Hood glare

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What do you outdoor pros do to stop the glare from the sun, on the inside of your hood? I can't stand when the A/D goes dark and then ya can't see the puddle because you're looking at yourself inside your hood! My buddy just picked up a Tillman leather square which clips on the front bottom to keep the arc rays off your neck. But I think that would be a PITA on top."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:pancake hood. http://pancakehelmets.com/  Im sure plenty of guys on here could add a few more links to other makers.
Reply:I usually adjust my angle so the sun isn't shining into the back of my shield.  Another welder I knew stapled a fire-resistant rag to the top of his shield so that it laid across the back of his head/shield and blocked the glare.Citizen, what keeps sparks from finding the joint between your forehead and the goggle part of those helmets and laying in there and burning your forehead?  Something I've always wondered about with that style of shield.
Reply:I dont think there are too many people using pancake hoods without a welding cap....... and usually, you sand out the contours so it fits your particular face shape. Alot of guys line the contact surfaces with deerskin or similar.... Speaking of welding caps, I seriously do not understand how so many people weld without them. Martin Brothers makes a really nice deep crown cap that will cover your ear tips and neck really well.
Reply:Yeah, Its a real problem for me too and I'm just in a welding booth, not even outdoors.This was my solution. Works very well although it probably looks stupid. Not that I really care. Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by citizen smithI dont think there are too many people using pancake hoods without a welding cap....... and usually, you sand out the contours so it fits your particular face shape. Alot of guys line the contact surfaces with deerskin or similar....
Reply:I have done the same to mine as you can see from the photos, however I have added the miller fresh air system and a auto dark lens to this hood.I am not real concerned how it looks as long as it works and it does. mine is riveted in place but sill easy to remove and redo if needed. Attached Images
Reply:I loathe welding with the sun behind me. You kinda gotta deal with it - and as you mentioned, the autodarks will F you on that. I tilt my head around to see if I can block the glare. Every now and then, like welding bent plate I can just spin around and viola, I can see the puddle again. In the winter my hoodie is usually filling that gap up so its not such a problem.Weldanpower 225 G7Ironworkers Local #24
Reply:Ron Padilla,Man, that's a bad a$$ solution you've got there. I like yours better. I'll keep that in mind when it comes time to get a better helmet.Just wondering though...What's that antenna in the corner used for? E.
Reply:That is for a screw driver hi freq ham antena, it is the top half the bottom is always on the truck.  I think the skins are from goat it is much softer than cow hide.
Reply:Those are great ideas. I like that you can remove it. Where do you get leather and HD snaps? Would any fabric store have them?"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Originally Posted by Ron PadillaI have done the same to mine as you can see from the photos, however I have added the miller fresh air system and a auto dark lens to this hood.I am not real concerned how it looks as long as it works and it does. mine is riveted in place but sill easy to remove and redo if needed.
Reply:Actually I just found them online, looks like they are down to 106 stores across north America now.http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/home.aspx
Reply:A source for the heavy duty snaps is your local auto upholstery shop.  They use them for boat stuff and truck covers.  They might also have the leather.  If you live close to a saddle shop they are a good source for leather scraps.I bought a cheap leather jacket (bad stain on the arm, they only asked for a $2.00 donation) at the thrift store and cut the back out for my hood.  I made a chin piece as well while I was at it.RogerOld, Tired, and GRUMPYSalesman will call, Batteries not included, Assembly is required, and FREE ADVICE IS WORTH EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAY FOR IT!Dial Arc 250HFThunderbolt 225 AC/DCAssorted A/O torches
Reply:Yeah, Tandy Leather online is a great source for this kind of thing. One issue with the leather snaps is that they're a two piece design with the rivet incorporated into one half of the snap. You need a setting anvil (just a quarter sized metal disk about 1/2" thick that has a concave dimple on one side) and a setting tool to round over the rivet. Tandy has the snaps in a kit form for around 5-10 dollars that includes the anvil and setter. Then, just drill like a 3/32" hole in the helmet where ever you want a snap. It literally took me 10 minutes to mount all the snaps.Hey Ron, I was into Amateur Radio for quite awhile but finally let my license expire. I thought that antenna was something like that.73Eric(Formerly - KB8WRV)
Reply:I still have the general level it has come in handy from time to time KI6PXF and 73's as well.
Reply:Originally Posted by Welding_SwedeYeah, Its a real problem for me too and I'm just in a welding booth, not even outdoors.This was my solution. Works very well although it probably looks stupid. Not that I really care.
Reply:I wear a beanie or welding cap but I really like the idea of the covers that fasten to the hoods that I see here.Seems like every time I skip putting on the cap something finds its way onto the top of my head.  The worst is when the grind is sending a spark stream up into the air over me and I suddenly feel a bunch of hot little buggers land in a cloud on my balding head!Hobart LX235Victor 250 Oxy-Acetylene Rig (welding and cutting)Bobcat 773F-350, 1999, 4x4, 16' 10K# trailerOutdoor Wood Burner - 10 cords/year
Reply:Originally Posted by Welding_SwedeI was into Amateur Radio for quite awhile but finally let my license expire.
Reply:why not just go down to you local lws and buy a $10 cape for a set of Tillman leather sleeves that already has the female half of snaps installed and just put males half of same size snaps on your hood to match the spacing. small size for pin heads and xxxl for fat heads225NT bobcatAEAD200LEScott 125mm175, mm252 w 30A, PT225mm211, TA 181iHyper Therm 380, cut master 529100X & XX, Digital Elite6 Victor setssmith little torch, meco midget kalamazoo band sawsteel max saw evoulution circular saw
Reply:the piece of leather that i bought to go on the bottom of my hood has velcro to hold it on.  i haven't put it on yet, but it seems to be pretty strong (for velcor, that is).  i don't see why this wouldn't work fro the top of the hood  as well.  it is a tillman brand and was $3.
Reply:Just an update. I went to Joann fabrics and bought some snaps. Well, they're not long enough to go thru the thick plastic of my hood. So, now I have to find heavy duty snaps."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:I had to  duct tapes a piece of an old green welding jacket to avoid the glare. The velcro would not stick to the leather and I could not find snaps. I might look for them again thaks for the tipsDave ReberWadsworth Ohio
Reply:Why bother with snaps?  Is there some reason to remove the leather?  I just put mine on (on the inside) with 3/16 rivets.  Helps keep any stray spatter from going into my head as well and since it is under the lip of the helmet  instead of on the outside with these snaps, such spatter just rolls off instead of into my hair.