The smell of burning flux makes me horny. Amtec 264 is an idiot rod. It costs over a dollar a rod. I have used it many times and it is always worth the cost. Guys who do a lotta stainless probably can't afford it. But for quarter inch it's good stuff.http://www.network54.com/Forum/16142...3964/Amtec+264Old horsebarn for a shopBig scrap pile out backMiller Syncro200Lifelong collection of toolsBunch of other crapUnderstanding wifeUnderstanding neighbors