blown radiator in bernard 3500 tig cooler

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I've got a Bernard 3500 cooler with a blown radiator hooked up to a 12 year old lincoln square wave tig. The welder is not used in manufacturing and the duty cycle is never and issue.  My question is will a radiator from a 2500 series cooler work in place of the stock unit. The only difference I can find is the tank capacity and 2000 btu's of cooling power. The pump is the same 50 psi 1.8 gpm unit.  Anbody else have specs or expierence that might be handy?
Reply:fredella,One of the coolers I have is an older Bernard, don't even remember the number.This one uses about a 5 gal reservoir (plastic) and the pump assembly is located in a box that sits on top of the reservoir.  This cooler doesn't have a radiator at all.  According to the instructions that came with the unit, it's rated for up to a 500A torch.With all that said, I would think that the 2500 radiator would work just fine.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:I appreciate the input, I think your right.....but I'd still like to hear more!
Reply:fredella,Also got a couple Coolmate 3's and a Coolmate 3X (Integrated into the Sync 250) and that Bernard is the quietest of all of them.I use a Coolmate 3 on the Dynasty 200 but have to be real careful where I position the cart to make sure the fan doesn't blow the covering gas away.  Seriously considering hooking the Dynasty up to the Bernard.  Only problem there, is with other shop equipment running, I'd probably forget to turn it off.  The Coolmate 3 makes enough noise where that's seldom a problem.Syncro 250 DX Dynasty 200 DXMM 251 w/30A SG XMT 304 w/714 Feeder & Optima PulserHH187Dialarc 250 AC/DCHypertherm PM 1250Smith, Harris, Victor O/ASmith and Thermco Gas MixersAccess to a full fab shop with CNC Plasma, Water Jet, etc.
Reply:I don't believe the radiator from the 2500 will work, it is a completely different part number...Here's a link to our replacement parts page...  http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...x&cPath=16_498there you'll see some downloadable (free) PDFs of the Parts list and exploded view of the cooler.http://www.arc-zone.com/pdf/Bernard3...ementParts.pdfThe part number for the 3500 radiator is 3880, our price is $278.63 --in stockThe part number for the 2500SS is 2230002 at $177.52The radiator for the 2500SS is smaller also, less surface area for cooling...Do you have a 2500 radiator on hand? or are you looking to save money? The mounts may not be the same...  the bolt in pick up points may be different but it could probably be modified.-----------------------Carmen Electrodewww.CarmenElectrode.comand the boss blogs at  www.JoeWelder.comall powered by  www.Arc-Zone.com
Reply:thanks for the input.  Thats exactly it I am looking to get out of ths with as little expense as possible.  My expierence has tought me that in some instances part numbers mean nothing and I'm inclined to believe this is one of those cases. if the mounts or  inlet\ outlet are different I can work around that.  If anybodys interested to get out of the pinch I removed the fan and bypassed the rad all together.  I kept a close watch on the fluid temp \200 amps AC\  and had only the slightest temp increase.  Touching on what one of you said early on i figured the volume of liquid alone and 25 ft. leads would keep plenty cool with intermittent use and I was right.  for the record Ive been using bernard coolers for 11 years now and this is the first failure I've had.  I will be purchasing a 2500 rad and I'll keep you all posted on the outcome. Thanks everbody that posted!
Reply:Originally Posted by CarmenElectrodeI don't believe the radiator from the 2500 will work, it is a completely different part number...Here's a link to our replacement parts page...  http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...x&cPath=16_498there you'll see some downloadable (free) PDFs of the Parts list and exploded view of the cooler.http://www.arc-zone.com/pdf/Bernard3...ementParts.pdfThe part number for the 3500 radiator is 3880, our price is $278.63 --in stockThe part number for the 2500SS is 2230002 at $177.52The radiator for the 2500SS is smaller also, less surface area for cooling...Do you have a 2500 radiator on hand? or are you looking to save money? The mounts may not be the same...  the bolt in pick up points may be different but it could probably be modified.
Reply:Originally Posted by fredellaI've got a Bernard 3500 cooler with a blown radiator. . .
Reply:Originally Posted by denrepBlown???What type of damage?Maybe the core is repairable?Good Luck
Reply:Originally Posted by SD_LurkerHe's asking for help... Not a link to your website where he can purchase the replacement at retail cost. How pathetic of you to come in here and link him to your website. I'm sure he knew he could buy new parts if need be.. Why don't you answer his question instead of " I don't think it will work but you can buy a new one from me" All you give a **** about is making a quick dollar and I've had to figure that out the hard way.
Reply:Originally Posted by fredellathanks for the input.  Thats exactly it I am looking to get out of ths with as little expense as possible.  My expierence has tought me that in some instances part numbers mean nothing and I'm inclined to believe this is one of those cases. if the mounts or  inlet\ outlet are different I can work around that.  If anybodys interested to get out of the pinch I removed the fan and bypassed the rad all together.  I kept a close watch on the fluid temp \200 amps AC\  and had only the slightest temp increase.  Touching on what one of you said early on i figured the volume of liquid alone and 25 ft. leads would keep plenty cool with intermittent use and I was right.  for the record Ive been using bernard coolers for 11 years now and this is the first failure I've had.  I will be purchasing a 2500 rad and I'll keep you all posted on the outcome. Thanks everbody that posted!
Reply:Originally Posted by Craig in DenverSD_Lurker:Chill bro. CarmenElectrode is one of the good guys (gals).
Reply:hey carmen, i thought yer post was helpful...gave the man another option...