Is this acceptable?

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Not being a pipe welder by trade, and working union all my life. It's just not real healthy to get caught welding pipe by UA pipe welders! So I really don't know what is acceptable. This is 6-inch sch. 80 pipe, 5-G, the cap is 5/32-inch 6010. Is this tie in at 6-o'clock acceptable?I also included a picture at 12-o'clock. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:I dont know about the quality of the weld (looks good to me) but it sure is straight!!
Reply:6010 is always going to look a little rough to the unitiated, but it looks ok ! Try not to skip out of the puddle too much. Don't be afraid to "over fill" the top and sides- then "spray" on the cover pass with a few more amps.
Reply:I've always had a little trouble with overhead coming at me. No trouble at all going away from me. My depth perception isn't the best, I put my right eye out when I was 12, and started welding at 15. Started welding professionally at 17.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Examiners in test booths all have their own rules but IMHO if this weld was done on a boiler, pulp mill, or refinery job (uphill 6010?), I suspect that your foreman or quality control man would simply ask you to grind off the excess at 6 o'clock and overfill the crater at 12 o'clock and touch it with a grinder also.
Reply:Originally Posted by OldSparksExaminers in test booths all have their own rules but IMHO if this weld was done on a boiler, pulp mill, or refinery job (uphill 6010?), I suspect that your foreman or quality control man would simply ask you to grind off the excess at 6 o'clock and overfill the crater at 12 o'clock and touch it with a grinder also.
Reply:Funny thing is, I see UA welders with CWB tickets welding pipe support beams all the time on the job i'm on right now.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:I might be wrong, but here in the states I think that's their work.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPGood to know, thank you very much! I always wanted to be a pipe welder, but couldn't get in the union. One time I had the opportunity to get into the apprenticeship, but couldn't afford the cut in pay, you know how it is, with house, and car payments! So I just stuck it out doing structural. Now I have all the time in the world to play, kind of a bucket list thing.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldertomHead down south and be a pipe welder all you want. No private club membership required and no discrimination either.Open to all and plenty of work.
Reply:hi cep ,You are  weld instructor , why do you want to weld pipeDenlow .
Reply:Originally Posted by denlow60You are  weld instructor , why do you want to weld pipe
Reply:Originally Posted by denlow60hi cep ,You are  weld instructor , why do you want to weld pipeDenlow .
Reply:Don't forget to check your undercut. 1/32nd usually.  The Keystone XL Pipeline is mapped to come 1.5 miles from my place. BFE Montana, 35 miles to the grocery store.  It was a high of negative 25 during the day 3 days ago. Jan. and Feb are our colder months. If this project ever kicks off I'm sure pipe welding jobs wont be to hard to find for a while. Wear ya long handle undies.Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPNo I'm not a weld instructor. I'm a has been.Because pipe welders are the best. Everybody wants to be the best, right?
Reply:I'll accept it. Now get back to work!
Reply:It's all O'beam till they tie it in CEP.  Ironworkers local union 492Nashville TN
Reply:I was taught to cap pipe welding uphill progression by using a boot lace weave. Basically drawing Z's and pausing at the corners/edges of z pattern. This technique gives a lot of control in out of position as it is created small puddles that all tie in together. And on my cap tie ins I weld like 1" over my existing weld but speed up at the same time.Local 83
Reply:Originally Posted by RodBenderI was taught to cap pipe welding uphill progression by using a boot lace weave. Basically drawing Z's and pausing at the corners/edges of z pattern. This technique gives a lot of control in out of position as it is created small puddles that all tie in together. And on my cap tie ins I weld like 1" over my existing weld but speed up at the same time.
Reply:Rodbender, that's a nice looking 6010 weave.. But it looks like a downhill weld to me.Airco Ac/Dc 300 HeliwelderMillerMatic 200 (stolen)Miller Maxstar 150STLMiller AEAD200LE (welding and generating power) Hobart MIG
Reply:Back in the 1960s, and 70s when I worked in a lot of oil refineries, you would see quite a few Texas lase welds. I always liked the looks of this weld.  Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPBack in the 1960s, and 70s when I worked in a lot of oil refineries, you would see quite a few Texas lase welds. I always liked the looks of this weld.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPBack in the 1960s, and 70s when I worked in a lot of oil refineries, you would see quite a few Texas lase welds. I always liked the looks of this weld.
Reply:I've played with the Texas lase with 7018, I'm just not coordinated enough to pull it off!   Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:The lace was done with rutile rods ( 6010/ 7010-A1) guys. We never saw a 7018 on the Gulf Coast until we got inside a refinery. CEP- Try it with a 6010 - it will lay on there nicely.Originally Posted by CEPNo I'm not a weld instructor. I'm a has been.Because pipe welders are the best. Everybody wants to be the best, right?
Reply:Originally Posted by denlow60I hope you get your target range .but a boiler welder or a platform welder or a  manipulator welder are also powerful welders
Reply:Originally Posted by weldertomHere is why he wants to weld pipe......Attachment 555951
Reply:you can't butterfly lace with a 7018!I had a job in Freeport TX working for Fish Eng. building an offshore deck section way back in 1980. Old Mobil inspector on the job wanted everything with a butterfly lace, even the little bitty socket welds. What a pain in the butt.We used to flush the butt welds out, then run a stringer down the middle of the last filler, then put the lace cap over that, keeps the middle from coming out too flat.But it wasn't much fun trying to get a horizontal weld to look good.
Reply:Originally Posted by TimmyTIGyou can't butterfly lace with a 7018!
Reply:Originally Posted by TimmyTIGyou can't butterfly lace with a 7018!I had a job in Freeport TX working for Fish Eng. building an offshore deck section way back in 1980. Old Mobil inspector on the job wanted everything with a butterfly lace, even the little bitty socket welds. What a pain in the butt.We used to flush the butt welds out, then run a stringer down the middle of the last filler, then put the lace cap over that, keeps the middle from coming out too flat.But it wasn't much fun trying to get a horizontal weld to look good.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPOh I just play, my working days are way behind me now!What is a platform and manipulator welder?
Reply:Originally Posted by snoeproeFunny thing is, I see UA welders with CWB tickets welding pipe support beams all the time on the job i'm on right now.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPBack in the 1960s, and 70s when I worked in a lot of oil refineries, you would see quite a few Texas lase welds. I always liked the looks of this weld.