Another Trailer.....Let the Flaming begin!!

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Started building one of these last week, starting on the tractor first.  Had to remove the bed and the hoist cylinders, and now we are modifying the decks and ladders then will cut the bed pivot points off to start installing the hitch assembly.  This will be the third one of these I have put together, this one will have about 350 ton capacity.  Just for comparison, that's a D-10 sitting on there!  Using a CAT 777 for the tractor. Attached Images6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Please post photos, that looks like a helluva project!Details man Details!Mike
Reply:Well, a couple of things you really need to be sure about.1. I hope you at least have engineered drawings to follow. You can get them at Northern tool.2. I hope you don't plan on using your 110V mig welder on this. OR some chicom crap. This will need at least a buzz box with 1/8" 7018 or a Miller 211.3. You REALLY need to step back and evaluate your skills. After all, that school bus tour thru the mine wouldn't end well should that D10 fall off and roll into the bus full of school kids. Post alot of pics!!!Last edited by Stick-man; 10-06-2011 at 07:10 AM."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manWell, a couple of things you really need to be sure about.1. I hope you at least have engineered drawings to follow. You can get them at Northern tool.2. I hope you don't plan on using your 110V mig welder on this. OR some chicom crap. This will need at least a buzz box with 1/8" 7018 or a Miller 211.3. You REALLY need to step back and evaluate your skills. After all, that school bus tour thru the mine wouldn't end well should that D10 fall off and roll into the bus full of school kids. Post alot of pics!!!
Reply:wow just wow!   this is some seriously heavy work and you got the tools at your disposal to do it!  I would love to do some stuff in a place like that.  The only thing that would piss me off would be stading on a solid platform with rails and still having to tether off to the machine.  that just looks annoying.www.burdettenetworks.com
Reply:Nothing like having a few spare haul trucks just laying around??? You gotta be sh**ting me!Good looking work, how far are you moving things?Matt
Reply:Hi there ExpatWelder...I'm always interested to see your small Mickey Mouse projects  - you are so artisitic in your creative endeavours.As Stick-man suggested, you might want to consider stepping up to an 80 amp Harbor Freight welder for this project - even though it may stretch your budget some. Lucky you found some rod in the dumpster, that should save you some real $. OK to use?  You bet!  Flux coating (when you can find it) is fantastic stuff, and aged outdoors is ideal rod for an outdoors project; you don't want to use interior rod for an job that will be exposed to the outside elements. Always Remember - 'Safety First' is important to keep in mind.Good luck with your little project and remember, we're all here to help you and provide expert advice! Rick V 1 Airco Heliwelder 3A/DDR3 CTC 70/90 amp Stick/Tig Inverters in Parallel1 Lincoln MIG PAK 151 Oxy-Acet
Reply:Originally Posted by kburdwow just wow!   this is some seriously heavy work and you got the tools at your disposal to do it!  I would love to do some stuff in a place like that.  The only thing that would piss me off would be stading on a solid platform with rails and still having to tether off to the machine.  that just looks annoying.
Reply:There are definitely some Freedom issues there.Those guys are snapped off like on dog chains, not just one, all of them. Restricting Freedom of Movement like that could be a serious charge. Just wait until the safety inspector shows up.
Reply:Originally Posted by Matt_MaguireNothing like having a few spare haul trucks just laying around??? You gotta be sh**ting me!Good looking work, how far are you moving things?Matt
Reply:Originally Posted by Rick VHi there ExpatWelder...I'm always interested to see your small Mickey Mouse projects  - you are so artisitic in your creative endeavours.As Stick-man suggested, you might want to consider stepping up to an 80 amp Harbor Freight welder for this project - even though it may stretch your budget some. Lucky you found some rod in the dumpster, that should save you some real $. OK to use?  You bet!  Flux coating (when you can find it) is fantastic stuff, and aged outdoors is ideal rod for an outdoors project; you don't want to use interior rod for an job that will be exposed to the outside elements. Always Remember - 'Safety First' is important to keep in mind.Good luck with your little project and remember, we're all here to help you and provide expert advice!
Reply:Seriously though, what diameter rod do you generally use on that stuff?   1/4"?Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:.. KOOL TONKA TOYS..takes me back to ''79-81'' working at P&M coal mines near Gallop,NM loved the work hated the nasty black dustidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tigidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tig #2 used for sticklincoln sp100hh125dual arbor grinder polisher30 yrs of hand tools52 pitch blocks 6p-26prake gauge -pitch gaugeG&D prop repair 918-207-6938Hulbert,okla 74441
Reply:You get all the fun toys.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Let the flaming begin.... Yeah...Right. I look forward to pics of your progressLater,Jason
Reply:Originally Posted by Black WolfLet the flaming begin.... Yeah...Right. I look forward to pics of your progress
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawSeriously though, what diameter rod do you generally use on that stuff?   1/4"?
Reply:5mm = 0.19685039 inches."These instructions are at our present level ofknowledge. Legal requirements do not exist.Technical issues subject to change."_________________________________________Lincoln MIG PAK 180Lincoln AC-225
Reply:Originally Posted by Hardware5mm = 0.19685039 inches.
Reply:ok I dont see the HF 110volt welder for this project..................Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most...I know just enough about everything to be dangerous......You cant cure stupid..only kill it...
Reply:he is building his own "buzz box"  from scrap  look in the second set of pics you will see the orange cords used for the leadsmust be behind the welding screen  [ he can't give away his homemade welder for fear of copyrightidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tigidealarc 250/250 ac-dc tig #2 used for sticklincoln sp100hh125dual arbor grinder polisher30 yrs of hand tools52 pitch blocks 6p-26prake gauge -pitch gaugeG&D prop repair 918-207-6938Hulbert,okla 74441
Reply:I'm wondering about the coupler. Is the coupler an in-house design?Will the same joint handle both pitch and yaw?Is it a detachable coupling,  or semi-permanent?Thanks for the pics, Expat.Good Luck
Reply:Look at the front of the trailer, when It is un coupled from the truck the front sits on the ground and has ramps that you drive up.  If you're not using the trailer, the fifth wheel assembly slides forward closer to the front of the truck and the hootis that couples to the trailer then couples directly to the front of another truck, lifts the fornt off the ground and off you go.  It does rotate.6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:...."hootis" IS a word.........I made it up, so i know its a word6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of Welpers
Reply:Here's a little better pic of what it will look like Attached Images6 Miller Big Blue 600 Air Paks2 Miller 400D6 Lincoln LN-25's4 Miller Xtreme 12VS2 Miller Dimension 812 4 Climax BW-3000Z bore welders Hypertherm 65 and 85Bug-O Track BugPair of WelpersOriginally Posted by Rick Vyou don't want to use interior rod for an job that will be exposed to the outside elements.
Reply:Now just build a BBQ pit/Smoker on it and you can feed the whole crew. That's when the Flaming begins. Throw on 7 or 8 sides of elephant and 4 or 5 dozen ostriches and kick back with a few kegs til it's done  Every company needs to have a company cookout every now and then.
Reply:I think you need to build a welding table first, with all kidding aside.... this is awesome. I love seeing projects like this, one of the reasons why I joined this site.Lincoln pro mig 180Lincoln Square Wave Tig 300/wp 20/home built water cooler Victor, Purox, Harris, O/A welding/cutting setupsVintage Craftsman drill pressVintage Craftsman/Atlas 12"x 36'' lathe7''x 12'' w/c band saw Everlast 140 st
Reply:Wow that's going to be a huge projects can't waiter see your progress.SIN CITY METAL WORKSvisit my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/devvon
Reply:Maybe should consider a hf flux core unit to speed things up.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Now that is a project!!!I think you have the greatest job there is... sometimes hahahaha
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderJust yesterday we had an ISO/OHSAS--(kinda like MSHA) inspection and when they came to where the guys were working on this thing, one of them was tied off but had his lanyard wrapped around his neck????  Anyway, I got a call and had some serious explaining to do, then the hide stripping began---****e rolls downhill
Reply:Originally Posted by Hardware5mm = 0.19685039 inches.
