hobart handler 140 to build 150ft of fence......

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Hi. I would like to buy a small mig welder because I don't have 220 at home, plus I don't need a beastly machine. Got plenty of those at work for when I need them.I mainly want this machine for small home projects. I'm making my god son a kick a** custom bed out of 16ga sq tubing as an example of the kinds of small projects I'll be making.I will me making a fence out of 1"x1" 16ga sq tubing for top and bottom rails, 1/2" sq 16ga tube pickets, and 2.5" sq posts also 16ga. It'll probably be about 150 linear feet of fence. Will a hobart handler 140 hold up well? Would I need to stop constantly or would I be able to make a few panels, stop and let the machine rest while I clean and prime some panels etc. I've never used a small 110 v machine before. And this will be the biggest project I would be doing with it. Everything I plan on using it for will be small around the house projects.
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Reply:I have one of those little machines, and I love it, it is a 20% duty cycle, for what you plan on using it for it should be just fine, I have actually done some quite hefty jobs with mine, and really over run the time limits on it though I dont recommend that kind of use, if anything ever happened to my hobart handler 140, it would be replaced with anther one just like it within hours,
Reply:Originally Posted by Broccoli1Yuphttp://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=33064
Reply:16 ga is really what those little machines were designed to do well. 1/8" is pushing it to the max under real world conditions, but 16 ga is thin enough to give you a solid duty cycle.As long as you want to stay with 1/8" and less, then a 110v mig will be fine. Anything thicker and you need to step it up to a 230v mig or a top end 110v stick welder.Jack is there anything at your house that doesn't look like a photo shoot for Better Homes and Gardens or This Old House?  Last edited by DSW; 06-28-2012 at 05:39 AM..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Originally Posted by drjuanI have one of those little machines, and I love it, it is a 20% duty cycle, for what you plan on using it for it should be just fine, I have actually done some quite hefty jobs with mine, and really over run the time limits on it though I dont recommend that kind of use, if anything ever happened to my hobart handler 140, it would be replaced with anther one just like it within hours,
Reply:Thanks Jack. A friend recently told me the same thing about the electrical set up. Saw the link broccoli posted about your fence project. Very nice job btw. I did ornamental/custom iron in Denver, Colorado from 01-08 and your final product would definitely meet our standards  I noticed you used blocks as your spacers between pickets, what we would do is make a universal jig for fence anywhere from 3'-8' tall with metal tabs evenly spaced. An even easier way was to make your panels, with the top and bottom rails, then tack on both end pickets about 3.5" from either end, square them up and give them pitch if necessary, then we would use punched channel as the spacers.What you do is cut out every hole on one side. So you're left with all the holes open on one side. Most of our fence was 1/2" pickets at 4" on centers. So you would use 1/2" punched channel on 4" centers. You drop in your pickets, lay some strips of the channel on the top and bottom and viola! Since you're all squared up on the ends, all you do is make a stop where you need it and boom. You can knock out hundreds of feet in a day. Easy money. Originally Posted by Jack OlsenExactly.  Almost three years later, that fence hasn't had a single issue or failure.  I never gave a thought to duty cycle, since the welds (two or three thousand of them?) were all short.  The machine did the job without ever losing its breath.I also made my son a kick-a$$ bed out of 16 ga with 120v.  (Although, if you have a house, then you have 240 available.  You just don't have an outlet wired for it.  Residential electric consists of two legs of 120v; each goes to half your circuits -- you draw off both for 240v.)
Reply:Originally Posted by PiRiNoLsKyThanks Jack. A friend recently told me the same thing about the electrical set up. Saw the link broccoli posted about your fence project. Very nice job btw. I did ornamental/custom iron in Denver, Colorado from 01-08 and your final product would definitely meet our standards  I noticed you used blocks as your spacers between pickets, what we would do is make a universal jig for fence anywhere from 3'-8' tall with metal tabs evenly spaced. An even easier way was to make your panels, with the top and bottom rails, then tack on both end pickets about 3.5" from either end, square them up and give them pitch if necessary, then we would use punched channel as the spacers.What you do is cut out every hole on one side. So you're left with all the holes open on one side. Most of our fence was 1/2" pickets at 4" on centers. So you would use 1/2" punched channel on 4" centers. You drop in your pickets, lay some strips of the channel on the top and bottom and viola! Since you're all squared up on the ends, all you do is make a stop where you need it and boom. You can knock out hundreds of feet in a day. Easy money.
Reply:Bunk Beds?  #2 around the corner? Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:That corner's been rounded.  She arrived 10 months ago.  I can't even remember what a full night of sleep is like.Jack OlsenMy garage website
Reply:Originally Posted by Jack OlsenThat corner's been rounded.  She arrived 10 months ago.  I can't even remember what a full night of sleep is like.
Reply:Thank you!Jack OlsenMy garage website
Reply:Jack, Some awesome work you do.Very nice. That little guy sure looks to like his bed!!-Jim