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"Yes, I wonder if you could have a look at my trailer?" Oh sure, sure."I hate to blame road hazards; it's so...cliche'." How so?"Well, it handles badly."I'll give you that. We should check the air in the tires."Really, that simple?"Sometimes you just never know.Hmmm, this could be a clue... So when did you notice that it wasn't quite right?"It was kind of right after we @#$!%^%$@#$!@&*^&^(%$)"Tutt, tutt, tutt...mmmmHmm. I see.Why don't we get a set of X-rays? "X-rays!? Of a trailer!?" Meh, it couldn't hurt. Do you have an extended warranty? "No" Nevermind, it was just a thought...City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:I don't get it.   Maybe a little backround would help?My name's not Jim....
Reply:wow that must have been quite a road hazard
Reply:Did you ask him if the last weldor, and I'm using that word lightly, knew how to spell "fishplate" or "replace frame rail(s)"????                                            MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Obviously not the first time he overloaded the unit.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:A lot of this kinda thing is more a case of the 'chicken or the egg'. Was the trailer too light or was the load too heavy? I see these contractors set a pallet of concrete bolcks on the tail end because it'll be easier to unload by hand that way. Or the ones you see a lot of lately are skid steers & mini-excavators setting on utility trailers. Folks never look at the structure of a trailer cuzz they'd have to get down and get dirty to do that. They only look at the deck to see if it's big enough to haul whatever they want to put on there.
Reply:You're right, Sandy. I saw a guy yesterday pulling a tandem axle tlr w/ a Toyota Tacoma. He went the other way and put about a half ton of sacked corn on the front of the tlr and was probably wondering why the p/u was steering funny. The way the p/u was squatted down he couldn't have had much weight on the front tires.                              MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmI don't get it.   Maybe a little backround would help?
Reply:Come on now guys. If it werent for things like this we would be out of business. Ever wonder what all them welds are doing that we made back in the learning years. Hope I didnt kill anybody. Harold
Reply:Went over my head...Dynasty 200DXNo MIG as of yet....
Reply:I wish I had a picture of the nice set-up I saw going down the road a month or so ago. Small SUV like a Ford Freestyle with Canadian plates so it wasn't just a trip around the block, towing about a 22 foot camping trailer, had a nice weight distribution hitch with torsion bars and all. The problem was they only had one of those class two hitch that are 1 inch square I think so they had the distribution hitch in an adapter to neck it down to 1 inch to fit the receiver, looked like an accident waiting to happen.“Life is not a journey to the grave with intentions of arriving safely in a pretty well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming ... WOW! What a ride!”
Reply:I don't see anything wrong with it; looks like a perfect farm implement to me (no offense to the farm implement owners intended)...Welds look a lot like mine, but I can't count that high and stop at two (one for each tooth!)...If he was a professunal, he'd've (yes, that's a technically correct contraction!) painted it flat black to hide all errors, miscalculations, previous damage, and cellulite...Scary, to say the least, but I've seen worse, and been proposed to with worse...
Reply:Originally Posted by bigwhitebeastI wish I had a picture of the nice set-up I saw going down the road a month or so ago. Small SUV like a Ford Freestyle with Canadian plates so it wasn't just a trip around the block, towing about a 22 foot camping trailer, had a nice weight distribution hitch with torsion bars and all. The problem was they only had one of those class two hitch that are 1 inch square I think so they had the distribution hitch in an adapter to neck it down to 1 inch to fit the receiver, looked like an accident waiting to happen.
Reply:The solution is more leaves in the spring, that must have been banging really hard.  Oops you have to replace the bearings with better ones, Oops you'd have to replace the spindles, Oops you need better rim and rubber.It would be quicker to get the right size trailer.  It's much easier than educating the trailer user.
Reply:I think I have had those thoughts before RancherBill!I knew the patch had to go, it was all of an inch wide and 3 inches high. The break had to be cleaned out, but I had no desire to clean it up well enough to migweld. As soon as I picked up the sagging corner with the floorjack, it broke free. Then it was a no brainer to torch out the bad edges and the patch.So now it had to be aligned with a straight edge clamped on top, but it also had to be pulled tight together.That got me in the zone close enough to tack at the top outside corner with 6010.Ok, my tack was more of a full weld across the top flange, but I knew it stand up to the alignment that was still needed. That's why the bottlejack came out. The floorjack alone was not enough to flatten the whole corner.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny