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I was surfing the web a came up on this..........http://www.cut-like-plasma.com/index.htmWhat are your opinions??????
Reply:Hmm  I don tknow  Id want to try it out firstIf my supplier carries it, and they can arrange for the rep to let me demo it for a week then Ill let you know Otherwise I dont think its worth itIF it Catches...Let it Burn
Reply:Originally Posted by TxRedneckHmm  I don tknow  Id want to try it out firstIf my supplier carries it, and they can arrange for the rep to let me demo it for a week then Ill let you know Otherwise I dont think its worth it
Reply:They have been around for a very long time.   Sold under a differrent name at one time if I remember correctly/As for the thought that the torch will cut like a plasma I think that is wishfull thinking.   A plasma unit can hit 50,000 degrees, a gas torch is around 6000 or something.   Call them up and ask if it cuts stainless.   If it does it would be interesting to learn how it was accomplished.   If it can't you might want to ask what the misleading advertising is about.I don't have one nor do I know anybody that does, but my understanding is that the torches where popylar one time with the automobile crowd and other sheet metal workers.   The problem now is that there are alternatives that are better such as plasma or even a sawsall blade.    Thus it appears that they have advertising aimed at the plasma crowd.By the way one year they where demonstrating at the NAMES convention.    That is the Model engineering show held every year.    Wasn't interested so walked on by.Before goiing this route I'd look at all alternatives available.    Just like any other purchase of expensive hardware.ThanksDave
Reply:I would take the particular route I indicated before because products come out all the time that are bogus and more of a marketing scheme than a viable tool.  If its really worth it, your welding dist will carry it, or they will find out how to get one if for no other reason for you to demo it.  Thats the way its done.  IF you can demo it an dlike it you will buy it and recommend to others and the dist will also be inclinded to carry it.IF it Catches...Let it Burn
Reply:I have no experience with this torch, so have no personal opinion.  I believe that I have seen positive comments from readers of the EAA (Experimental Aircraft Association) magazines and the Home Shop Machinist magazine.  (On the other hand, I may just be remembering the ads in those magazines.)I, like others here, tend to be very suspicious of claims that someone has developed a miraculous modification of standard technology (OA welding/cutting) that all the dummies in R&D departments of Victor, Smith, et. al. and university research labs somehow overlooked.  And the price looks pretty steep for an OA torch with a different shaped handle.  On the other hand, maybe the guy is onto something.How about one of the very experienced gas welding members of this forum contacting the manufacturer with an offer to test out a loaner and write up his observations and opinions for the forum?  Seems like a win-win situation for the manufacturer and for us, if his product is really that good.awrightLast edited by awright; 04-10-2006 at 03:08 AM.
Reply:I have a Henrob.  I've never used it for cutting, only for welding.  It's for O/A welding what mig is to arc.It's a great tool.  But there is a learning curve. Unlike popular products. A skilled Henrob torch user can do some amazing things (I'm not one of them).  But there is a learning curve and most people who want to buy a tool that can do anything expect the tool to do it all.life is good
Reply:Yeah I've got one of them too. They're called DHC's now (Dillon, Henrob, Cobra, the various names they've been sold under), they've actually been around for about 25 years (invented by an Australian would you believe!)I reckon you've got to be a fan of O/A to buy one of these, but they're pretty good, especially for finer stuff.Unfortunately all the distributors who sell these torches market them as "the wonder torch that can do anything, anywhere, anytime whilst using less gas than a regular torch" rather than as a good alternative to other torches on the market. At the end of the day they still use Oxygen and Acetylene so are limited to what these can do. They do seem to have a hotter, more focused flame than my other "regular torch" though, and seem to work better on Aluminium. I haven't tried the cutting attachment that came with the kit, but there is no way it will cut anything but ferrous metal. The only difference in cutting procedure is that the DHC uses a single flame for preheat, with the oxygen tip following in a straight line. It has an "undercut" tip for thin metal, which might be useful. All in all, I think they're a good torch spoilt by "shopping channel" marketing. You half expect to "get a free set of steak knives if you call and order in the next ten minutes!" when you look at the websites selling these torches, but if you do a bit of research on people who have used them, most are impressed. If I come across any articles, I will post the links.Hey, they're even made in the USA!J.
