goin for weld test what to expect

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Long story short I am a self taught welder, I'm currently employed by a trailer manufacture that wants more and more from us but don't wanna share the wealth with us. Found this add on craigslist lookin for welders, haven't applied yet but was wondering what to expect as far as weld test. Here is what the add says:We are currently looking for experienced welders, we are needing 1G (flat surface welders) and 3G (horizontal, angled, and vertical welders). First mistake I've noticed is that horizontal isn't 3G it's 2G, Vertical is 3G but what is angled??? This company like many other company's use staffing agency's to hire there employee's. I went for a welding test several years ago when I was a lot younger and didn't have a whole lot of welding experience under my belt, needless to say I bombed it pretty bad. I'm a lot older now with my own gear and I practice every chance I get so I'm fairly confident that I at least have a shot at passing. Thanks in advance for advice.93 Bobcat 225GMillerMatic 135HF Tig 91811
Reply:If you test out on a 3G it certifies you to weld in all positions 1-4. This also is dependant upon which code they are certifying you on. For instance D1.1 in 3G is a 1" plate 22.5° bevel on each plate (backing plate for the root iirc) and certifies you to weld unlimited thickness in all positions on structural plate for that process as well as 24" and up pipe. Don't quote me it's been about 10-12 years since I read up on any certification codes. So take that with a grain of salt.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:If they're advertising on Craigs their knowledge and expectations are limited at best.You've been welding for a while. Just go in and say "Where is it?" and go weld it. 9 out of 10 "welders" can't actually weld.The various tests can be an eye opening experience.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyIf you test out on a 3G it certifies you to weld in all positions 1-4. This also is dependant upon which code they are certifying you on. For instance D1.1 in 3G is a 1" plate 22.5° bevel on each plate (backing plate for the root iirc) and certifies you to weld unlimited thickness in all positions on structural plate for that process as well as 24" and up pipe. Don't quote me it's been about 10-12 years since I read up on any certification codes. So take that with a grain of salt.
Reply:Like said, just go and ask what do you want me to weld? Most entry weld tests are not certification tests. Most of the time they are simple coupons just to see what kind of welding skill you have.
Reply:When I first started out, I got dispatched to a project. Boss didn't believe I could weld, I guess because I was so young, (17). He placed a 3/4-inch flat washer on the flange of a C-channel, said "weld it down". Never questioned my ability again.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:on your aws weld test d1.1 2g gual for flat and horizontal positions  3g qual for vertical flat and horizontal positions  4g gual for overhead only .  test plate two pices of 1"thick each beveld to 22.5 deg with a backup and fitted to a 1/4 to 3/8 root opening backup strip extends 1"on each end of test it will have to pass a visul test first thean to side bend  or xray  2/g qual for flat horizontal   3/g qual for flat horizontal and vertical only  4/g qual for overhead only      Houlihan aws qc1 cwi insp
Reply:Originally Posted by bernard houlihanon your aws weld test d1.1 2g gual for flat and horizontal positions  3g qual for vertical flat and horizontal positions  4g gual for overhead only .  test plate two pices of 1"thick each beveld to 22.5 deg with a backup and fitted to a 1/4 to 3/8 root opening backup strip extends 1"on each end of test it will have to pass a visul test first thean to side bend  or xray  2/g qual for flat horizontal   3/g qual for flat horizontal and vertical only  4/g qual for overhead only      Houlihan aws qc1 cwi insp
Reply:@ Tuscany - incorrect.  AWS D1.1 3G certification comes in two flavors.  Testing (and passing) on 3/8" plate certifies 1-2-3 F/G up to 3/4", while testing on 1" plate certifies 1-2-3 F/G positions for unlimited thickness.  4G is a completely separate test."Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Like I stated in my post, I said that it has been probably 10-12 years since I read up on any code or certified to any of them and to not quote me entirely as I may be mistaken on some aspects. I was however correct in most of my post just missed/forgot a couple small details. Also for the unlimited thickness test I said it was a 1" plate and gave the specs for the test required to give that specific certification. I am aware now that it doesn't certify any overhead. Thanks to those who do know the proper information and can correct my mistakes.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:so sorry about the punctuation and spelling as this is the first time I ben on a forem page I have done much typing I am also carry la city certs
Reply:It entirely depends on what sort of welding they're expecting of you, if they're doing heavy structural, it may be a bevelled butt join that may be tested for defect's, or it may be sheet metal, in which case they may only care about how it look's.A few generic tips i can give you are, most are about performing at your best on the day1. eat a good meal the nigh before, salad, veggies, lean meat ect, stay away from to much fat and salt.2. be properly hydrated, not just a cup of water, keep a bottle with you, and drink plenty in the days leading up to the weld test.3. get a good night's sleep beforehand, do some sort of physical activity to wear yourself down so you sleep well.4. stay away from alcohol the night beforem nothing will give you shaky hand syndrome more then hitting the drink the night before.5. ask them to show you what they're expecting, they should have some completed work in the shop as a benchmark, assume the standard is higher then the example they show you.
Reply:I know when we hire, we just have them throw some beads down in whatever they say they can do.your a stainless welder huh? go for it! they say pipe, they weld pipe, and so on. money is never wasted to actually TEST their welds. they are just watched closesly. if it looks like they can do what they say they can, they get hired on, THEN test, if they are good enough to work on stuff that requires certs.if they don't have a clue they get a salary and an office.bosses stuff:trailblazer 325maxstar 200my stuff:sa 200fronius transpocket 180100 amp Lincoln w/f97 f350 DITKevin