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Can you help me identify this electrode?

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发表于 2021-8-31 23:29:05 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
I have a new (old stock) box (50 lbs) of electrodes that I do not plan to weld anything with.However, I'm still curious what they are. Appearances aren't everything of course, but the flux appears flawless, and they've been stored in rubber sealed cylinders. It would be a shame to scrap them in ignorance, without even knowing what they were, when they could be baked in a rod oven and then burned for practice or purposed for making art.  But before lighting them up in trial and error, it would be nice to have an idea about what they are.Can you help me identify them if I list the ingredients on the MSDS?The manufacturer (CAT, as in Caterpillar) denies any and all knowledge of them, but that is understandable, because CAT was named in that huge class action suit against welding rod manufacturers for the hazards of welding fumes.  CAT was dismissed from that lawsuit back in 2007, and got the heck out of the rebranding of welding rod business, which I think they entered into back in 1971 or 72.  This MSDS is dated in 1994.Several different tactics to obtain information directly from CAT have all turned up nothing.  And it isn't as though the employees at CAT aren't trying.  They just are not finding any information about the rods that CAT used to either manufacture or rebrand as their own.The rods I have are called CAT Super Hydro-Max 80.  The MSDS that came with them states the following ingredients:Iron  70-80%(Everything else below is listed as between 1-11%, with no more specificity as to the ratio of each)Manganese Titanium DioxideSodium SilicatePotassium SilicateCalcium CarbonateCalcium FlourideThere is no AWS A5.1-91 electrode classification number, either on the rod, or on the MSDS.The MSDS is not online.  It was small piece of paper folded up with the rods.  There is no other welding product manufacturer listed on the MSDS other than Caterpillar.  In other words, while one would think that another welding product company like Welco or Radnor or McKay or US Alloy or whoever might have OEM'd these rods for CAT to rebrand, there is no other company mentioned other than CAT. There is no CAT part number on the rod, and the rods were transferred into sealed tubes a long time ago, so there is no original CAT box to refer to.A fairly exhaustive search for various spellings and iterations of the words "CAT Super Hydro-Max 80" has yielded nothing.  This post will likely be the very first googlable online reference that evidences that these rods ever existed.The number 80 would seem to imply a tensile strength designation of 80,000... but that is an assumption with no other basis other than a guess.  And there is nothing to guess what the welding position, flux type, current type, or polarity should be for these rods, other than the ingredients list from the MSDS typed above.Looking over that ingredients list, can you help me identify what type of rod this might be, in terms of AWS classification?Last edited by Charles Brown; 08-30-2013 at 07:09 PM.Reason: (subject line change)Respectfully,Charles Brown
Reply:judging from the flux content its the equivalent to a lohi rod 8018'sLast edited by Bostick101; 08-30-2013 at 08:11 PM.
Reply:I would guess in the lohy family, knowing CAT it is probably 9018 11018.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
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