Welding a "puck lock"

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Hello all, some big wigs at work got the drift that I can weld, they want to weld short lengths of chain onto the backside of pucklocks that they have on the vans....you know, two pieces on either door of the van, and a "puck" style lock....A bunch of guys put them on the bumpers and drive off....45 bucks down the tubes....Problem being is when you try to weld it, it just blows craters in it, and no beading.....what the heck is this stuff made of....????? Hardened steel, stainless......I'm stumped.Miller blue star 2eLincoln 175
Reply:I'm stumped.
Reply:Originally Posted by FearcityINC...they want to weld short lengths of chain onto the backside of pucklocks that they have on the vans.......Problem being is when you try to weld it, it just blows craters in it, and no beading...
Reply:Drill & tap . . . thread in small ring with red locktite . . . attach to hasp body via cable . . .Millermatic® 251
Reply:Or, make the drivers pay for the locks? Hmmm.... what a concept-- responsibility. Nah.... it'll never catch on
Reply:Originally Posted by TEKOr, make the drivers pay for the locks? Hmmm.... what a concept-- responsibility. Nah.... it'll never catch on
Reply:1st off....yes it is ferrous...think I'm gonna tell them the tapping idea...Thanks!!!2nd....Zap, is there a little bit of sarcasm in your post.....I'm a little surprised at that Sorry, I dont have a camera, therefore no pics...If I described an A@@Hole, would a picture be needed for that?Seems like this place is starting to Sh#t all over the novice lately...........Not the old weldingweb I'm used to.Miller blue star 2eLincoln 175
Reply:Wow, Zapster. It must be hell going through life without the ability or sense  to search Google.
Reply:just for zap...   http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...-8&sa=N&tab=wipurely a guess but i'd imagine the locks are made from a VERY hard steel alloy. no point in making a lock out of a softer, easily worked and welded material as they need to be difficult to tamper with
Reply:Originally Posted by Matt SWow, Zapster. It must be hell going through life without the ability or sense  to search Google.
Reply:I'm too lazy to google everything in life..Excuse me.. ...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:By the way..I never claimed to be an expert in everything under the sun..Sorry I never heard of a hockey puck lock..We all have our faults..One day I'll bring yours to life..Dont get me started.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by FearcityINCHello all, some big wigs at work got the drift that I can weld, they want to weld short lengths of chain onto the backside of pucklocks that they have on the vans....you know, two pieces on either door of the van, and a "puck" style lock....A bunch of guys put them on the bumpers and drive off....45 bucks down the tubes....Problem being is when you try to weld it, it just blows craters in it, and no beading.....what the heck is this stuff made of....????? Hardened steel, stainless......I'm stumped.
Reply:Originally Posted by Joe HSince when are we expected to search the internet to help answer other people's questions?
Reply:Before you stick your foot in your mouth any deeper Mat S...Why don't you post a pic of a weld or something so we can all see how good you are......zap!Last edited by zapster; 11-06-2007 at 10:00 PM.I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:getting back to the topic, i just looked at one that my parents have. it is chrome plated and has the term "HARDENED" across the "bolt" (i'm not sure if that's the correct term... the part that moves). i'm not 100% positive that it's chrome plated across the bolt, but it's a lot shiny-er than the rest of the lock. the housing has been stamped with "STAINLESS STEEL" on both sides. the key is brobably brass/bronze and the internals seem to be brass/bronze also. hope that helps.later,Andy
Reply:Those locks look interesting, haven seen one my self but it strikes  me that they are made to rather close tolerances and don't have much room to tap into.Welding may distort them?What about a    -l_l- (that didn't come out right ) shaped bracket on the door next to the lock to conveniently put puck into , at worst if you drive off the puck wont be lost?A good guess is better than a bad measurement
Reply:I have welded both those locks and there brackets on for people with 7018. No problems on either end, BTW they were Master brand.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Hope you're still checking this thread.  Perhaps, have the locks made so the key is a "captive key".  These worked well at the gun club I used to be a member of.  Here's a short on how they work.Lock is opened with the key, but remains unlocked and the key stays in the lock until it is relocked.You can't get your key back unless the lock is returned to its locked condition and then the key comes out.The only drawback is the driver locking the lock and removing the key and placing it on the back bumper.  Otherwise, the key stays in the lock and the driver has to lock the lock back before getting it out to continue.
Reply:Geez....you guys are great....sorry to start a little tiff, but yes, I thought I was getting crapped on just a little bit....As far as everyone that posted in a positive way...KUDOS, you guys rock!!!Tozzi, 7018 huh....I must admit, didnt even try that, went from flux core, right to blumax (stainless smaw)....should probably have tried that first. Brett, I thought about that too, a little lock holder...if you will.People have to remember, not everyone is a certifed, underwater boilermaking, nuclear heliarc, 5p open butt, oxygen lancing, welder.some of us just like the smell of melting metal, sparks, heat, and seeing something, emerge from nothing.....some of us would give a toe to get a job as a welder, but some things are holding us back...............Think about your apprentices, and people that envy what you do!!Miller blue star 2eLincoln 175