Flux cored wire suggestions...

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Guys I have a couple jobs coming up that I want to run my VS feeder on, and thought some of you might be able to suggest a wire.  I have my suitcase set up for .035 solid wire now, but I have everything for it to go to 1/16th.  So I would like to run the 1/16th if possible. one of the jobs will be various welding on a dozier blade.  It's got to be re skinned, and the bar the blade bolts too will have to be replaced.  The other is some base plates for a fabricated metal building.  I want something with low hydrogen properties, and is multi pass allowable.  My LWS doesn't stock a lot of Flux cored because it's just not used alot in our area so I want to try a few different brands and decide which I like so they can keep it on the shelf for me.   Thanks in advance. ~JacksonI'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:Jackson,I can recommend several products, but some added details would help narrow the field.Do you want a self shielded flux-core or a gas-shielded flux core product?What alloy is the dozer bucket?To start off, for lower strength steels and some low alloy steels, in a gas shielded product, you could use:  Triple7http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...ts/Triple7.pdfThis is specified as E71T-1C H8, E71T-1M H8 per AWS A5.20, an H8 low hydrogen product.  It's all position and friendly to use.  Comes in 0.045, 0.052, and 1/16" diameters.For self-shielded, you might go with:Fabshield XLR-8 - this is a low hydrogen, self-shielded wire for structural work.  It's spec'd as AWS A5.20/A5.20M, Class E71T-8J H8.  it is available in 1/16" diameter.http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...hieldXLR-8.pdfFor your dozer repair, maybe something else in a self-shielded wire would be better...but there's not much that's self shielded in 1/16" diameter.  You can get Fabshield 21B in 1/16" diameters, but depending on the alloy your dozer bucket is made of, it may not be up to the task...http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...bshield21B.pdf21B is spec'd AWS A5.20, E71T-11.  It is low hydrogen, but not impact rated like XLR-8.I think a gas shielded wire(100% CO2 or 75/25) will give you the best range of options, but there are some self shielded wires that might work too.  Provide some more details, and I can make further recommendations...Benson's Mobile Welding - Dayton, OH metro area - AWS Certified Welding Inspector
Reply:Originally Posted by A_DAB_will_doJackson,I can recommend several products, but some added details would help narrow the field.Do you want a self shielded flux-core or a gas-shielded flux core product?What alloy is the dozer bucket?To start off, for lower strength steels and some low alloy steels, in a gas shielded product, you could use:  Triple7http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...ts/Triple7.pdfThis is specified as E71T-1C H8, E71T-1M H8 per AWS A5.20, an H8 low hydrogen product.  It's all position and friendly to use.  Comes in 0.045, 0.052, and 1/16" diameters.For self-shielded, you might go with:Fabshield XLR-8 - this is a low hydrogen, self-shielded wire for structural work.  It's spec'd as AWS A5.20/A5.20M, Class E71T-8J H8.  it is available in 1/16" diameter.http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...hieldXLR-8.pdfFor your dozer repair, maybe something else in a self-shielded wire would be better...but there's not much that's self shielded in 1/16" diameter.  You can get Fabshield 21B in 1/16" diameters, but depending on the alloy your dozer bucket is made of, it may not be up to the task...http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...bshield21B.pdf21B is spec'd AWS A5.20, E71T-11.  It is low hydrogen, but not impact rated like XLR-8.I think a gas shielded wire(100% CO2 or 75/25) will give you the best range of options, but there are some self shielded wires that might work too.  Provide some more details, and I can make further recommendations...
Reply:i just saw on the miller website and artical about a company using  e71t-11 on galvanized railing installs etc.  is this a good all around wire to add to my trailer?  Is it shieldable with stargon?www.burdettenetworks.com
Reply:E71T-11 is self shielding
Reply:i sure dig that lincoln outershield 71 elite. good running stuff. esp with straight co2.
Reply:I  can also recomend a couple of gas sheilded wires. Hobart Formula 525 for C25 and Formula 550 for Co2. Exellent handling  wires and can be substituted for 7018. Never had a problem  with cracking  hot or cold.  Originaly used  Hobart Exsel Arc 71  but had cracking problems in heavy weldments. Don't know if you have ever used Flux Cored extensivly but once you start using it you will notice its fast  it stays where you put it and it aint comin apart.  When I reskin dozer blades in the field  I use Lincoln  NR212. But I think  there is a thickness limit on that wire  although never  had problems with it . Lincoln also has very good  Shielded wires but I'm  not as familiar with them as my LWS just started offering  Lincoln  hope this helps.
