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I would appreciate some thoughts on these two brands/types of welders. Based on online reviews, it seems I can't really go wrong with either. My first project is to tack/weld in a rust replacement panel (~19 gauge) and then after that probably some exhaust work. I really don't want to spend more than $500 and even that's pushing it for me. I can't decide between the following:1.) Buy a entry level wire feed with mig capability ~ 200-$350 Try my projects with the flux core first and see how it does. Upgrade to MIG/GAS if it's not working out.2.) Buy a entry level wire feed and add Gas immediately. With tank/wire/fill probably a $500 or so investment3.) Get the Lincoln/Hobart 140's for ~$500 and get a little better than entry level out of the gates and up grade to MIG/GAS later down the road.If someone can confirm I can tack/weld in a rust replacement panel at ~25-30AMP output with .03" flux core wire I will go with one of the 140 units. Both those units have approx. the same output voltage range and wire size range. They both advertise capability of welding down to 24gauge metal, however I believe that's with the use of MIG/GAS. At the minimum heat setting with flux core I'm worried about burning through the patch panel.I'm not overly concerned with max capabilities, whether it be 3/16" or 1/4" max thickness. Kind of leaning toward the Hobart 140 and hoping flux core and lowest heat setting will work for my immediate needs. I am aware of the splatter etc with flux core.
Reply:Among the machines you have mentioned, the HH140 is my pick. I have one, and it is a quality machine. Since I have other , larger Migs, the HH140 is usually set up with flux core for portable work.
Reply:Originally Posted by copeAmong the machines you have mentioned, the HH140 is my pick. I have one, and it is a quality machine. Since I have other , larger Migs, the HH140 is usually set up with flux core for portable work.
Reply:Short answer, No, flux core is not what you want to be using for patch panels, not gonna happen. Either get a Mig setup, use a torch, or heck glue the patch panel in....
Reply:Originally Posted by makoman1860Short answer, No, flux core is not what you want to be using for patch panels, not gonna happen. Either get a Mig setup, use a torch, or heck glue the patch panel in....
Reply:The torch will probably destroy the paint for about 4-5" around the weld area. Filler would be RG-45. Distortion is up to the sequence of welding and part geometry. Practice on sheet material a bit first. What type of torch do you have?
Reply:You are eventually going to want/need A-25 and solid wire. Prices of cylinders and wire will not be going down any time soon. An 80 cf cylinder isn't that expensive.http://store.cyberweld.com/shielgascyl8.htmlLast edited by cope; 08-18-2011 at 01:54 PM.
Reply:Just your average Home Depot oxy/act. Torch kit with small tanks, molded carrier etc. Been the best "tool" I've ever invested in and I'm sure a welder will be a close 2nd or 3rd. Don't think I'll attempt to torch it in place, I don't want to damage paint to that 4-5" radius. Looks like I will cough up the $$ for the welder. Just found a craigslist ad for a millermatic 135 w/tank and auto darkening helmet. ($650) I know the Miller's are good machines, but it's used. So Ion't know if I should go with the Hobart 140 ($500) rent a bottle (??$40?? A year Plus fill up) and then get a harbor freight mask. (standard or auto darkening) I Do already have a mask but it's about 4 hours away right now......
Reply:Originally Posted by swamper8Just your average Home Depot oxy/act. Torch kit with small tanks, molded carrier etc. Been the best "tool" I've ever invested in and I'm sure a welder will be a close 2nd or 3rd. Don't think I'll attempt to torch it in place, I don't want to damage paint to that 4-5" radius. Looks like I will cough up the $$ for the welder. Just found a craigslist ad for a millermatic 135 w/tank and auto darkening helmet. ($650) I know the Miller's are good machines, but it's used. So Ion't know if I should go with the Hobart 140 ($500) rent a bottle (??$40?? A year Plus fill up) and then get a harbor freight mask. (standard or auto darkening) I Do already have a mask but it's about 4 hours away right now......
Reply:Originally Posted by copeThe MM135 isn't half the machine that the HH140 is. I have owned both.
Reply:Originally Posted by swamper8I've already cut/fit the panel as if I would be welding it in, not any overlap left for glue :-( You mentioned torch? I do have a oxy/act torch set but thought that would put too much heat into the panel(s)? I would appreciate some tips as to how to do it with a torch as that would save me the immediate cost of the MIG welder. (I.E. am I using some type of filler rod or just trying to puddle the metal together from each panel?) I am trying to save the paint close to the patch though, maybe 1/2" away. Would the torch heat be a issue?
Reply:Originally Posted by joe6You can still glue it, you just have to glue a pice of metal to the back of the panel thats on the car and then glue the patch panel to that. Thats how you should do it anyways
Reply:Originally Posted by copeyou are eventually going to want/need a-25 and solid wire. Prices of cylinders and wire will not be going down any time soon. An 80 cf cylinder isn't that expensive.http://store.cyberweld.com/shielgascyl8.html
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