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This thing's getting out of handWeldered her up today, and finished, and pulled out a can or two of brewski's, and started THINKINGThe bridge between the infeed and outfeed table fits the Makita chopsaw perfectly..........but nothing last forever.  I might have to buy a new saw before I dieIn the AM, the bridge gets cut out, and the part already welded to the feed tables will stay, and a new bridge will be put in below it.  It gives me 2 more inches of depth in the pocket  2 inches for that rainy day.Don't know why I always see chop saws mounted for 90 degree cuts  This thing is set up so the saw can be rotated to cut virtually any angle short of interfering with the hinge post on the saw.I hired a helicopter photog dude for the last pic  Had to climb to 600 feet to get it all in.  ROFLMAOThe legs are nextTWENTY TWO FEET LONG Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Samm how do you plan on locking the saw in place?  Also is there enough of the saw sitting on the tube at an angle that it's stable and not sort of tippy?A coulpe of clamp on stops for doing repetitive cuts should be easy to build, but you'd need for the saw to be fixed to make that work well. I can think of a 1/2 dozen ways to do each but don't know what your plans are. Also are you adding legs to this or is your plan to set it in the rack with the forks when not in use and just use the horses when needed? I can see points to both options..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Dern sam, you should dedicate a wall of a building to mount that onto.   What does it weigh?"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt
Reply:i've always wanted to make a table like that for my Milwaukee Chop-Saw.....but finally figured the "Ground" was the best place for it , because that's where it always ends up anyway.......had cut a apart a square 6' x 6' fixture the other day , so on the ground it went with block to raise the corners........your gonna need those sawhorses for something soon , and where's the saw gonna end up.   on the ground.that's cool if you could leave it there , for all your multiple length cuts..        thermal arc 252i  -  millermatic 350P -   miller XMT, cp300ts, 30a 22a feeders, buttload of other millers, handfull of lincolns, couple of esabs  -   Hypertherm 1250 G3
Reply:GUYS, IT AIN'T DONE YETSaw will sit on a piece of plate sufficient for the saw's footprint.Sawhorses ain't gonna be what supports the thing, it will have legs bolted to pressure treated sleepers.  It will be placed in a permanent postion next to the container.The saw will float, just the same as it does when working on the ground, but it can be clamped to the plate (which will be later).The saw will rest on a plate, which can be shimmed to true the blade.  Accuracy most folks wouldn't expect from a chop saw, blade deflection notwithstandingGround changes will be compensated for by "locking" the infeed/outfeed angles relative to the horizon.No welds have been made, or will be made, across the flanges of the tubing.  All welds will be paralel to the tubing to eliminate horizontal distortion.  Or they will be vertical in relation to the tubing so any distortion will be lateral instead of horizontal.  The old farmer got it coveredIn addition, the outfeed table was fit to give clearance.  See pic.  Outfeed crossmembers will be lower than infeed crossmembers with the addition of the shim to the fitup pack.  12ga sheetmetal spacer, and yeah, I've tested it, it is sufficient clearance.Final dimensions at the pocket, infeed/outfeed heights over the entire length, will be locked in by diagonal braces at the end of the weldup.  The relation between the legs, and the two tables will be locked because the ground under the sleepers will shift to some extent. Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:southern engineering!! Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
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Reply:If it ain't from Uranus, it just ain't no good   ROFLMAO"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
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Reply:Hey Samm - Will the saw plate be like a lazy Susan?  Degree that table in and clamp your steel to the ladder.  Just thinking out there in the snow.Charlie
Reply:Well, the legs are onJust a quick pic.The neat stuff will be tomorrow when the table is trued, and the outfeed and infeed table angles are locked with two braces.As it sits now, there's a twist on the entire structure due to the uneven ground under the legs and sleepers.It wound up to be 350lbs with the lumber.  Cost........about what you pay for a good chopsaw these days. Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Nice work Sam. When does the construction of the shop (around it) start? "SOUTHPAW" A wise person learns from another persons mistakes;A smart person learns from their own mistakes;But, a stupid person.............never learns.
