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I would like your advice about the welding table in the picture below. I plan to have the top from either 3/8"or 1/2" material. The tubing will be 2"by 2" by 3/16"wall. There will be at least one possibly two crossmembers under the table top. There will also be 4 wheels one at each inside corner two fixed two rotatable. As well there will be a threaded plate secured under each leg that will allow me to thread out the rod to fix the table in place. (didn't have the CAD experience to do this in the drawing) Once done will most likely look at adding small items to hang clamps etc from as well as providing a good spot to secure a ground cable to the table top. Attached ImagesHarold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Looks as good as any I've seen here.That's the same size top I have on mine. I used 4 rotating, lockable wheels (no threaded plate/stops) to make it easier to push the table in any direction.With 1/2" thick top, locking all 4 wheels makes it pretty immobile. I have my NoMar Tire Changer mounted to it also so it's gets some torque applied fairly often and it still doesn't move with the wheels locked.
Reply:I like the design. I would go with 1/2" for the top. The only thing that I would change is the height. My table is 36" high and I'm thinking about cutting it down 3 or 4 inches. I'm 5' 9" and it would make it easier for me to work on. I ran electrial outlets on each side of the table and put a vise on the corner. Here's a picture of mine so you can see the vice and and outlet. Attached Images
Reply:Thanks for the hints I'm 6'5"therefore the thought of 40"table hight. I hate bending over to much to work on things. Like the use of round pipe for the legs.Harold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Originally Posted by haroldmulderThanks for the hints I'm 6'5"therefore the thought of 40"table hight. I hate bending over to much to work on things. Like the use of round pipe for the legs.
Reply:check this table out I found on ebay - 63" TABLE DIAMETER 2-1/2" THICK TABLEhttp://cgi.ebay.com/63-DIAMETER-SOLI...item5885ec4093 Attached Images"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal" -Henry Ford
Reply:I agree with Cajun... go with the 1/2 inch top. I used 3/4 on my new one. Would have went with 1" but a 4x8 sheet would have cost about a grand. Anyway, I'd go as thick as you can afford. I built one with a 1/4" top and regretted it. Looks like a good design.Work HARDER, not smarter! ------------------------ Miller Bobcat 250Millermatic 251Lincoln Precision TIG 185Hypertherm PM 600Hobart 135 HandlerOxweld 400 FlameMaster
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineercheck this table out I found on ebay - 63" TABLE DIAMETER 2-1/2" THICK TABLEhttp://cgi.ebay.com/63-DIAMETER-SOLI...item5885ec4093
Reply:Think about a plate of some kind on the bottom to hold more junk. Eith my design I had to load in the bottom shelf part way through assembly to fit it in. After the fact you may have to hack up the shelf to get it in.
Reply:Nice design Harold. With that design you could later on add a sheet of metal to the table's lower cross members to add a shelf for storage.Cajun did a nice job on that table of his. I also used big black pipe for my table legs for the added stability. The addition of the electrical outlets makes it nice for using electrical grinders or tools for work on the table.That 63" round table 2 1/2" thick and EBay item. I bet that item is strictly pickup at location only! As shipping would cost you a fortune.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.& 2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:I regret my 3/8 thick top as well go 1/2.Dave ReberWadsworth Ohio
Reply:Thanks for all the input. I guess the question for table top will be the cost of 1/2"stock. Will have to search around and see what becomes available. As to the lower shelf Idea I did think about that wan't to wait till I worked at the table before I decided how big to make the lower shelf so that I don't hit it with my size 13"clodhoppers. I'll probably not do the electrical thing as it will be a mobile table in the shop and I have lots of plugs around the perimeter of the garage. Again thanks for all the hints.Harold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Looks good. Two things, first, go with the 1/2"+ top, and second, I'm 6'8" and I built my table with a 42" height. I love it!! I can work all day without even coming to close to having a backache. Unlike the past years working in shops with 36" tables. Ouch!!! Will a 36"x 48" top be big enough?
Reply:Hello fello Canadian eh I have also recently built a new table. 3X5 ft seems to be ok to still move it around. 1/2 inch top is good, mine was about $ 230 at Russell metals. I also incrporated a modified desk for storage. If I did it again I would have put a foot well for sitting and tig welding as a prior poster did on his. Might still do that mod when I get pi----d at the lack of foot pedal room. Hockey puck stabilizers work great, 3/4 in all thread with nuts top and bottom. Fred Attached Images
Reply:IMAGINEMW I believe 36" by 48" should be large enough. I'm only a hobbiest and I'd run out of room in the garage if I started getting much larger.METALBNDR I like the use of your hockey pucks, neat ideaHarold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Originally Posted by haroldmulderThanks for the hints I'm 6'5"therefore the thought of 40"table hight. I hate bending over to much to work on things. Like the use of round pipe for the legs.
