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I dont weld stainless. My brother is a disabled VET. Served in VN with the 101 Airborn. He loves hotdogs. His 60th birthday is in October. I called welding shops in my area. Either its too small of a job or they want $150. This is NUTS! Can one of you guys make a 2 of these guys? Please e-mail me at  [email protected] Attached Images
Reply:This site has them for sale. http://roastmyweenie.com/This was my favorite: Attached Images
Reply:Thanks. I e-mailed that shop that shot me that $100+ price and told him he was out of his mind.
Reply:Outstanding catch forhire!Marsha Mello! LOLMatt
Reply:Keep in mind that there's a big difference between hand fab'ing these, out of material shape/sizes they may not keep in inventory, and may not be familiar with hand forming. And getting them machine cut, in big quantities, from flat sheet, in China. You may actually be paying 10 times the mark up on the China ones!!!!! I think you're out of line saying the other shop is "nut's". Just my two cents 200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:2 ss nuts, two pieces of ss filler, and 6 or 7 tack welds each for $100?  I'm going to agree that they're nuts.  Although, it's likely more of a "I don't feel like doing it" than "this really costs $100."
Reply:Originally Posted by Supe2 ss nuts, two pieces of ss filler, and 6 or 7 tack welds each for $100?  I'm going to agree that they're nuts.  Although, it's likely more of a "I don't feel like doing it" than "this really costs $100."
Reply:I made lots of them awhile back....http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ighlight=dudes...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by jdod85I dont weld stainless.
Reply:Ive made a bunch of these also. Borrowed a tri mix tank from a friend at the gas store and tacked them all up. It hardly takes any gas. You could also do it with your tig machine.UA Local 598
Reply:Originally Posted by Supe2 ss nuts, two pieces of ss filler, and 6 or 7 tack welds each for $100?  I'm going to agree that they're nuts.  Although, it's likely more of a "I don't feel like doing it" than "this really costs $100."
Reply:Having worked in both tool and die, and in race car fab, I'm all too familiar with the guys off the street who pull the "this can be done for free in five minutes blindfolded."But, we're talking about a stainless steel stick figure.  I doubt the guy walking in off the street looking for a hot dog schlong grill guy cares about the semantics of drawing prints, measurements, or whether it's tailored for a Nathans or a Hummell.  It's a weenie holder, and the only weenie holders that should cost $100 come with 30 minutes in Vegas.
Reply:By Supe;It's a weenie holder, and the only weenie holders that should cost $100 come with 30 minutes in Vegas.
Reply:That's one of those customer jobs that, if I took it, I'd be doing it more for the fun of it than for the money, cause the amount of time spent on it would be more than it's really worth charging for.  These kind of projects are really only cost effective if by the do-it-yourselfer, or friend-with-a-welder, rather than hired out to a real welding shop where time = money.  Otherwise, buy the made in China cheap-o and be happy.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op
Reply:Well you registered but you didnt put your location in your profile or in the original post, someone might be willing to help you but knowing where you are would be benifitial.MAC WS1110 Mig WelderWoodworker HobbyistDelta 10" Table Saw, Delta Planer, Bosch and Craftsman Routers, 48" Craftsman Lathe, drill press, 1/2" hand and cordless drills, scroll saw, skill saws, jig saws, etc, and too many hand tools to list, lol
Reply:I live in Normal Illinois
Reply:Originally Posted by Supe the only weenie holders that should cost $100 come with 30 minutes in Vegas.
Reply:Joke around these parts is why did the people move to Bloomington? (adjoining city)  To be near Normal.Last edited by Bob the Welder; 06-16-2010 at 02:10 PM.Reason: Spelling"The man of great wealth owes a peculiar obligation to the State, because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government."  Teddy RooseveltAmerican by birth, Union by choice!  Boilermakers # 60America is a Union.
