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I have ranger engine drive 250 gxt. I am looking to start out building my tig operation onto this unit. My plan is to start out learning with DC and buy the torch etc and then eventually buy the high freq. tig module from lincoln and foot pedal etc. I have a guy telling me that this set up will never weld as good on aluminum as a stand alone unit etc. I will never buy a pure tig setup from miller lincoln because of the cost. Also he said using the dc scratch start on the engine drive would suck. Almost made it sound like a waste of money. He has the entire scratch start set up with wp17v, lug, valve etc. for $200. $200 is not alot of money to me but I dont like to waste it either. What are your thoughts on scratch start and then the lincoln tig module for ac high freq vs spending $2000 on a standalone high freq chinese tig set up. I read through a lot of old threads I just though I might get some new perspectives.
Reply:Depends a lot on what you want to do. If you need a portable engine driven tig, then that probably is a good way to go. I wouldn't probably choose this option for shop use unless you rarely need to use a tig.You will get more advanced functions from a dedicated tig unit. AC balance control, pulse, Pre and post flow control, possibly frequency control with an inverter and so on. Also you don't have to listen to that ranger run every time you want to use the tig, and burn up hours on the machine.Not quite sure what you mean when you say you won't buy a dedicated tig due to the costs. I think the cost of the tig module plus the cost of the torch and pedal will come close to what you would pay for an entry level AC/DC tig from Lincoln/Miller/Thermal Arc. Used you could get a Syncrowave 180/200 with more options, for probably 1/2 to 2/3rds the price the whole set up for that Ranger would cost new. Go with an older tig unit like the 330 AB/P Zap has and you can probably get the whole shop rig for $500-800 and be a match for anything that set up on the Ranger would do. All this is assuming you want a shop tig, not a portable set up.If you simply want to do DC tig, there's no reason the basic rig won't suit your needs for most things. Eliminate the Tig module and costs go way down. Not 100% sure if the Ranger is like the Trailblazer where the pedal plugs directly into the engine drive or not for remote amperage control. My guess is it probably does. That means the tig module would just get you alum for the most part.A better idea just what you have in mind for this would help..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:yes i think a pedal will plug into the GXT I think that is one of the features that makes it the xt "extra".
Reply:Depends on his setup, but $200.00 seems high to me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/TIG-Torch-SR...item27b9de4813http://www.ebay.com/itm/Argon-CO2-Mi...item2ea4d917c5http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=3763Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Katcracker,I have been experimenting and learning scratch-start TIG with my Thunderbolt. It is a lot of fun and while no where near as good as a dedicated TIG machine, I am learning the basics of puddle control, feeding the rod, and maintaining the arc. If you're trying to learn on a budget go for it, but if your long-term objective is to offer TIG as part of your welding business, then I would go for a used TIG machine.Burt _____________________Miller Syncrowave 250Millermatic 211Miller 375 Plasma Cutter Hobart Handler 12010FtDrillBit.com
Reply:Your engine drive welder will do a great job at scratch start dc tig welding. No reason why it wont. I strictly use scratch start dc tig on my idealarc stick welder and it does a good job. Like you said, it is a very economical way to tig weld. You dont need a foot pedal or high frequency start to tig weld steel or stainless steel.Tig torch with a gas valve, flowmeter/regulator and a bottle of argon and away you go.Last edited by snoeproe; 01-05-2012 at 04:26 PM.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Thanks for the replies.... I love this site . I have been teaching myself for ten years and this website has helped alot. Gonna order up the scratch tig and start learning/welding.
Reply:bought the set up, 25' cable and cable cover, off brand 17 flex v torch one set of collets, lense collet body etc., box of 10 tungsten, 5lbs of filler rod, connecting lug. 147 to the door. All I have left to get is argon hose. Thanks for the help
Reply:Don't forget to post pictures of your work!Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I will it should be funny. I have a set of great videos that I bought off the net that have helped my stick improve 100% I have not watched all of the tig videos I guess its time to watch them 7 or 8 times |
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