Reply:Harold Mulder I like your table plans so far. I'm also building a welding table of a similar design. It is much like the one OxyMoron posted just above. Mine is based on the Miller Welding Table project, but simpler. I'm only 6', but my table height with casters is about 40". I think it will be easier to work from, without bending so much. I like the vise mount in OxyMoron's pic, but I was thinking of cutting a 2" sq hold in the corner of the table top, and welding the receiver to the upright, right under the top. It seems like that might make for a more stable and strong support. I haven't started trying to cut thru the 3/8" top yet. I may change my mind. Attached ImagesNctox, Stickmate LX 235AC/160DC HH210
Reply:Oxy moron Nice table nice way of storing clamps as well just wonder whether the stickout interferes with you getting close to the table if you have to work on that one side. I also like the vice support have you been able to whale away at an item or does it shift the table if doing that?Nctox Great start on a table look forward to the finished project. Just wondering if when you stand up near the table if your feet hit the lower crossmembers. Was that the old welding table in the background:=):=)Harold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Originally Posted by haroldmulderOxy moron Nice table nice way of storing clamps as well just wonder whether the stickout interferes with you getting close to the table if you have to work on that one side. I also like the vice support have you been able to whale away at an item or does it shift the table if doing that?Nctox Great start on a table look forward to the finished project. Just wondering if when you stand up near the table if your feet hit the lower crossmembers. Was that the old welding table in the background:=):=)
Reply:I built this for the shop. the tubing is 2"x2"x .100" wall, and the top is two pieces of 48"x48" but only 1/4" inch think. with a center support in the middle.I've been using it for 3 years with no problems.
Reply:No cup holder....Redisgn it :P
Reply:Originally Posted by haroldmulderOxy moron Nice table nice way of storing clamps as well just wonder whether the stickout interferes with you getting close to the table if you have to work on that one side. I also like the vice support have you been able to whale away at an item or does it shift the table if doing that?Nctox Great start on a table look forward to the finished project. Just wondering if when you stand up near the table if your feet hit the lower crossmembers. Was that the old welding table in the background:=):=)
Reply:Oxy Moron Thanks for the responseDetox Good looking table, another nice way to store clamps and still have room underneath if you are sitting at the table. Again thanks for all the great ideas. Once I start constructing table will post photo's of finished product.Harold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:If the flat portion of the table sticks out I learned pretty quickly to round the corners; right after I bent down to pick something up and ran a corner up my back as I stood up.
Reply:Agreed. I rounded the exposed corners of my thinner welding table yesterday.With my inch-thick bench, it's not practical to cut a rounded edge. But you can see here how I used a grinder to make it a little less likely to draw blood.And while you're thinking overhang -- the original drawing doesn't show a measurement, but I'd suggest at least 2" on the front three sides. So long as you've got a square piece of plate on the top, the edges are a great place to clamp right-angle joints. But you'll be frustrated if your clamping area is limited to less than a couple of inches, at least, and it's frustrating to find yourself wanting to clamp something right where the understructure meets the bench top.Last edited by Jack Olsen; 02-08-2010 at 12:45 PM.Jack OlsenMy garage websiteGood poing about the overhang. Initially I was only going to do a 1"overhang but after reading your post and looking at my clamps I think 2"will definitly be a better system. I also copy the previous post about rounded edges. I had planned on rounding the corners and then just grinding/filing the top bottom edge to soften the edge. Your comment reinforces my thought about rounding the corners. ThanksHarold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:When I build my "real" welding table I'm going to use fixed (non-caster) wheels on one end and straight legs on the other end with a "flip down" caster assembly to move the table when needed. The casters will be set down by stepping on a lever and setting a pin to hold them in place. When the casters are down the straight legs will be raised about .5" to 1" off the floor which is all that's needed to move the table around. The caster assembly will be set back just enough that when flipped up they are "tucked under" the table and not a shin-banging-hazard. This is the best way I can think of to have a solid table that can still quickly roll around. Here are a couple sketchups of what I mean... thoughts? Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by haroldmulderThanks for the hints I'm 6'5"therefore the thought of 40"table hight. I hate bending over to much to work on things. Like the use of round pipe for the legs.
Reply:Markfuga That is a really neat way of puting wheels under your table. I may have to go back to the drawing board. Thanks for the infoHarold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:Detox,That phone wiring is UGLY! Holy cow. Who did that? Two monkeys and a football?You wouldn't think I work for a phone company, huh?Lincoln Power Mig 210MP MIGLincoln Power Mig 350MP - MIG and Push-PullLincoln TIG 300-300Lincoln Hobby-Weld 110v Thanks JLAMESCK TIG TORCH, gas diffuser, pyrex cupThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 101My brain
Reply:Harold Mulder Here is the vise mount that I described earlier. I haven't used it yet, so I can't say how great an idea it is. It seems like a good way to conserve space, yet easily remove the vise if you need the full table top. I'm still very new at working with metal, so take this idea with a grain of salt.Sorry about the dark pics........... Attached ImagesNctox, Stickmate LX 235AC/160DC HH210
Reply:I think that is a very simple and elegant method. and should work extremely well.Harold MulderMiller 211 AutosetHTP 201 Invertig with water coolerHardinge Cataract Quick Change Lathe
Reply:nctox,I really like the idea and can only assume that you have a spiffy cover to go in there when it is not being used. That or some way to get the stuff that will fall in there back out.