Reply:They are pretty bad *** for auto body sheet metal work, or thin metal work. I have seen them weld chromoly pretty nicely and alluminum as well, but the hands that hold the torch is 90% the torch is the rest.Millermatic 251Century 180 migSpectrum 625 Syncrowave 250DX
Reply:Thanks for all your input. Since I was in the market for a "cutting" tool other than a sawsall. I didn't think it was a bad tool for cutting,but that's my opinion. Trying to locate something cheaper than a plasma cutter. As suggested....."How about one of the very experienced gas welding members of this forum contacting the manufacturer with an offer to test out a loaner and write up his observations and opinions for the forum"? Seems like a win-win situation for the manufacturer and for us, if his product is really that good. Thanks again.......Any others??
Reply:Originally Posted by JDHYeah I've got one of them too. They're called DHC's now (Dillon, Henrob, Cobra, the various names they've been sold under), they've actually been around for about 25 years (invented by an Australian would you believe!)I reckon you've got to be a fan of O/A to buy one of these, but they're pretty good, especially for finer stuff.Unfortunately all the distributors who sell these torches market them as "the wonder torch that can do anything, anywhere, anytime whilst using less gas than a regular torch" rather than as a good alternative to other torches on the market. At the end of the day they still use Oxygen and Acetylene so are limited to what these can do. They do seem to have a hotter, more focused flame than my other "regular torch" though, and seem to work better on Aluminium. I haven't tried the cutting attachment that came with the kit, but there is no way it will cut anything but ferrous metal. The only difference in cutting procedure is that the DHC uses a single flame for preheat, with the oxygen tip following in a straight line. It has an "undercut" tip for thin metal, which might be useful. All in all, I think they're a good torch spoilt by "shopping channel" marketing. You half expect to "get a free set of steak knives if you call and order in the next ten minutes!" when you look at the websites selling these torches, but if you do a bit of research on people who have used them, most are impressed. If I come across any articles, I will post the links.Hey, they're even made in the USA!J.
Reply:The torch does what they say it will.  There are video demos of what it does available on the site.  The end of this one where he cuts the thin strip and the sawtooth with points is very impressive.  http://www.cut-like-plasma.com/video...-steel_LAN.wmvBut, this guy is like a god among torch handlers.  No normal person has a steady enough hand to do what he does.The complains I have heard about the torch are its weight and awkward shape.  Otherwise, most people are satisfied with it.  Smith medium duty will leave a slagless cut with no hard oxide layer if you set it up right on 1/4 plate.  There will be no gray slag, only shiny rainbow colored metal.  But, there is no way it could cut points like that or the thin strips.  It won't leave a finish cut on anything under 3/16ths of an inch thick, but well leave an acceptable cut on metal as thin as 16 guage.
Reply:No matter how wonderful the Henrob is, it doesn't make sense to compare it to a plasma cutter unless you intend to cut only ferrous metals.  An OA cutter can only cut metals that can be readily burned with O2.  A plasma cutter can cut virtually any conductive metal because the heat source is the electric arc/plasma and it does not rely on oxidation of the workpiece metal.  It simply heats the workpiece metal to a very high temperature with the plasma and blows the molten metal away, so it can work on most metals whether they readily oxidize or not.  Conversely, an OA cutting torch just heats the workpiece up to a temperature sufficient to initiate combustion when the O2 jet is focussed on the preheated metal.  Burning (oxidation) of the metal of the workpiece is the source of the heat to sustain the cutting action.I've used both (albeit not very expertly) and there is simply no comparison in the action of each.  The plasma is miraculous.  I haven't used the OA cutter since I got the plasma.awright