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Here's the facts; I own a marine repair business and rent space in a marina. 220 volt outlet is no where near where my small shop/trailer is, plus I like the fact of being at no ones mercy if possible.. Most of my welding repairs will be on steel boat trailers and fabricating and repairing any of my own equipment/tools, trucks, golf carts etc and will be done outside. What size generator do you need to run a 220 volt stick machine? I assume stick cause I've been told migs don't weld well outside. Does anyone make a small 220v gas machine or will a good 115 volt machine do the job and run it off a genny? My current generator is a Honda eu2000 and I'm thinking of buying a 2nd along with a paralell kit to link them together. Thanks in advance. This site looks real informative.Matt
Reply:you need to look at inverter machines as they use much less current than older and heavy transformer machines. 2nd if you dont have much experience welding ( which I am guessing by your questions) don't be welding on trailers if you value your business not to mention putting other peoples safety at risk. I doubt your business insurance covers trailer welding. Hit up the search bar too. there are quite a few smaller gen/welder combo units out there. you can run a flux core mig machine outside as it is self shielded and no weld shielding gas to blow away.you are going to need at least 5000 watts continous to run a 22 welder. the 175 class machines need about 20-25 ampsLast edited by soutthpaw; 07-05-2011 at 02:06 AM.Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Thanks for the quick response. My experience in welding takes me back to the mid 80's and earlier. I used a Lincoln 220 buzzbox for quite a while. Never used a mig. Trailers would be minor stuff like light or roller brackets, fenders etc. I would never put my reputation at stake ever.Safety is #1.
Reply:google the term welder/generator and you will find quite a few smaller units, of course Craigslist is always a good place to look for them too...several of the inverters inRick V's thread are 115v and then you would not even need a generator, a couple will auto switch 110 220.here is another one http://products.esabna.com/EN/home/a...tegory_id.1743Last edited by soutthpaw; 07-05-2011 at 02:54 AM.Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:To run a Lincoln "buzzbox" stick machione you will need at least a 8KW genset to get partial output. To get full power on that buzzbox you'll need closer to a 10-12KW genset since that machine needs 50 amps at 230v input. Same applies with most buzzboxes. As mentioned you can run one of the smaller inverter based stick machines off about 1/2 the generator capasity. They usually need about 20-22 amps at 230v input putting you in roughly the 5KW genset range. There are a few inverters that will run on 115v power. The good units are usually pretty expensive, more so than the 230v only ones since they usually run either115v or 230v. The cheaper 115v units don't have the balls to run more than 1/16"- 5/64" rods usually and are not worth the money. There are also any number of smaller dedicated generator welders that will do stick very nicely, I see older models listed quite inexpensively on CL all the time.FC wire is very similar to stick and can be used outdoors. You still probably want to look at a machine that needs 230v input however. That will again mean you need roughly a 5KW gen set or larger. The largest of the small 115v FC/migs will top out at welding 1/8" material under real world conditions. While it will work for what you want, it's pushing the limits of the machine and 115v mig/ FC machines are notorious for making pretty welds that are weak if they are used on too thick a material..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:i doubt the inverter will run right off a basic," dirty output" generator ..check with the inverter mfr.you can find a used gasengine welder for $1000 that will deposit more weld than you want, and tigweld steel...and give you 8kw of 220 power if you need it...
Reply:You'll want to have a read thru this thread:http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ight=generatorThe maxstar is an excellent machine. Or you could look for a used Bobcat, Trailblazer, Ranger etc. as weldbead recommended. Here's a link to a new machine for reference:http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...p?model=M00185Older models can be had for $500 to $2000 and sound like just what you need.XMT 350 MPA Dynasty 280DXSuitcase 8RC / OptimaSpoolmatic 30AThermco Ar / C02 mixerAssorted O/A gear
Reply:I just bought a Solter IconPro 2070 Digicell which puts out 180 amps at max, 140amps 100% duty cycle, capable of running celulosic and aluminum rods, arc-force controll and yes, it does run out of a generator of at least 8kW.... I bet there are other inverters out there generator compatible. They might not be the cheapest though....Good luck!Mikel
Reply:One totally different approach is the Hobart Trek 180. It is a MIG welder that runs on 110AC, but puts out more power than most 110V welders because it has a battery. 180 amps with flux core wire is probably enough to weld on brackets, etc.Similarly, one could use a Readywelder with batteries. (MIG spoolgun). With three 12 volt batteries it will weld very thick metal.The advantage of both of those solutions is that you don't need a generator, gasoline, etc., just take advantage of 110V to run battery chargers. Since you are in and around your shop, a small cart would make them easy to move around.If you want to stick to stick welding, I vote for a used generator/welder, as others have mentioned.RichardSculptures in copper and other metalshttp://www.fergusonsculpture.comSyncrowave 200 Millermatic 211Readywelder spoolgunHypertherm 600 plasma cutterThermal Arc GMS300 Victor OA torchHomemade Blacksmith propane forge
Reply:Appreciate the info. I'd like to find a good used unit with $1000 being the limit. I looked on Craigslist and saw a few Lincoln WeldanPower gen/welder combos. I see there are other options mentioned and I'll look into.ThanksMatt
Reply:Been doin lots of reading and research. Looks like a welder/genny combo might be the best route. Most all work will be outside, and wind or a breeze are a problem with gas, so I'm thinkin Stick now with a Mig option. Lookin at Lincoln's Bulldog 5500 AC and Outback 145 DC units. Opinions/options on this? AC welder or DC? I would rather spend a few more bucks now and have what I need .ThanksMatt
Reply:my old ranger 8 makes 225 amps of acdc stick and 8kw gennie..
Reply:I like my Weldanpower 225. Works well, Ez to use and even though it is older (mid 80s) it seems very dependable. It has 6500Watts of power from the Gen side which has been useful out on the ranchita away from the barn. With leads in good shape I got it for $650 here.ZyPeng. EAT sh** and dieLincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools |
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