Reply:Here's another option for a mobile table - 1 or 2 floor locks that lift the castors off the ground.http://www.mcmaster.com/#floor-brakes/=5qwnn3Lincoln SA200, HH135, Lencospot, HF80 Inverter, Rockwell 11x35 lathe, HF drill mill, Kama 554 tractor w/ FEL & BH, Belarus 250AS, lot's of Chinese tools
Reply:Originally Posted by arvidjnctox,I really like the idea and can only assume that you have a spiffy cover to go in there when it is not being used. That or some way to get the stuff that will fall in there back out.
Reply:metalbndr, what guage steel did you use for the legs and such? I like the pucks!nctox, clever idea! What thickness is the table top on your table?Thanks all,CJPTotal noob to weldingAuto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.-Hemmingway
Reply:[QUOTEnctox, clever idea! What thickness is the table top on your table?CJP[/QUOTE]3/8".I cut the hole with a 2" hole -saw and then squared it up with a recip saw.Nctox, Stickmate LX 235AC/160DC HH210
Reply:Originally Posted by eyeball engineercheck this table out I found on ebay - 63" TABLE DIAMETER 2-1/2" THICK TABLEhttp://cgi.ebay.com/63-DIAMETER-SOLI...item5885ec4093
Reply:"3/8".I cut the hole with a 2" hole -saw and then squared it up with a recip saw. "Thanks nctox,CJPTotal noob to weldingAuto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.-Hemmingway
Reply:Nctox, those flanges on the side of that vise plate create a clever way to keep the vise from rocking on the fillet weld underneath the plate. How did you form those, on a heavy gauge sheet metal brake? How thick is that vise base plate? ref: Do you have a vise storage location on your table's undercarriage as well?Nice work!--zipLast edited by zipzit; 03-05-2010 at 10:38 AM.
Reply:It looks like a piece of jr channel to me, kind of channel used for stair risers
Reply:I am really diggin this thread. I just got a 3/8 x 69" x 48" plate and I am waiting to start a table build because I keep seeing neat features on various tables and changing my mind! So stop with the pics already. Has any one here doubled up their top? I can get another piece this size, and was thinking of stacking them and then stitching them around the perimeter. Would the space between them present any issues, even though it would be minuscule?Just another clown trying to be cool
Reply:I like the style of Detox's table best, cause you can sit with you legs and the pedal under the table while welding.Just my humble opinion.Regards to all.Working on cars and bikes is my hobby, learning to weld the pieces together is my quest.
Reply:just a lil tidbit, i welded a scrap piece of 2" square tube vertically to one side of our table at work. i do a lot of spot and tack welding, i can either hang the stick stinger in there by the handle or stick the end of a mig gun in there to keep it within easy reach. and no problems with arcing. i also drape part of the lead of a stinger over it so im not fighting the weight of the cable when i weld......
Reply:Originally Posted by zipzitNctox, those flanges on the side of that vise plate create a clever way to keep the vise from rocking on the fillet weld underneath the plate. How did you form those, on a heavy gauge sheet metal brake? How thick is that vise base plate? Do you have a vise storage location on your table's undercarriage as well?Nice work!--zip
Reply:Nctox, Funny you answering me now. I'm going to use your concept for mounting my vise, except go to 1/4" flat plate, because that's what I have. To reduce the impact of the weld fillet (between the receiver insert and the flat plate) from keeping the vise plate flat to the table top, I'm going to chain drill the flat plate, to create a square through hole. Then bevel and weld on the top side. I think that will work okay. I've actually been working on this today. I just finished drilling a 1" round bar stock in preparation for a 45 cut.. which will get welded to the receiver tube corner, then drilled and tapped to keep the vise tight within the receiver. A lot of work without a mill, sigh. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to scribe two 45 degree lines on a piece of round stock in preparation for the hack saw.I'm considering an upgrade to the tubenotcher program to do it for me... It will take me two hours of programming. ugh. ref: http://www.cobratorch.net/ttn_dxf/ Might be a useful upgrade, if accompanied with how to photos. thanks for the insight.zip.
Reply:zip, Sounds interesting. I'd like to see pics, when you have time.Nctox, Stickmate LX 235AC/160DC HH210
Reply:Here is my table 60" x 120" 1/2" thick with 4" x 4" 3/16" Legs Attached Images
Reply:rookiemower, that's a great looking table! One question, what size (brand?) casters did you use on it, and is it comfortable....difficult to move? I've got to imagine the table is fairly heavy.Thanks,SailinonTotal noob to weldingAuto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.-Hemmingway
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