Reply:I kind of find it ironic that someone is complaining about not being able to find something, but then also complaining that when he does, it costs too much.Some local guys suggested I do these once....but it's one of those things where it's not worth my time.    The demand isn't there for what the end price would be.   They look simple, but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair.   If you want them cheap, do them yourself.   If you can't, don't bitch about the cost.browndogwelding.com@welderassassinMy Blog on The Fabricatorfacebook.com/BrownDogWelding
Reply:Originally Posted by jdustuI kind of find it ironic that someone is complaining about not being able to find something, but then also complaining that when he does, it costs too much.Some local guys suggested I do these once....but it's one of those things where it's not worth my time.    The demand isn't there for what the end price would be.   They look simple, but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair.   If you want them cheap, do them yourself.   If you can't, don't bitch about the cost.
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireThis site has them for sale. http://roastmyweenie.com/This was my favorite:
Reply:Hey jdod85...!Did you order your 'Weiner guys' yet?  If not, PM me your address and I'll be happy to make a couple of those for your Brother!  No charge for the goods, just reimbursment of the shipping cost...Cheers,/Jman....Miller Diversion 165120 amp Buzz BoxVictor Oxy/Ace Oxy/LPGSmith "Little" Oxy/LPGHypertherm Powermax 30Lot's of Misc. tools n' crap....
Reply:Originally Posted by jmanLOL....  That's a pretty arrogant statement actually.. heh, heh   What kind of 'Skill Set' do YOU think that you possess that makes a simple 'HOT DOG' Weiner Guy so 'beyond you'?  They're made from of a piece of 'stainless steel' rod and NUT for the head and some type of base to keep em' 'erect'!  ha hah...  Gimme a break man, it's not about how YOU want it done, it's about what the OP was looking for, wasn't it?  If I read it correctly, the OP was simply 'unaware' of 'where' or how to acquire said 'Weiner Guy' and was 'shocked' at the price....  Honestly, I'm a bit puzzled by your attitude... Are you NOT a RETAILER who is flogging your wares through your ETSY and your Website?  As a business man and 'professional', you of all people should KNOW BETTER than making a 'statement' like that...
Reply:Hotdog man is so 2006, a thing of the past.Corngirl is 2010.  She has one hell of a rack on her, makes Dollie look flatchested.
Reply:Originally Posted by jdustuI'm sorry if that's the attitude you get, I'm not by any means trying to be like that.    What I was trying to say is that I know how long it would take me to put together the product; from finding the materials, to doing the welding, to the cleaning, packaging, and shipping....I charge a certain rate for my TIME.   You'll notice that the link with the cheap holders is for mass produced cut and bent flat metal figures.   There is a huge difference in cost when something is produced in quantity over and over again using a streamlined process.   That's not what I do.    Everything I make is one off, and they would have been one off for the shops he got quotes from too.  I'm not gonna lie, it hits a nerve with me when people wanna say something is "expensive" and they want to compare a one off piece with some mass produced.   You pay for something unique.    And for me, it's not just how the OP wants it done.  That's definitely part of it, but like you noticed, I sell a lot of stuff online.  I'm not sending out ANYTHING that isn't up to my standards.    It's a little more than a rod and some nuts slapped together.    Of course that "attitude" may be why I have many, many loyal clients.Originally Posted by old farthotdog man is so 2006, a thing of the past.Corngirl is 2010.  She has one hell of a rack on her, makes dollie look flatchested.
Reply:Originally Posted by jmanHey jdod85...!Did you order your 'Weiner guys' yet?  If not, PM me your address and I'll be happy to make a couple of those for your Brother!  No charge for the goods, just reimbursment of the shipping cost...Cheers,/Jman....
