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hi i have 117-060 century power mate 70 welds great but i want to add a cap and a spool gun. gun is relay no big deal but the cap i need to know is where and how do i add it any suggestions ?
Reply:Your better of replacing your mig.
Reply:Originally Posted by Jay OYour better of replacing your mig.
Reply:well i had it for a while and i like the flux wire over gas (i do lots of out in the open work ) and i have used lincons and fire power migs and it does the same job i just want a bit more duration when i use the high it works great on 18gauge and 3/16 mild steelLast edited by assassin_works; 04-25-2010 at 10:53 PM.
Reply:I'm guessing your using a 110v wire feed unit.  The only way to get more duration on the higher setting is by switching to the 220v unit.  Since you have a stickmate you must have 220v already so either get a bigger mig or just use the stick welder more.
Reply:well what do you think about a removing that cheesy piece of aluminum that the rectifier sits on and adding a real heat sink like the ones on the computers with all the fins and adding 2  four inch box fans to cool it and changing the fan to a big 6x6 box fan with a higher cfm to cool the rest of itLast edited by assassin_works; 04-27-2010 at 12:31 AM.
Reply:Probably be better to just put the unit in your freezer.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIProbably be better to just put the unit in your freezer.
Reply:OKCrack the door slightly when using the welder.Hard to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIProbably be better to just put the unit in your freezer.
Reply:lets hear some logical responses In order to get a logical response one must first have a logical questionSorry but thats how I see itZebMillermatic 200Miller Dialarc 250 ac/dcAll people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege
Reply:It's possible to keep the thermostat in the transformer cooler by using the "box fan" technique in order to extend the duty cycle. However, it's possible through use beyond the recommended duty cycle you could burn out secondary current carrying wires/cables.CWI, CWE, CST for Miller, Lincoln, Thermadyne, Hypertherm & ESABMillermatic 350PLincoln Invertec 205 AC/DCVictor combo torchESAB PCM 1125
Reply:Originally Posted by MaedarIt's possible to keep the thermostat in the transformer cooler by using the "box fan" technique in order to extend the duty cycle. However, it's possible through use beyond the recommended duty cycle you could burn out secondary current carrying wires/cables.
Reply:Out of all the responses you got only one that gave you a possible hint at you extending your duty cycle at the possibility of destroying your little machine, what is the sense in that.  Common sense would say that if you need to weld thicker material and you have a stick welder then use it.  If the problem is you don't know how to use it then learn.
Reply:Originally Posted by Jay OOut of all the responses you got only one that gave you a possible hint at you extending your duty cycle at the possibility of destroying your little machine, what is the sense in that.  Common sense would say that if you need to weld thicker material and you have a stick welder then use it.  If the problem is you don't know how to use it then learn.
Reply:Just because one member said it a way you like, doesn't make it any different. JayO gave you the best advice first and you chose to take offense to it. JayO than gave you his reasoning for his first post and again you shot it down. Why ?upgrading to a larger machine would be the only real choice.  You mentioned you want a spool gun, Well the only reason for a spool gun is for welding aluminum which that little welder just wont do. Also by changing one component will only over load another one. These are just common sense. Don't insult members here just because they tell you things you don't want to hear. Not one reply was over the line even the ones that were a bit on the funny side.Miller DVI2Lincoln Precision Tig 225Thermodynamics Cutmaster 38Everything else needed.
Reply:If your worried about duty cycle buy a BIGGER welder no sense in running the little machine into the ground.  You right you may have not asked about welding thicker material but the answer is the same, you want an increase in duty cycle buy a bigger machine.  Welding should be more then just running a bead, you need to know about your machines and there abilities.  Once you figure out how to mount a box fan to your welder please post a pic if you can, that way you can be an inspiration to others.
Reply:I still like the freezer idea best! MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Originally Posted by Jay OIf your worried about duty cycle buy a BIGGER welder no sense in running the little machine into the ground.  You right you may have not asked about welding thicker material but the answer is the same, you want an increase in duty cycle buy a bigger machine.  Welding should be more then just running a bead, you need to know about your machines and there abilities.  Once you figure out how to mount a box fan to your welder please post a pic if you can, that way you can be an inspiration to others.
Reply:Originally Posted by DesertRider33I still like the freezer idea best!
Reply:Originally Posted by jamlitJust because one member said it a way you like, doesn't make it any different. JayO gave you the best advice first and you chose to take offense to it. JayO than gave you his reasoning for his first post and again you shot it down. Why ?upgrading to a larger machine would be the only real choice.  You mentioned you want a spool gun, Well the only reason for a spool gun is for welding aluminum which that little welder just wont do. Also by changing one component will only over load another one. These are just common sense. Don't insult members here just because they tell you things you don't want to hear. Not one reply was over the line even the ones that were a bit on the funny side.
