks
But here's the bigger worry. 120v extension cords are common in small sizes only good for 15 amps. Seems very easy for someone to say, "Hey, I need to get my welder over to there, I'll just plug it into this extension I have!", and then plug that into the pigtail and into a 240v circuit. Just something to be aware of.
Reply:Well got my 205ds mig Yeswelder. Mig shielded and flux wiring welding works great. Sticks good as well. Got my tig lead in and my bottle of argon. Will be trying that next.
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Originally Posted by Maggnumb
Well got my 205ds mig Yeswelder. Mig shielded and flux wiring welding works great. Sticks good as well. Got my tig lead in and my bottle of argon. Will be trying that next.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
I'd be interested in hearing if you try MIG welding aluminum. |
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