Reply:Epic.
Reply:straight pimpin sister girl
Reply:Last pic looks like a fire to me! Safe cuttin' amigo.
Reply:nice job :]
Reply:Sam...Your out of control...  Nice job..  I like that lazy Susan idea....
Reply:Damn Samm,I'm gonna have to build me one similar to that to go with my Mondo fab table.   It's one of those projects I've been meaning to get around to for a while.Lookin' good!  P.S. What's the wall thickness on that tubing?Work HARDER, not smarter! ------------------------ Miller Bobcat 250Millermatic 251Lincoln Precision TIG 185Hypertherm PM 600Hobart 135 HandlerOxweld 400 FlameMaster
Reply:SQUARING 101If you're not working on a level surface, and don't want to go thru the agony of trying to level a build, the entire project can sighted in.First off, the two long rails have to match perfectly.  Two pieces of thick wall tubing were placed between the gap in the rails, NOT CLAMPED DOWN, and any gaps between the tubing and the rails was eliminated by shimming under the legs to raise/lower them.Next 4 pieces of the same tubing were placed crossway over the rails to check for twist.  Starting with the piece closest to you, sight it on the next closest piece.  Move your noggin to create an air gap between the pieces, making the gap as small as possible.  Any deviation in the air gap from one side to the other will be corrected with shims under the legs.  Then sight the second piece of tubing on the third farthest, etc etc.  The further you stand from the project, the more accurate will be your sightings (around 15ft, not in the next county)When I was sure the entire structure was planar, I welded two braces between the middle two legs to lock it all up.While there will be settling over time, if the two center legs are locked all that has to be done is to correct any sag or heaving at the outermost legs.  As light as the whole table is (350lbs), I don't anitcipate too much settling over time.I chose not to add braces beyond the middle two legs because of the nature of the steel used.  The tubing is 14ga.  This thing is meant to be supported at 4 points,  To make it overly stiff will place too much stress on the welds attaching the legs to the tubing.  As it settles there could be either a seesaw effect (weight concentrated on a few legs), or a bridge effect (weight concentrated on the end legs).  While the tubing will support a lot of weight on end, I don't have total confidence in the webs ability to resist tearout/bending where welded, as thin as it is.  If you'll notice, the tube rails are fully supported by angle iron underneath the rails, not by welds on the web of the tubing.As in most things there were compromises for weight, cost, and time spent.Also a note on distortion.  No welds were made on either the top or bottom flanges of the rails.  All welds were either along the web, or on the shoulders of the tubing.  Any welding on the flanges would have caused the rails to bow.  Also, no welds on the rails were longer than 2" (except for the middle crossmembers), and all welds were balanced by an identical weld on the other side of the structure. Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:The last two bottom braces which lock the infeed outfeed table height/angle/whatever Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Good info Samm. Question: Why not just use a string line pulled tight in the long axis to set the rails that way?That would have been my 1st thought. Ok my 2nd, I'd have grabbed the laser and shimmed everything to that, but I digress. Take 3 chunks of scrap tube all the same size in thickness. Set one at each end and then string the line over them and pull the line as tight as possible and tie it off. Now use piece #3 to check the distance between the line and the rails at any point and shim as needed until the line just touches the string. If you use a 2' level to level the ends in the cross direction, you can use a 2nd line to set the front rail to match the back easy..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:That would be a good way too.I've gotten so used to sighting since I built the loader, that I don't even stop to think of another way. ROFLMAO.  Old geezers are hard to break of their habitsLaser's too doggone scientific like"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Thinking about it, my wanting to use a string line probably comes from years of setting curb and wall forms. You set and plumb your corners, then string the line and true everything to that for straight and height. Also works real well for things you want an even slope on like steps, rails, grade and so on. With 2 lines set you can even layout complex cross slopes for grade. Attached Images.No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan