My new rock rails

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Thanks to those who provided some input on my other thread.My rock rails are now finished and installed.  I'm pretty happy with them.  I jacked the the vehicle up on two wheels using the rails, and they didn't budge.
Reply:Very nice indeed. How are the front suspensions on those for rock/hill climbing? I saw a friend bust his front end links real easy.John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Good Job...might be too thick, but I don´t think that you´re saving weight with a hummer lolMy Babies: HF Drill pressHF Pipe Bender3   4.5" Black and Decker angle grindersLincoln Electric PROMIG 175that´s it!
Reply:well done ChuckASME Pressure Vessel welder
Reply:looks good... but...now you have to go find some big rocks...just to see if they will "hold up"...be sure to post pics... ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by MicroZoneVery nice indeed. How are the front suspensions on those for rock/hill climbing? I saw a friend bust his front end links real easy.
Reply:Originally Posted by elvergonGood Job...might be too thick, but I don´t think that you´re saving weight with a hummer lol
Reply:very nice, flows well with the line of the truck...Millermatic 175 MIGMiller Spectrum 375 PlasmaLincoln AC/DC 225 BuzzboxM-Tech NE5 Tube bender withcustom CNC machined 3/4" think main arms
Reply:Did you learn to weld at wyotech or off of xtreme 4x4?
Reply:Guilow - thanks for the answer. I always wondered about it. I'm sure the aftermarket industry came up with something. John -  fabricator extraordinaire, car nut!-  bleeding Miller blue! http://www.weldfabzone.com
Reply:Originally Posted by AntiblingDid you learn to weld at wyotech or off of xtreme 4x4?
Reply:on the center suport you ran threw the rail did you weld it threwout or just at the ends?? as i was looking at it i was thinking i hope he drilled some holes along the lingth of it and welded it in place, otherwise the first rock is going to just push it aside and bend in the rail.looks realy good, and besides being much stronger than a set you could have purchased i'll bet ya saved a few $$ to boot. summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by guilowNo.  This is only my third large project (first two were tables/carts).  I learned most everything by spending hours on this forum reading!
Reply:Nice Job!Drivesector Hobart Handler 140Hobart Handler 180Ready Welder 2Hobart Air Force 400Airco Stinger 225Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."OZZY"
Reply:Originally Posted by AntiblingIt wasnt a compliment, Wyotech and Xtreme 4x4 (hosts are Wyotech trained) teach their students the "its ok to make a weld just running tacks as long as you go really fast" technique.  Which is what it looks like you used here.
Reply:Originally Posted by fun4now.on the center suport you ran threw the rail did you weld it threwout or just at the ends?? as i was looking at it i was thinking i hope he drilled some holes along the lingth of it and welded it in place, otherwise the first rock is going to just push it aside and bend in the rail.looks realy good, and besides being much stronger than a set you could have purchased i'll bet ya saved a few $$ to boot.
Reply:FYI, Here are the stock rails.   They have nothing in between the "fins" of the brackets to keep them from getting crushed.   In the pic below I have cut them off, but you can see how they attach directly to the rails - with the only attachement point being the 2" end of the fins, welded on one side of each fin only. Attached Images
Reply:no the one you did looks much more solid than theres, i was refering to the one inside the long guard, in the pic above you show the cut open end with a center suport running all along the inside of the large flat section but i only see a small tack holding it at the end where it could be reached so i was wondering it you drilled the long flat to atach it inside the tub. as in the pic below. Attached Images summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:maybe this drawing will make it clearer. i would have drilled along the outer tub so i could fill the hole and atach the iner suport along the tube so it could not be pushed over or twisted, might be over kill?? but its what i would have done and was wondering if you did? Attached Images summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by fun4now.maybe this drawing will make it clearer. i would have drilled along the outer tub so i could fill the hole and atach the iner suport along the tube so it could not be pushed over or twisted, might be over kill?? but its what i would have done and was wondering if you did?
Reply:FWIW;you could still do it just drill a few holes and fill. although its already mounted and painted so it would be a lot of re-work at this point.but its good to kep that idea in your head for the next project, who knows you could be making them for your frends you meet on the trail, that would be quite a $$ maker. i am guessing the type you purchase would be about $300 or more per set and yours are not only nicer looking but much more sturdy. at $200 a side that could add up to some nice weekend project's.next you gotta start on new bumpersthats a good looking MM210 ya got there, i know a guy that can make ya a real nice cover for that. summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by fun4now.thats a good looking MM210 ya got there, i know a guy that can make ya a real nice cover for that.
Reply:click on the link in my signiture.you may have to rool down threw the wifes suff or you can click on the welding link on the left of the page and it will show only the welding stuff. summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.
Reply:Originally Posted by fun4now.click on the link in my signiture.you may have to rool down threw the wifes suff or you can click on the welding link on the left of the page and it will show only the welding stuff.
Reply:hey not every one is willing to admit to being out of the closet  so you have to market to them where they shop .   the wife just put it in the wrong catagory.look we can even dress up the tanks now. have to accesorize the welder cover ya know. i'm going to do my MM135 and its tank in cammo and the TA-185 and its tank in blue, gotta cover up it not being a Miller or the other welders will pick on it. Attached Images summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.Originally Posted by guilowFirst, it wasn't taken as a compliment.  Second, I have no idea what you are talking about.   I don't know what "running tacks" are, and I certainly didn't go fast.   Is there some sort of constructive criticism I'm supposed to be gathering from your feedback?  I'm not entirely sure, but it appears you think I did a bad job.   I'd like to know why because I'm always looking for room to improve.
Reply:Originally Posted by AntiblingSorry for the short responses.  The first pic you posted that showed your welds, looked like you made a weld by just making a series of tacks.  If you don't know what a tack is its a quick pull of the trigger to fuse it in one spot, or to tack it in place, used for getting everything ready to weld.  Now it has come to my attention, that Wyotech teaches that its ok to string a line of tacks together to make a weld with a MIG.  The hosts of Xtreme 4x4 were Wyotech trained and have since been passing on this technique as acceptable to use on roll cages, frames, and rock rails like you're building.  The pic of your weld looked like it was a tacks strung together, if that was the case it is not strong at all and I wouldn't trust it.  But after you posted more pics it appears that you were running full beads.  So the only advice I would give is keep practicin, welds are looking decent but maybe slow down some and your beads will lay flatter and look a little more uniform.
Reply:TIG is painfully slow compaired to the other options  summer is here, plant a tree for mother earth. if you dont have time or space, sponcer some one else to plant one for you.feel free to shoot me a PM or e-mail me at [email][email protected] i got lots of time.