Reply:Originally Posted by jmanMan, I totally understand where YOU are coming from, but Like I said,....  It's not what 'you want', it's what he wants.  Admittedly there is a HUGE difference between a BELT BUCKLE or 'Objet d'Art' that YOU OR I spend time CREATING, POLISHING and making 'perfect' for a CLIENT.  This is something that gets put together and then a HOTDOG is stuck on it like a ***** and it goes into the FIRE.  It's simple, completely NON labour intensive and should NOT be taken seriously...  After all, it's a FUN thing, isn't it?,
Reply:I made a few of these with long sticks to roast a hotdog in a fire pit. I know that they are available on Ebay. If you really need one I can weld one up for a VET. Let me know if you still need one we can work out a deal on shipping. it cost me maybe $5 or $6 buck to build one.Scott
Reply:They look simple, but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair. ,
Reply:Originally Posted by 9erhaternow for the record you do awesome art, but what is so special about your keychains that you do to charge 15 bucks each for , the ones I am refering to is the sparkplug and the bicycle chain ones,  sorry putting a keyring through a hole of a chain....reallybut you dont feel that 1 nut and 7 spot welds is worthy of your time. I understand the little jobs seem petty. but you never know if that hot dog guy, may have brought in bigger and better projects. I would say it is safe to say that weld shop will not be seeing that guys business in the future.  maybe a trailer, or a friend asking for a welding referral. just my 2 cents. not trying to pick a fight
Reply:Here is my first attempt. Not stainless (obviously). I too am giving this to a disabled vet (motorcycle accident) hope he likes it. Attached ImagesDave ReberWadsworth Ohio
Reply:I in no way have a fabulous "skill set" that being said if you are a welder and your " skill set " wouldn't allow you to build these in all of 15 minutes and for much less than 100 dollars, You should re evaluate your skill set.  If I were within a 30 mile radius of you I would put together a couple of these, buy some dogs and head over to your brother's place to drink some of his beers , tell some lies, and shake his hand for his service."Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:I made one like these for my dad he loved it. He brought it to work to show the guys and I have had offers to make them for $40 I made mine with raw steel and a stainless eye hook for the holder. I would make ones to sell to friends out of all stainless. I just did not have access to stainless last min."The most important thing about the job is getting the job done"
Reply:I thought about this a lot and decided to go out on a limb and give my $.02 worth.  I'll probably get a ton of #%$* for expressing my opinion, but heck, as a 'former active' Marine, I have thick skin.The statement that 'but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair' is ludicrous!  To come up with that cost you'd have to be totally inept or your hourly rate is rediculous.I'm not a professional welder but simply a business man.  I weld as a hobby and have welded a few hot dog men.  Several of my friends and family members got a kick out of them and the next thing I know I had requests for a dozen.  Not wanting to spend a ton of time making them , I decided to 'mass produce' them.  I made one trip to my local welding supply store for the rod, stopped on the way home for the nuts (heads) and expanded metal  (feet) at Home Depot.  I cut twelve pair of expanded metal 'feet', then 12 stick bodies, then 24 legs, then 24 arms and finally 12 wiener holders - all with one 4" cut-off wheel,. I  MIG (Milermatic 175) welded the hotdog men together using maybe 6" of wire.  Total time - not including shopping, one hour - that's right - ONE HOUR.  At only $10/weiner holder,  I would have netted $100, after material and even the cost of gas!  It is no wonder that jobs of this so-called 'skill' level are leaving this country.  Businesses that employee people with such high opinion of their 'skills' (at that outrageous hourly rate) who can't find a way to produce a simple 'hot dog' holder cost effectively are doomed - period.  This attitude is too often reflected in their regular jobs - too 'beneath' them. It's not the 'skill' that is important, it's the attitude.  A Marine flight instructor once told me a universal truth - 'if you have enough bananas, you can teach monkeys to fly'.  Simple (or complex) technical skills nowadays are comodities - you can get them anywhere and they're getting cheaper by the day.  For long term viability, people with technical skills must have or develop the attitude that one of the best US companies, Lincoln Electric,  espouses - better, faster, cheaper.   Better made, faster production and less expensive.  And if you still think Unions are the answer, look no further that the US auto companies or your local unemplyment office.Semper Fi
