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First stage of new implement complete.  This is designed to push, and buck, cedar trees while keeping the tree at arms length from expensive tractor stuff.  (Windows, hyd. lines, and me)Length 6'.  Total distance from cab when mounted 9'.  Total lift 6' at the hinges.  The alternative was to build a grapple for the front end loader.  An option I didn't care to take.  Would have meant building a heavy radiator/cowling shield for the front of the tractor.  More weight on the front, and of little use otherwise in daily operations.Second stage will be a set of forks and uprights, attached to the hinge at the rear.  This will be articulated to some degree.  I figure a 3 1/2 x 12 hyd. cyl. should be adequate for the load, and swing, that I want.Square, and level (planar for ya fancy folks:) without jigs, fixtures, or a level playing field.  Southern engineerin' at its zenithLast pic in the set demonstrates how I sight in a piece of equipment.  I don't use levels, or other stuff.  Sight across structural members, and ya's good to go.  Use air gaps between members, or tops of members as your reference.  The eye is pretty accurate.  Sorta kinda an Okie transit Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:nice job, cheaper than a dozer. i guess ya cut fence posts out of the cedar trees? or you just clearing out some new pasture.
Reply:New pasture.85 an hour for a dozer, and they tear the place up.  Nothing but weeds grow after their done.  They ruin the native grass.I have a guy that shears trees for 40 an hour but he can't move 'em.  The grapple I built, and this thing will allow me to work with him and keep up a good hourly cut rate."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:i could of used your idea a while back. cutting cedar trees real close together, course they had a hard time falling in the right direction being right next to each other. bent a couple of chain saw bars
Reply:Samm,I hope your neck's in better shape than mine. I couldn't take that many hours lookin' over my shoulder!!! That is mighty good Okie engineering. A guy just has to make do with what ya got. I've shown a lot of folks how to use my water level and they're amazed at how accurate it is. I just tell them a liquid,no matter the container,exposed to atmospheric pressure will always seek it's own level.                                  MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusSamm,I hope your neck's in better shape than mine. I couldn't take that many hours lookin' over my shoulder!!! That is mighty good Okie engineering. A guy just has to make do with what ya got. I've shown a lot of folks how to use my water level and they're amazed at how accurate it is. I just tell them a liquid,no matter the container,exposed to atmospheric pressure will always seek it's own level.                                  Mike
Reply:Is that tractor Oliver green?
Reply:Originally Posted by flatbustedbrokeIs that tractor Oliver green?
Reply:It's the only real green there is. We farmed for a long time with a super 55. 2 rows at a time that tractor finely had to be retired not that it quit we just felt that we were doing all that work for nothing that was the mid 80s prices were so low we saved money by not planting as it cost more to plant than you got at harvest. Glad to see someone that appreciates a real tractor.
Reply:i like that dog. you dont see the Camera hounds very often.insert thoughtful quote from someone else2000 Thermal Arc 300GTSW 3.5 hours1946 Monarch 20 x 54 Lathe1998 Supermax 10x54 Mill2004 Haco Atlantic 1/2" Capacity Lasernot mine but i get to play with it
Reply:Originally Posted by chenryi like that dog. you dont see the Camera hounds very often.
Reply:Runs circles around JD greenGlad to see someone that appreciates a real tractorI can tell you guys aren't from the widwest. They make JD 9000 series tractors about 4 miles from my house. I always though that was a real tractor. Of course, someone has to be different.
Reply:Originally Posted by rat4spdRuns circles around JD greenGlad to see someone that appreciates a real tractorI can tell you guys aren't from the widwest. They make JD 9000 series tractors about 4 miles from my house. I always though that was a real tractor. Of course, someone has to be different.
Reply:Probably assembled from parts made in China, Bolivia, Samoa, Chile, .................................................. ...Shhhhhhhh.....If you can keep a secret, I won't say anything either.....that's globalization for you....
Reply:Anyways, I hear the old Olivers are still held in pretty high esteem up in Wisconson, and Minnesota, as well as certain other places North of here.Quality knows no geographical boundaries"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by rat4spdProbably assembled from parts made in China, Bolivia, Samoa, Chile, .................................................. ...Shhhhhhhh.....If you can keep a secret, I won't say anything either.....that's globalization for you....
Reply:On a side note, about globalization, JD has a small tractor, 2320, it's a 4wd 24hp diesel, that I'd like to get if we get another 60 inches of snow, but it's not even a JD, it's a........Yanmar.I still like it though, fairly affordable.You just don't see much of anything other than JD green around here. I think you do have to get out of the state to find other manufacturers.But I also think quality was a sign of the times. A lot of those old tractors regardless of brand are still around. They just made quality stuff back then for the most part.
Reply:You're probably right.  If mine were built today it wouldn't be any better than anything else out there."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:If you want more Olivers there are plenty of them here in Misery I mean Missouri
Reply:Ever tried a hydraulic top link? They add heaps of flexibility and fine adjustment over raising and lowering the plough arms."One of the things we have to be thankful for is that we don't get as much government as we pay for." (Charles Kettering)Mitch 180 (NZ)Lincoln SAM-400-220 + ?-400 Fordson Major + 2 x Tractapac Humber 80 + Procut 40 PlasmaMiller Spectrum 375
Reply:Originally Posted by TractapacEver tried a hydraulic top link? They add heaps of flexibility and fine adjustment over raising and lowering the plough arms.
Reply:I purchased a hydraulic top link, mainly for using a boxblade, but found it quite nice for use with the boom pole and even the brush hog. Nice to be able to adjust your top link on the fly and it gave me that much more range of motion on the boom pole.EdEdKing
Reply:Glad you  got a picture up, Samm. I was curious what it was going to be. Your right about eyeball engineering and I've done a lot of it. I always carry a couple of levels though. Even have one that lets the vial turn in a circle. That way everything is level.  Actually it's pretty handy for things that are sloped other than a 45.I never could figure out why that green and yellow paint JD uses costs so much more than other colors. Years ago I bought a riding mower from Sears. A few weeks later I happened to be in the JD store and there were a bungh of riding mowers displayed. Seeing one that resembled my Craftsman I walked over and gave it a close examination. It was the same mower except for two things. The color of the paint and the price which was just twice as much as the Sears.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammOH YEAH.  Built in 64' and still can put in a good day.  Runs circles around JD green
Reply:I can't understand why the dog isn't more impressed with your work. Sort of gives the impression this is nothing you should have seen what he did last time.Originally Posted by farmersammI looked at one on Ebay, and it looked like it might go at a reasonable price.  Might put a bid on it.
Reply:take a peek at this future welding project on my agenda. it's a tree shear i saw on ebay. supposed to handle 6" trees. Attached Images