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I wasn't too happy with the Spraymaster gun, it kept cutting out on me.So I go trotting off the the store and buy a Lincoln Magnum Pro.  Get back to the place, and the hookup for the DIN plug is wrongSoooooo, being as it's too windy to do anything around here, I decided to give the Spraymaster another try.This time with close fitting glovesThe baggy gloves I was using the other day were catching underneath the trigger tab  Turns out the gun works fineNow I gotta decide what to do with the new Lincoln gun.  It's really really really really nice Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I mean the Lincoln gun is REALLY NICEHeavy, well balanced, NICE.  And the trigger  Attached Images"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:.This time with close fitting gloves you say huh.. ha gotta modify it or use the lil useless condom glove on one hand I guess...that's good you got it working though Sam....could use the condom on that purdyful new gun MMMM might feel pretty good har har...Lincoln 225 Tombstone,Miller Big 20,Hobart 180,150' Argon,A/D hobart hood 22 Ton Log splitter,79 F350 dump eats 4.75 TONS and still turns cutters,grinders,And a  Hypertherm POWERMAX 30
Reply:That glove is so tight fitting and thin, you can see your hand through it.  I doubt I would even bother putting them on.  The weld is purty.  You know better than to throw a weld up with out giving the specs on it.  what wire, amps, wfs, position, time of day, etc. lol
Reply:Originally Posted by Tony D.This time with close fitting gloves you say huh.. ha gotta modify it or use the lil useless condom glove on one hand I guess...that's good you got it working though Sam....could use the condom on that purdyful new gun MMMM might feel pretty good har har...
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungThat glove is so tight fitting and thin, you can see your hand through it.  I doubt I would even bother putting them on.  The weld is purty.  You know better than to throw a weld up with out giving the specs on it.  what wire, amps, wfs, position, time of day, etc. lol
Reply:It will never replace stick though"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:probably gonna lock the doors and hide when they see me coming back to return the new gun"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I think stick will always be king.  I also think it should be learned first as it teaches all the fundamentals of a good weld.  I am growing fonder of wire the more I use it.  Those welds you have there are simply textbook in my opinion and would be proud to show them off.  I have been using a suitcase with a 12 inch innershield gun when I weld for one contractor.  talk about the cats meow.  The speed and convenience it affords over stick is absolutely amazing.
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungI think stick will always be king.  I also think it should be learned first as it teaches all the fundamentals of a good weld.  I am growing fonder of wire the more I use it.  Those welds you have there are simply textbook in my opinion and would be proud to show them off.  I have been using a suitcase with a 12 inch innershield gun when I weld for one contractor.  talk about the cats meow.  The speed and convenience it affords over stick is absolutely amazing.
Reply:congratulations farmersamm, it appears that you,ve welded two bricks together, amazing. if you make the brick shiny first you might even get a smooth looking run.
Reply:Originally Posted by old matecongratulations farmersamm, it appears that you,ve welded two bricks together, amazing. if you make the brick shiny first you might even get a smooth looking run.
Reply:Good to see you got it working farmersamm!I've got a 300amp eliminator with the same handle that I took off my T/A 250 after a weeks use (hobart/tweeco plug with a box of parts). It was just too uncomfortable to pull the trigger for long periods (I do a lot of build up). I'd offer the parts but I think the spraymaster takes screw in tips and the eliminator uses twist lock tips.Matt
Reply:Looks great Samm.    Yeah, you should grind off the rust and mill scale but it looks pretty darn good despite that.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Glad you got it sorted. Nice beads for sure.Now clean your office, if your wife sees that she will come unwelded!!! Lincoln PowerMig 180cVictor O/ABandaids and aspirinI don't know what I don't know!?
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammprobably gonna lock the doors and hide when they see me coming back to return the new gun
Reply:Glad you got this one figured out.Samm, based on your weld parameters, and looking at the weld, assume you are using NR211 innershield?No reason to go with an innershield gun with this wire, don't waste your money.  My experience has been, .035, .045 T-11 wires (all brands) will all work just fine thru a Mig gun.  Likewise, ESAB's Coreshield 8, 1/16" (a T-8 wire).   Personally, I only use an Innershield gun for Lincoln's NR232 (also a T-8 wire), and NS-3M, these won't work at all thru a MIG gun.I suggest, once you run this roll out, get the next one .045.   Perfect for the 1/4" and 3/8" +-  you'd normally be working with.  Quite a bit faster when you need it to be, and it can still be turned down for the thin stuff, I've welded 18 ga. galvanized ductwork with .045.Also consider, if available in your area, Hobart's 21B.   Same classification, still a T-11 wire.  More user-friendly, you don't have to be as precise with your ws and voltage settings as with NR211.  If you are in a hurry, you can turn your ws and voltage up over and above the recommended parameters to a point, and still get a good weld, more so than with the NR211.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersamm.....
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI get this all the time, and I know it's a bad habit
Reply:Samm, those are some great looking F/C welds. What Innershield is that? I was told I have to go with some big wire for what I described as my requirements. Like you, I do everything outside. But they told me that the Innershields in .035 & .045 were only single pass. I decided when I get the spare money to try Hobart XLR8 in 1/16". When I spoke with Ivan from Hobart/McKay, he said it was just what I was looking for."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"