Reply:Originally Posted by reefera4mI thought about this a lot and decided to go out on a limb and give my $.02 worth.  I'll probably get a ton of #%$* for expressing my opinion, but heck, as a 'former active' Marine, I have thick skin.The statement that 'but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair' is ludicrous!  To come up with that cost you'd have to be totally inept or your hourly rate is rediculous.I'm not a professional welder but simply a business man.  I weld as a hobby and have welded a few hot dog men.  Several of my friends and family members got a kick out of them and the next thing I know I had requests for a dozen.  Not wanting to spend a ton of time making them , I decided to 'mass produce' them.  I made one trip to my local welding supply store for the rod, stopped on the way home for the nuts (heads) and expanded metal  (feet) at Home Depot.  I cut twelve pair of expanded metal 'feet', then 12 stick bodies, then 24 legs, then 24 arms and finally 12 wiener holders - all with one 4" cut-off wheel,. I  MIG (Milermatic 175) welded the hotdog men together using maybe 6" of wire.  Total time - not including shopping, one hour - that's right - ONE HOUR.  At only $10/weiner holder,  I would have netted $100, after material and even the cost of gas!  It is no wonder that jobs of this so-called 'skill' level are leaving this country.  Businesses that employee people with such high opinion of their 'skills' (at that outrageous hourly rate) who can't find a way to produce a simple 'hot dog' holder cost effectively are doomed - period.  This attitude is too often reflected in their regular jobs - too 'beneath' them. It's not the 'skill' that is important, it's the attitude.  A Marine flight instructor once told me a universal truth - 'if you have enough bananas, you can teach monkeys to fly'.  Simple (or complex) technical skills nowadays are comodities - you can get them anywhere and they're getting cheaper by the day.  For long term viability, people with technical skills must have or develop the attitude that one of the best US companies, Lincoln Electric,  espouses - better, faster, cheaper.   Better made, faster production and less expensive.  And if you still think Unions are the answer, look no further that the US auto companies or your local unemplyment office.Semper Fi
Reply:Originally Posted by reefera4mThe statement that 'but to do them right with what I charge for my skills it would easily be 100+ for a pair' is ludicrous!  To come up with that cost you'd have to be totally inept or your hourly rate is rediculous.I'm not a professional welder but simply a business man.  I weld as a hobby and have welded a few hot dog men.  Several of my friends and family members got a kick out of them and the next thing I know I had requests for a dozen.  Not wanting to spend a ton of time making them , I decided to 'mass produce' them.  I made one trip to my local welding supply store for the rod, stopped on the way home for the nuts (heads) and expanded metal  (feet) at Home Depot.  I cut twelve pair of expanded metal 'feet', then 12 stick bodies, then 24 legs, then 24 arms and finally 12 wiener holders - all with one 4" cut-off wheel,. I  MIG (Milermatic 175) welded the hotdog men together using maybe 6" of wire.  Total time - not including shopping, one hour - that's right - ONE HOUR.  At only $10/weiner holder,  I would have netted $100, after material and even the cost of gas!
Reply:As Mr. government employee stated, "not including travel time".  The very reason I got out of Stained Glass. Too many hobbyists not charging what stuff is worth.200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:understand fuel and travel time, but if you have to go to home depot everytime someone wants a switch, no wonder you have a hard time turning a profit. If your in the electrical trade shouldn't some things be stock items on hand in the truck at all times, unless it's a specialty or decorative item?  Home Depot? how about supply house?"Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:Kolot, I do general home repairs. I keep basic things on the truck, standard and paddle style switches and outlets in white, (about 3 of each in standard, 2 in the "euro" paddle style. A few almond standard switches and outlets. But there's no way I can afford to keep all the options and styles, 3ways, dimmers, lighted switches, all the different switch plates, etc on hand "just in case". Same with plumbing items. I keep basic S and P traps in 1 1/4" and 1 1/2", supply lines, a fairly decent selection of shutoffs, and 1/2" pipe fittings, the basics in 3/4" and an assortment of 1-1/4"- 1- 1/2" PVC, toilet repair parts and so on. I keep a bigger selection at the house for whan I know I'm doing a specific job, but there's only so much room on the truck, even with an 11' body ( there are times I wished I'd gone with the 14' bed I looked at). Same goes with tape, paint, caulk, roof patch, drywall patching supplies, nails ( hand and pneumatic), screws, plumbing washers, standard washers, hinges, glue, picture hooks, wall anchors, light bulbs ( standard, CFL's, chandelier, and flood), 2 large multi drawer boxes of cabinet shelf pins, mirror hooks, and assorted misc, one box for misc elect ( wire nuts in the 3 major sizes and assorted other, tape, staples, cable clamps, romex connectors, Phone stuff, Cat 5 parts, coax connectors)... I'd guess I have a minimum of $2000 + in "misc" on the truck as it is. Some of it is "leftovers" from when you have to buy 10 and only need 4, some are bought just to have in an emergency, some just as general stock. Where do you draw the line?.No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Boy I wish we could charge our hourly rate when we travel but no one in their right mind is going to pay someone a full rate to sit on their a$$ in a truck. Actually even if given the opportunity to charge it I wouldn't because it just not right.And kolot, come on man, big box is king!  If you want to buy cheap parts, crap lumber, and don't want to support small or local businesses.  HD and  Lowes is where its at!
