Leather cable covers?

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I need to get a leather cable cover for my tig torch but I'm having difficulty choosing one.I found some threads here that have me leaning towards the TILLMAN 581 leather cover but the ones I found only come with snaps,not velcro like others had stated. I did see where the weldtec two piece was rated very high but at its price of $148 they can keep it, its not out of budget but I'm just not willing to pay the same price for a cover that payed for the torch.I have also ran across a WeldCraft leather one but I'm not sure if weldcraft actually made it as its only available on that site here https://weldingsupply.securesites.ne...l?CC-23||1|756 as I can see its a snap just like the Tillman but it doesn't give its diameter, just length. I just want a comfortable cover that moves with ease and that weldcraft one looks rather tough...lolthought I would throw this out there and see if anyone has experiences with these or could recommend a different oneTHANKS SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151
Reply:well i have a leather one and a nylon one if that what the material is the leather I bought off of a guy that had it forsale on CL the material one I bought at the lws.  Now the leather one is nice and they are expensive without a doubt the material one was only a farction of the cost ofthe leather.  So it depends on how you look at things, good, and cheap do not go together.  The material one will last a long time, and I sure the leather will as well, it just depends on what you are after and what you want to spend.  I am in a controlled environment where I can take care of my equipment, that might make a big difference on the equipment.
Reply:Yea, I kinda ruled out nylon covers and looking for a good quality leather one, the one I stated @ the $148 price is actually the highest price one I have came across, I just don't need that. I need one thats comfortable and practical for what it is...... good quality should still be able to be found in the $60~80 range, I hope, just looking for a little input from others. What brand leather one you have? is it comfortable and is it velcro, zipper, or snap? SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151
Reply:Leather on both the plasma and MIG. Nylon on the TIG. I found the leather ones...snaps...on eBay for around $30 if memory serves. Good utilitarian covers and well worth more than I payed.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:I was looking at the nylon ones to begin with because you can get them with a zipper but my garage is always a disaster area and allot of times the cable will be left to fend for itself.... also I have been know to get into the heat of the moment and forget or lose track of where said cables are laying and accidentally drop something hot on or near them, I figured leather would be a wiser choice in my case SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151
Reply:My favorite TIG cable covers are the CK Worldwide black leather covers.  They come in two diameters (depending on bundle thickness) and two lengths.  They are velcro-attached, and quite supple, flexible, and thin.  They aren't cheap though.  cheers
Reply:Ask yourself this: Are your uncovered cables getting damaged? Or  do you just want leather covered cables because you saw them advertised and you think you truely need them? If they're not getting damaged, it's a waste of money.  Ive been stepping on mine and basically driving my SMAW cables in the dirt and its been several years of harsh abusive treatment so  far hasnt destroyed or damaged the cables yet.  The insulation has lasted without any problems. UV light from direct sun light hasn't even adversaly affected them yet.  Again, do you really need the leather?Last edited by SuperArc; 06-01-2012 at 12:56 AM.Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller  625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita  Baileigh NRA Life Member
Reply:These are the ones I started using. Made in USA and reasonably priced snap leather covers 22 feet long at $50 ea. Read this page regarding the properties of leather. The company is owned by Jerry Uttrachi, former president of the AWS by the way. I use many of his other products also.http://www.netwelding.com/Cable_Hose_Cover.htmWeld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcAsk yourself this: Are your uncovered cables getting damaged? Or  do you just want leather covered cables because you saw them advertised and you think you truely need them? If they're not getting damaged, it's a waste of money.  Ive been stepping on mine and basically driving my SMAW cables in the dirt and its been several years of harsh abusive treatment so  far hasnt destroyed or damaged the cables yet.  The insulation has lasted without any problems. UV light from direct sun light hasn't even adversaly affected them yet.  Again, do you really need the leather?
Reply:Shovelon, I came across that site in my travels, the only problem is it only comes in a 4" version, my cables together only measure 2.5" around.....wouldnt that be a little too big? I know the standart 3" cable covers state that they are for the 9/20.are you using them on a tig torch or mig setup?maybe 4" is openedand laying flat? so if its snapped together it would be ~2"?sorry, im a little lost on these sizingsLast edited by Spar-X; 06-01-2012 at 01:56 AM. SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151
Reply:Originally Posted by Spar-Xlol....Uhhh, yeah....... if you dont wanna take care of your tools, thats your prerogative.Me, i wanna get good service for years to come and dont wanna be "that guy" asking myself...... was there something i could have done to prevent this premature wear on these unprotected cables? just so there is no misunderstanding ill be using this on a water cooled tig setup not an air cooled one where cable is already insulated.Im glad your getting good mileage out of yours...
Reply:At one shop we i worked at we used old fire hose split in half to protect our cables on our push-pull guns and tig torches. we fastened it on with black friction/ electrical tape. cheap and effective.Nothing Ever Got Done By Quitting, Never Give Up.
Reply:Originally Posted by Doug247At one shop we i worked at we used old fire hose split in half to protect our cables on our push-pull guns and tig torches. we fastened it on with black friction/ electrical tape. cheap and effective.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcI'm not familiar with your Tig set up as described, but I would think that stick or mig welding outdoors puts more wear/tear on cable set-ups being dragged over concrete, asphalt or dirt lots.
Reply:Originally Posted by Spar-XShovelon, I came across that site in my travels, the only problem is it only comes in a 4" version, my cables together only measure 2.5" around.....wouldnt that be a little too big? I know the standart 3" cable covers state that they are for the 9/20.are you using them on a tig torch or mig setup?maybe 4" is openedand laying flat? so if its snapped together it would be ~2"?sorry, im a little lost on these sizings
Reply:I just love it when a dumbazz who DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A TIG WELDER, tries to tell another poster how he doesn't need to protect his torch leads.Pretty obvious he never replaced an expensive power/water return hose because he drug it across a hot spot on his welding table or over a just welded bead.And I got to add that the "electrical tape cover" was a brilliant suggestion (NOT).Why don't people just STFU when they know nothing about a subject?Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:I've had both nylon and leather covers. I prefer the nylon. The nylon is more flexible and have lasted longer. The advantage of the leather cover is it's more heat resistant. But I figure, if you've got hot metal hitting the ground while tig welding, you're doing it wrong.Ian TannerKawasaki KX450 and many other fine tools
Reply:The leather covers are really good for plasma torch leads.Mine are Velcro attach and have been using it for a couple of years with no prob. Attached ImagesLast edited by LarryO; 06-01-2012 at 10:04 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcI do take care of my tools.  I just use them and use them hard.  When they break, I repair or buy new.   I'm not familiar with your Tig set up as described, but I would think that stick or mig welding outdoors puts more wear/tear on cable set-ups being dragged over concrete, asphalt or dirt lots.  Pro welders have been doing it that way for years and their cables last a long time.  Its  not like the cables are made from wet spaghetti.  I don't know, but doesn't a Tig set-up produce the least amount of weld spatter, if any?  There's no slag either, right?  Are you burning holes through your cables while Tig welding?  If that's the case, leather won't save your cables.  Even though I don't use them, I would understand using them for mig, fcaw or smaw processes due to heavy molton metal and spatter flying everywhere.Just askn??
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIWhy don't people just STFU when they know nothing about a subject?
Reply:Originally Posted by Spar-XShovelon, I came across that site in my travels, the only problem is it only comes in a 4" version, my cables together only measure 2.5" around.....wouldnt that be a little too big? I know the standart 3" cable covers state that they are for the 9/20.are you using them on a tig torch or mig setup?maybe 4" is openedand laying flat? so if its snapped together it would be ~2"?sorry, im a little lost on these sizings
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonWe do more than tig, we mig and plasmacut. And yes sometimes tig welding produces blowout from zinc coatings and air pressure buildup in chambers.
Reply:Your right, i wouldn't like it on my tig, but has saved the plasma lead a few times.Haven't really seen thin leather ones on this side of the pond.
Reply:Spar-X,Didn't recommend it because you already said the WeldTec two piece cover was more than you wanted to spend, but, I use that cover setup on my Sync and think it's the best out there.  For the most part you have a heavy leather cover that lays of the floor and a lighter leather (lambskin I think) cover where you need the increased flexibility (at the torch).WeldTec also makes a velcro sealed cover made out of the lighter leather the whole length.  It's not as heavy duty as the two piece setup, but still provides protection for your hoses.  This is what I use on the Dynasty 200. Attached ImagesSyncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIIthe "electrical tape cover" was a brilliant suggestion (NOT).Why don't people just STFU when they know nothing about a subject?Originally Posted by SundownIIISpar-X,Didn't recommend it because you already said the WeldTec two piece cover was more than you wanted to spend, but, I use that cover setup on my Sync and think it's the best out there.  For the most part you have a heavy leather cover that lays of the floor and a lighter leather (lambskin I think) cover where you need the increased flexibility (at the torch).WeldTec also makes a velcro sealed cover made out of the lighter leather the whole length.  It's not as heavy duty as the two piece setup, but still provides protection for your hoses.  This is what I use on the Dynasty 200.
Reply:Originally Posted by SundownIIII just love it when a dumbazz who DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A TIG WELDER, tries to tell another poster how he doesn't need to protect his torch leads.
Reply:Anvil you have been introduced to 1 of 2 yack off's on this site, i told 1 of them that he is a disgrace if he wore a uniform as he has claimed to have done.  And it is only a matter of time, when he chimes in with some disparaging words to posters who try to gather information when they come to this site.  But oh well, now back to the subject at hand, as I mentioned I have 2 covers, 1 is leather with a zipper that I keep on my water cooled tig lines, the other is a nylon that I keep on my plasma gun.  As long as works to protect the investment of the tool, they only have to satisfy the user and their pocket book at the time. Just saying.
Reply:Just wanted to ad that the one from netwelding is Chinese not USA, not sure why I thought it was..... wishful thinking I guess. Im using the pigskin from WeldTec SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151
Reply:Spar X,Only problem I've found with the nylon zipper on the covers is if a bit of slag or hot spark hits the zipper, it can trash the zipper and render the entire cover unusable.I use a nylon protector on my small mig (with a zipper) and haven't had a problem with it.  A few years back I did melt a nylon zipper on a tig torch lead (came in comtact with a just completed weld) and was pooched when I had to replace a gas lead.  Ended up throwing the cover away.I do use the solid pigskin cover (very pliable) on the Dynasty 200 leads and as a cover for the Hypertherm 1250.  Both those covers are pigskin with velcro closures.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:I like my nylon cover with Velcro from WeldTec. My concern with leather is that it might decay with the humidity or get chewed on by the critters in the shop.
Reply:Originally Posted by Spar-XJust wanted to ad that the one from netwelding is Chinese not USA, not sure why I thought it was..... wishful thinking I guess. Im using the pigskin from WeldTec
Reply:Can't find a link to it but I like American Weldquips heli-tube gun wrap.It is much lighter than leather and nylon with no snaps or velcro and keeps everything tidy.It is a bit pricy at 3.00 a foot.
Reply:shovelon, dont get me wrong, I like the one from netwelding and am holding onto it as a spare. If anyone is curious here is what you will receive if you order from netweldingits actually well constructed and the leather is soft/supple(?) lol, It just kinda flops around loosely and the snaps seem to be a great idea, it actually took me a couple minutes to figure out which one I was gonna wrap my new CK in...... but WeldTec wonpic of new CK 230I never really thought about the zipper melting but that is something that im gonna have to be careful with, on the other hand I could probably remove the zipper by its stitching and put in my own snaps if that were ever to happen SQUARE WAVE 175 TIG   DUAL MIG 151