Reply:yeah i used that hobart wire once too and it was pretty nice. pretty similar to the 71 elite. anyone ran lincoln ultracore? id like to give that a try. heard it is nice.
Reply:To be honest, right now I do not know what alloy the dozier blade is.  It's a 10ft blade on an old 750 John deere.  I would like to try and run something that is self shielded if possible.  All of this work will be outside and I am worried that wind could be an issue with gas coverage, and hauling the extra bottle is starting to be too much to deal with.  Mainly I would like to start keeping a good general purpose self shielding wire on the truck. Most times that I will use the wire it will be on heavier pieces on equipment repair type jobs, and occaisional structural jobs.I'm a Lover, Fighter, Wild horse Rider, and a pretty good welding man......
Reply:JacksonWe run Lincoln and Hobart. The Hobart is usually the main one that we run. If you look at some of my other post and the kinds of problems i had when i first started to run flux, make sure to blow out your inner liner about every other day. It will help with the back burn. I will get the kind of Hobart that i run. We do those damn blades all the time with the holbart wire.The other thing is to run it hot.Aaron
Reply:Lincoln and Hobart web sites have all thier products listed  thier uses amps ,volts,limitations,wire size.welding positins and general usage lots of good info.
Reply:I run allot of dual shield wire on heavy metal, I like esab the best 7100lc. It is all position very fast and can put down allot of metal in one pass. 045 is what I run, if you machine is big enough you can really turn up the heat and run over 300 ipm. dual shield is a little more expensive but your clean up cost will make up for it. wind blocks are easy make.
Reply:If I was doing the job it would be a wind shield and either Lincoln outer shield 71m or Hobart Excel arc 71 and C-25. The 1/16" might be to much for the out of position work but .045 goes on pretty fast.
Reply:Excel Arc 71 is certainly another viable choice for these jobs.  Be aware that only the 0.045", 0.052" and 1/16" diameter product is certified H8 - low hydrogen.  The 0.035" is not H8 low hydrogen certified.Excel Arc 71 in 1/16" diameter is fine for out of position work.  http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...xcel_Arc71.pdf Originally Posted by lars66If I was doing the job it would be a wind shield and either Lincoln outer shield 71m or Hobart Excel arc 71 and C-25. The 1/16" might be to much for the out of position work but .045 goes on pretty fast.
Reply:Originally Posted by A_DAB_will_doExcel Arc 71 is certainly another viable choice for these jobs.  Be aware that only the 0.045", 0.052" and 1/16" diameter product is certified H8 - low hydrogen.  The 0.035" is not H8 low hydrogen certified.Excel Arc 71 in 1/16" diameter is fine for out of position work.  http://www.hobartbrothers.com/pdf/da...xcel_Arc71.pdf
Reply:True...an earlier poster had suggested a smaller wire as fast/easy/good.  I just wanted to make certain that if he chose to use Excel Arc 71, he'd know that not all sizes were low-hydrogen certified.  Lo-Hy is something he mentioned as important.  It's  a good reminder to everyone that not all wires have the same certifications when you move from one diameter to another. Originally Posted by lars66Might be wrong but I dont think hes going to have enough iron thier to soak up the heat that 1/16" needs to be run at.
Reply:Hey guys I'm a newbie with dual shield but I wana know whats the best wire for a machine with limit of 30 volts 700 ipm
Reply:What is the machine? The duty cycle is more important than the output limits.
Reply:Go with Lincoln 71M Elite 1/16 co2 shieled we have welded over 100 tons of it in the World Trade Center with no problems.
Reply:Fabricator 252i
Reply:If this is the Thermal Arc Fabricator 252i, then the MIG duty cycle is 60% @ 24V/200A.  Or 40% at 26.5V/250A .  That's a respectable machine capable of running 0.45" flux-cored wires without bumping against the duty cycle.  You might be able to run 1/16" diameter, but depending on the amount of welding you're doing you might run up against the thermal cutoff for the machine.  With 0.045" FCAW-G you'll be able to run the wires at reasonable parameters without demanding too much from the machine.Hobart, Lincoln, ESAB, Kobelco all make good fluxcored wires.  Which one you choose will depend in part on what you're going to weld.Benson's Mobile Welding - Dayton, OH metro area - AWS Certified Welding Inspector
Reply:i would say 0.45" would be the best betVantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.