Reply:Originally Posted by BillWho?And kolot, come on man, big box is king!  If you want to buy cheap parts, crap lumber, and don't want to support small or local businesses.  HD and  Lowes is where its at!
Reply:DSW, I agree that sometimes you don't have a choice. As far as your local supply house, if you start spending some dough there and let them know you are coming to them instead of HD or Lowes they usually work with you on pricing.
Reply:My regular suppliers are no problem. It's the ones that are out aways from where I usually shop that cause the issues. I just can't drop enough coin at a place thats 25-30 miles away on a regular basis. I also try to spread my sales around to 3 or 4 suppliers if possible that way I stay on their active list.I've run into the same sort of issues with my LWS. The branch near me knows me on sight and I never have any issues with them. However they've got other locations around the area and I usually don't get near the service I do locally, since they don't know me even though I have an account. I make a point now if I have to run to one of the other locations because it's closer to where I'm working to get fills or something, to call my regular guy and have him let the other place know I'm swinging by to grab something. I get better service that way it seems..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:DSW , thoutht about my preivous post and will say sorry, I know you can't keep everything on hand. I guess what really bothers me and probably a lot of you guys is that it seems some trades and services get away with murder in what they charge and most expect payment at time of service and travel time and more, Yet some of us try to charge a fair and decent rate and we get kicked all over town for it. Call the power company out for a non covered repair , Electricians and plumbers, quite expensive . I know these are specifically licensed trades and bring a premium but carpenters, and welders among others just don't get the same respect although any trade is a long and detailed learning process to do it right, all require expensive specialty equipment. Anybody ever have there well go dry and have to drill a new one during a dry season when all the drillers are busy. Prepare for a hard reaming, no grease, and smile right in your face while gouging the hell out of you. I guess it just depends on the old supply and demand and how much you need something, like water for instance.  As for Lowe's and HD, remember when they opened in your area, They had all kinds of help, you couldn't go in the door without someone greeting you and asking you what you needed, 20 registers ready to check you out, Now you go and it's wait a minute I'm, busy, if you can even find and employee, The 20 registers are still there but 4 are self service and maybe 1 or 2 are open with acutual people who are as slow as 90 weight in January.  Oh yeah, did I say I was bitter! LOL"Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400
Reply:Originally Posted by SupeBut, we're talking about a stainless steel stick figure.  I doubt the guy walking in off the street looking for a hot dog schlong grill guy cares about the semantics of drawing prints, measurements, or whether it's tailored for a Nathans or a Hummell.  It's a weenie holder, and the only weenie holders that should cost $100 come with 30 minutes in Vegas.
Reply:30 min. for $100. I guess the family vaction 2011 is planned!!!!!!!!!!!!Dave ReberWadsworth Ohio
Reply:At the big box stores, if you need help, like getting a sheet cut in half, and have waited 15 minutes and no one has come to the panel saw and the isles are a ghost town when it comes to staff. I have found the best way to get help is to go to the tool section, grab an extension cord and a circular saw and a straight edge. Go to the sheet goods isle and start cutting yourself. If they get to you before to pull the trigger, they are quite quick to cut your ****. If they don't, they'll let you finish your cut. No one making minimum wage wants to fook with a 250 lb. guy that looks pi$$ed and is holding a saw. "Home Depot.....You have to do it, cause we're not around to help"200amp Air Liquide MIG, Hypertherm Plasma, Harris torches, Optrel helmet, Makita angle grinders, Pre-China Delta chop saw and belt sander, Miller leathers, shop made jigs etc, North- welders backpack.
Reply:Wouldn't be the first time I stuck my lift keys in the lift and got what I needed down..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:what would be the downside to making these using mild steel? Im interested in making some but dont want to get all the stainless gear for a few small hotdog men.25 years of age.Been welding since Feb 23rd 2009.LU1007 Millwright (A1)