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at work i work with a yung soon to be engineer who ask me what i wolud charge to weld a 3" pipe in to a flange for a 19" pipe ,so i say 19" pipe what's that?to witch he say's that dont sound right dose it i'll be back so wen he comes back we find out the his buddy all so a soon to be engineer had measured the flang on a 12" 150lb pipe ,ok so now my engineer ask thats not the right way to reduce a pipe is it? i say nope thay need to get a 12" weld neck flange and some reducers ,he tell them we wait a day to find out thay still want to do it there way so i say ok $20.00 bucks im mean all i got ti do is slip the pipe in a percut hole and run a bead right,WRONG  thay had the machine shop cut a 3" hole in the blind  ill let the pic's tell the rest Attached ImagesChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
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Reply:"Engineers" Now thats a tearm used loosley..  nice stitch weld.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:thanks zap can i sit on the porch with the big dog's now ChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:Originally Posted by chopper5thanks zap can i sit on the porch with the big dog's now
Reply:I just have to respond with a different perspective. I too was one of them "yung engineers" once, about 25 years ago. In contrast to popular opinion, engineering school is no substitute for years of hands on "school of hard knocks" experience that you obviously have a tremendous amount of. Unfortunately, many traditional engineering programs do a great job of presenting the fundamental principals that are used to solve problems or create great products and processes, but do not value the "real life" applications of these principals.Unlike the situation told of above, my early career was spent learning the "hands on" knowledge from experienced people like yourself and was always humbled at what could be learned from people willing to share and teach. Sure, many yungins come out of school with a head full of knowledge and ego's the size of hot air balloons, but to their credit, the process is very difficult and one must feel good about accomplishing the ultimate goal, graduating.Next time one of those snot-nose little know-it-alls comes to you confused, remember that you have a lot to share with him that may eventually help him eventually make this a better place for all.I would have never been able to accomplish the things I have as an engineer without people like you!
Reply:I would have never been able to accomplish the things I have as an engineer without people like you!
Reply:Originally Posted by zapster.....but i'm a firm believer that an "Engineer" should be a machinist/welder for 10 yrs beforhand.....zap!
Reply:Hey.....You know how there's "National Boss's Day", and "National Secretary's Day", etc......I think there should be a "National Slap The P*** Out Of An Engineer Day".....I'm sorry guys.....I'll Behave now.....Patrick
Reply:Originally Posted by Sober_PollockHey.....You know how there's "National Boss's Day", and "National Secretary's Day", etc......I think there should be a "National Slap The P*** Out Of An Engineer Day".....I'm sorry guys.....I'll Behave now.....
Reply:OH MAN!!!this just got way too funny......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by Sober_PollockHey.....You know how there's "National Boss's Day", and "National Secretary's Day", etc......I think there should be a "National Slap The P*** Out Of An Engineer Day".....I'm sorry guys.....I'll Behave now.....
Reply:Umm... Young engineer here.
Reply:Is it TIG or MIG?Nice weld My Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3   4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:i tiged it thanks and the engineer i work with is a real good machinist give him a few years and hell be one of the best engineers you could every work with. he ask a lot of how would you do that and is that the way it should be done questions and he like to work on the floor making and learning things.and believe me i've got story's of engineers that think thay know it all76GMC1500 nuthing wrong with that if you spend some time learning from the guys that build the stuff tooLast edited by chopper5; 10-25-2006 at 04:23 AM.ChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:Furthering the engineers being able to "work" thread here.  I am an architect.  Architects are considered by most builders/ contractors in the same way.  My situation is that my father was a building contractor.  As soon as he could put me to work, I was on the job.  Toting concrete blocks, shovelling gravel, nailing plywood.  Used to take the school bus to wherever he was working.  I never had to worry about finding a summer job.  Best thing that ever happened.I spent a year studying in London, long ago.  It's interesting that to get a degree in architecture in Europe, you are required to work 2 years "in the trades".  Makes total sense.  Best guy I ever worked with was a Danish trained architect.I always look for the guys on the job who have a better idea than what I drew.  I've had two occasions where I took time out of the office and went to work for the contractor.Back to the original thread, Nice Welds!
Reply:I was told the prints our "engineers" draw are more like guidelines.DewayneDixieland WeldingMM350PLincoln 100Some torchesOther misc. tools
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterThank you..but i'm a firm believer that an "Engineer" should be a machinist/welder for 10 yrs beforhand..that way there you know wtf your drawing...and what your "getting into"because sometimes i get prints that take weeks to straighten out..because they make no sence at all ... i've been doing this way too long........... just being honest.....zap!
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Reply:Im graduating in may with a AS in welding. I can weld darn fine. I might be a tad cocky, in fact it is being somewhat confident. The only way to learn somthing if you dont know, ask..but dont raise your nose up when we "youngins'" might bother you. We are all working towards a common goal. My 2cents-Owner - Certified Welding & Fabrication / 22yrs in businessSteamboat Springs, Co(970) 879-5491AWS structural shopHMI 70t iron worker2 field trucks specailizing in structural steel, aluminum and stainless steel
Reply:Originally Posted by wannabe_welderThe point you seem to miss is that not all folks are cut out to be hands on type workers, their minds just don't work that way.  They tend to think in more abstract terms, sometimes they just can't put it on paper.  In the same way some people tend to be artistic while others are all black and white.  Give those folks a bit of slack and share some of your knowledge with them rather than rubbing their faces in the fact that you know what they want before they do.  You got your wealth of knowledge from others, you damn sure didn't get it all on your own.just being honest.
Reply:who needs help? ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Yes I agree that Enginners should be dreamers. I have also seen the CNC machinist finish the work the engineer could not draw.Dan