Reply:If you're "welding" 1/8" aluminum with a 70A mig and a propane torch, I'd hang on to that little sucker.To be honest, for a guy who claims to have welded for 16 years (initial post said you started at 14, profile says you're 30 now), I would have expected a more reasonable post.I sure would like to see some photos of 1/8" aluminum welded with that setup.  Heck, if that's the case I can probably weld 1/2" aluminum with my HH187 and an O/A preheat.  I could then sell the thousands of dollars worth of equipment I use to weld aluminum.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:You came on a welding forum and asked a ? and sometimes the best answer is a short one, especially if you don't type very fast.  I'm not wrong with the answer I gave you and you are right about  "i thought this was a welders site i thought true welders build and improve thing with our own hands ... "and you have noted that you've used some trick to extend the capacity of the machine.  A true welder needs to count on his equipment and playing around reengineering a machine is not going to earn him anymore money vs going to get the right machine.  Theres have been post about modifing machines to get more out of them but I don't think it worth the effort/gain vs replacing it with a bigger machine and the pleasure of spending more quality time under the hood.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIIf you're "welding" 1/8" aluminum with a 70A mig and a propane torch, I'd hang on to that little sucker.To be honest, for a guy who claims to have welded for 16 years (initial post said you started at 14, profile says you're 30 now), I would have expected a more reasonable post.I sure would like to see some photos of 1/8" aluminum welded with that setup.  Heck, if that's the case I can probably weld 1/2" aluminum with my HH187 and an O/A preheat.  I could then sell the thousands of dollars worth of equipment I use to weld aluminum.
Reply:Originally Posted by Jay OYou came on a welding forum and asked a ? and sometimes the best answer is a short one, especially if you don't type very fast.  I'm not wrong with the answer I gave you and you are right about  "i thought this was a welders site i thought true welders build and improve thing with our own hands ... "and you have noted that you've used some trick to extend the capacity of the machine.  A true welder needs to count on his equipment and playing around reengineering a machine is not going to earn him anymore money vs going to get the right machine.  Theres have been post about modifing machines to get more out of them but I don't think it worth the effort/gain vs replacing it with a bigger machine and the pleasure of spending more quality time under the hood.Component heating is only one result of stressing the component, so just because you cooling it better doesn't mean your not damaging the components. And where the heck did you get the idea that O/A "contaminates" the aluminum and propane doesn't??
Reply:Just a point to raise regarding increasing airflow, or reducing the temp of the air, across a transformers surface. The Duty cycle that the machine is rated for takes into account the heat sinking ability and time required to dissapate heat from the CORE of the transformer. This will remain almost constant, even if you increase airflow, or lower the air temperature. It's the copper, the iron laminations, and insulating material between windings that dictate how fast the tranny will cool. This is directly related to the risk of shorted windings, which almost ALWAYS happen at or near the core.  Increasing airflow, and/or lowering the temperature of the air, will cool the outer areas of the transformer faster, and to a lower degree, but the core will still heat up to the danger zone for arcing regardless of the outer area temperature.In short, the ouside will definately be cooler. The inside will get just as hot, and if you exceed the rated duty cycle, the potential for damage will increase, as well as the risk of popping the internal thermal fuse. Liquid cooling might work, but the tranny has to be designed for such treatment. Air cooled trannys are not.-az-
Reply:Originally Posted by makoman1860Component heating is only one result of stressing the component, so just because you cooling it better doesn't mean your not damaging the components. And where the heck did you get the idea that O/A "contaminates" the aluminum and propane doesn't??
Reply:Originally Posted by assassin_worksa old timer that was master certified is the one that told me when he showed me how he had instructed me  on with aluminum brazing rods he told me that the hi levels of oxygen puts impurities in your weld and if you use it for heating it will leave deposits in the metal ill believe anyone that is master certified when it comes down to welding
Reply:Originally Posted by assassin_works ill believe anyone that is master certified when it comes down to welding
Reply:Yep, that's how I feel about it too. ^ ^ At least he's provided some 'entertainment' for us.  LMAO.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:dang who ever said that i was defending it i was just stating where i got my info from and i get *** remarks wow who looks like a bigger idiot now all of us were taught different but probably all the same basics  for the most and maybe a bunch of different trade secrets which are all pretty much have worked for us in one way or an other its like me i went to to school at UTI for automotive and hot rod technology i might be able to rebuild a tci 700r4 trany or build a 1000 hp Merlin big block with a 8.71 blower  running nitro meth  as well it might be rocket science to you where it would be common sense to me where my level of welding is i do it out of  my home and mainly for the enjoyment where for you its a career and you know more about it than me so plz dont criticize cause we all have our own professional level of knowledge
Reply:Would you happen to own a Miller Roughneck 2E or know usa-068?MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55Would you happen to own a Miller Roughneck 2E or know usa-068?
Reply:I was asking you hence posting right after you w/o hitting 'quote'.Just curious as you looked familiar.  That's all.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:its kool i wasnt sure who you were asking hope idnt sound rude
Reply:This reminds me of a friend several years back who bought a bottom of the line 6 cylinder camaro and then had visions of adding nitro to improve performance.I suggested he should have bought a car with a bigger engine to begin with.  He didn't like my suggestion. Assassin_works,My suggestion to you is to save your money and buy a more capable welder that will do what you want right out of the box.  Keep your little welder for the small stuff (or sell it).
Reply:I do say joe i do value you response. All the big stuff i use my stick welder and the lite stuff i use my wire feed. But there is times like now that in building a trailer and it involves a lot of sheet metal i need the wire feed more. So yes i do  need a bigger one but I've seen many internet post about mods so i was just curious if anyone has really succeeded in one. But once again thanks for you response.