Reply:Expat, think you could send me four wheels from that tractor?  I wanna put them on my Jeep CJ 4x4 project   Seriusly, can't wait to see the in-progress pics of this job...do you ever work on anything small? --Wintermute"No man's knowledge here can go beyond his experience." - John Lockewww.improvised-engineering.comManufacturer Agnostic:Blood----------Sweat---------Tears----|------------------|----------------|----Lincoln Red, Miller Blue, Esab Yellow
Reply:Maybe with the off-cut left overs you can make a welding cart to out Gucci all of us!!!!!200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:Thats the MOTHER of all projects have fun!wboldenMiller Shopmaster 300Miller Syncrowave 250Miller Thunderbole 250/150 AC-DCMiller Weldpack 140 w/autosetMiller S-22 WirefeederLincoln 255 xt Mig welderLincoln 216 Mig welderVictor,Smith and Harris OA7X 12 JET BANDSAW
Reply:w_o_w
Reply:Did I see some bed frames in post #4 pic #1?OOPs, my mistake carry on!
Reply:Did I see some bed frames in post #4 pic #1?OOPs, my mistake carry on!
Reply:Originally Posted by wintermuteExpat, think you could send me four wheels from that tractor?  I wanna put them on my Jeep CJ 4x4 project   Seriusly, can't wait to see the in-progress pics of this job...do you ever work on anything small? --Wintermute
Reply:Originally Posted by ExpatWelderJust the tires are 24,000.00 each, then there's the wheels-------then shipping...........not real cost effectiveAs far as working on small stuff...........somtimes I get to TIG up a hydraulic pipe or somthing similar, I really like the little stuff occasionally.  Tomorrow we are starting a little line-boring job on an excavator, just 2 ten inch holes that are about 18 inches deep and 6 foot apart, I look forward to those little jobs too.
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWAdd to that the fact each wheel / rim  empty weighs more than his CJ does. I hear you on the cost of the tires. We got a steal on a set of 75% good tires for our 988. Mechanic we knew pulled them off a used pan his company bought and wanted to install the same tires they had on all the other ones. I was floored at what that set new ran at the time. Explained why ours were nearly bald. I think the new tires alone cost more than we paid for the 988 used.
Reply:Expat,Any new photos of this beast?Mike
Reply:i build a 400 ton haul truck! that makes this thing look small!
Reply:Originally Posted by sixxgeeeei build a 400 ton haul truck! that makes this thing look small!
Reply:Originally Posted by sixxgeeeei build a 400 ton haul truck! that makes this thing look small!
Reply:Originally Posted by d110pickupExpat,Any new photos of this beast?Mike
Reply:Gotta love the stuff that is big enough to see and adjust with a sledge.  Thats a great idea and a way cool project to get to do.  Like everybody else said pics as you go please.  Im sure they will be awesome,BobI'm spending my Kids inheritance, I dont like him that much anyway!!!!!!Enuff tools to do the job, enough sense to use em.Anybody got a spare set of kidneys?  Trade?
Reply:Originally Posted by ThorsHammerPics or it didn't happen.
Reply:Flame, Flame! You Suck! you can't build that, northern does not have that drawing! You should be ashamed of yourself, and how will you ever turn that around in a Subway parking lot.   This is why people Weld, to boldly go where no man has gone before. This is and awesome project but I have to ask. Everyone is in full coveralls and even some with safety vests, What is the average Temperature there, Faranheit please? And will you fab all the pieces on site or will they be made elsewhere and brought in for final assembly?"Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400