What I did this afternoon - generator running gear

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The day started off kinda slow and then I went out to take a stab at cleaning my shop.  I've been telling my neighbor I'd fix up the wheels he tried to put on the 6.3K Winco/Kohler generator that someone gave him a couple years ago - that I got running for him back then - and told him yesterday "let's do it this weekend".  So this afternoon he came over and we got it done.I forgot to take a before shot so you'll have to use your imagination but the two 1/2" axle rods he used with the old lawn mower wheels were wired onto the generator frame and as you can guess, the axles didn't like to stay put when trying to pull it across the yard to the house hook-up point.There are 9 photos so the first 5 will be on this post and the other 4 immediately after.  I apologize for the 2 close-up shots as I didn't realize the camera was focused in on the trailer frame (yes, my trailer project) below it.  Photos are:1) Bare frame with 1x1x3/16 angle clips for axle mounts2) Generator/motor removed from frame3) Frame with axle mounts installed4) Out of focus close-up 15) Out of focus close-up 2MM200Voltage: High/2Wire speed: 30Wire: .030C25: 20 Attached ImagesMM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Post #2Next project is to build him a better handle to tug it around with.  That's what the chain and 'handle' is he has wrapped around the frame.1) Generator shot 12) Generator shot 23) Generator shot 34) Original pile of wire that 'held' axles to generator frame Attached ImagesMM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:he sure should be happy with that. And the genset should be happy too. I can see where if it's all smooth rolling it would be nice to have a higher handle. The low ones are great for a tug and nudge but tough on the old back if you have far to go.
Reply:Out of focus #4 and #5....  Hell, that's how I see when I'm trying to use the wire welder these days.  The arc is so dim that I can't see what's goin' on with the bead.Thought about going down to a #8 shade, but I'm not keen on ruining what eyesight I have left.Saw the HF cherry picker.  Oh please don't say it's so.  You've gone over to the other side"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammOut of focus #4 and #5....  Hell, that's how I see when I'm trying to use the wire welder these days.  The arc is so dim that I can't see what's goin' on with the bead.Thought about going down to a #8 shade, but I'm not keen on ruining what eyesight I have left.Saw the HF cherry picker.  Oh please don't say it's so.  You've gone over to the other side
Reply:Originally Posted by Sandyhe sure should be happy with that. And the genset should be happy too. I can see where if it's all smooth rolling it would be nice to have a higher handle. The low ones are great for a tug and nudge but tough on the old back if you have far to go.
Reply:Just ribin' ya.  I have the clone in the shop.  I had to have a cherry picker to mount the milling machine.  It was there, I needed it, and I had to buy it.I was able to buy a domestic hyd. press.  It's an Arcan.  But the 20t jack is foriegn made.  I have never seen a foriegn jack that doesn't start kicking back on you when you push it to the limit.  The handle starts going up on its own.  They don't seem to be able to make a reliable overload valve.  After the overload, the jack's history.High handle, low handle, or harness and a yoke?."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:You answered my question before I posted itSlow fingers  Slow mind "Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55He seemed pretty happy and it rolls real nice - now.I've got a swivel type T handle planned where I'll cut the top cross bar off and slide an appropriate ID pipe over it and weld the cross bar back on then weld a 12-14" T-bar on the pipe so it can swing down out of the way and 'float' while pulling it around.  That'll put it about where his chain and handle is right now.  The alternator end is the lightest so I'll put the handle on that end to make it easier for him (he's in his late 70's) to maneuver.
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55I hear ya on the out of focus.  Thinking very seriously about getting a cheater lens for the hood because my glasses get 'rained' on inside the hood and then I really can't see.  I've used a #8 lens for years in a 'head bobber' and turn my auto down to the lowest setting of 9 on a regular basis.  It's just always been that way for me.
Reply:Not only was he tough, he was dumb. Those infra-red rays will get you every time. Takes years and does't hurt but it's happening. I used to work with a guy like that and we car pooled on a 90 mile round trip. His driving, especially at night, would scare the hell out of you because he was half blind.
Reply:Well, two hurricanes and several other interruptions later I was able to finish up my neighbors' generator project by putting the swivel 'T' handle on today - after fixing his protable air compressor, splicing his air hose and fixing his saws-all.  Again, I'll be posting more photos than casn fit in one post so there'll be five in this one and five more in a second.1) Owners original handle2) Drilling out 'swivel' tube to 7/8" to fit over crosstube3) Crosstube, swivel tube and stop clips4) Swivel tube and handle beam fit-up5) 'T' handle assembly ready for weldingFive more in the next post. Attached ImagesMM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Post #21) Swivel tube weld-up2) 'T' handle weld-up3) Stop clip weld-up4) New swivel handle in low position5) New swivel handle in upper position.Generator pulls - and pushes - quite nicely.  'T' is wide enough on each side to install handle grips should he want to add them.  I'll leave any painting up to him. Attached ImagesMM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Hey, he should be like a kid with a new red wagon now. About a 225% improvement over what he had.
Reply:Nice fix I bet he likes it now.pro-level dumpster diver                                     Hobart 125EZ
Reply:Thanks guys.  He wasn't home yesterday when I put it back in his shop - along with his repaired air compressor and air hose.  Told me today he was more than happy with it and liked how easy it is to move around now.  It was a project that I really had fun doing.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:MAN, HOW DID YOU DO THAT??  Every time I've tried to enlarge a hole with a 2 flute bit it winds up grabbin' on me, and stuff goes flyin'.That's a great job.  I hope you get borrowin' rights."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Something that close to the desired dia. and only the shoulder of the bit cuts.  Not like following a pilot hole.  Maybe I'm running too slow when I try it.I do allright when I'm following a hole that's not much bigger than the dead center of the bit.  Otherwise it's grabby as hell.Used to be able to buy 4 flute bits to enlarge holes.  Don't seem to be available anymore.Last edited by farmersamm; 09-29-2008 at 01:43 AM.Reason: 4 flute bits"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Slooooooow and easy.  Sharp drill helped but it still grabbed a time or two.  Piece is 4" long so I went half way from both directions.  It went well but wasn't without its challenges to say the least.Got two electron pushers of my own and building a third so I shouldn't have to borrow his but could if I needed to.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Your setup must have been darn near perfect.  Great job.  I would have been mumblin' obsenities, and huntin' for a reamer."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Nice one, handle drops down out of the way nicely but is still easily retrieved when it's time to roll again.Good call on the painting too."One of the things we have to be thankful for is that we don't get as much government as we pay for." (Charles Kettering)Mitch 180 (NZ)Lincoln SAM-400-220 + ?-400 Fordson Major + 2 x Tractapac Humber 80 + Procut 40 PlasmaMiller Spectrum 375
Reply:What, no bearings or at least oil-lite bushings?  Clean, neat, functional.    The best laid schemes ... Gang oft agley ...