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I need Ideas & photos for repurposing an 80 gallon gas hot water heater please. --Yesterday as Im taking out the garbage
. I see my neighbors have a hot water heater out at the curb. Their house is only 11 years old so it had to be newer
.. I wanted it
. couldnt rationalize taking it because I didnt know what I wanted it for but
. still wanted it. So I go inside and make a few calls to friends to see if anyone has ever repurposed a gas hot water heater before
. nope
nobody has. I send an e-mail to the man teaching me how to weld thinking he might be online checking e-mail and hes not
.. and I can see the garbage truck coming
. uh oh
. decisions decisions
to snitch it or
. not. Grabbed my wheel barrow and couldnt get it in
. too heavy. Ran back and grabbed a dolly from the basement, got it on with the help of my wonderful garbage man, rolled it across the street over to my house and up the driveway knowing full well my better half wouldnt be happy when he came home and saw it. He wasnt happy
. 1st word out of his mouth was, Seriously. Next words were, Take it back to where ever you found it
. its not a lost puppy. -- --So here I sit with my latest treasure
. an 80 gallon gas hot water heater that Ive read can be set up next to existing hot water tanks to be used as storage (seems a lot of people hide stuff in them), can be converted into a pig trough (dont have any pigs), and can be plumbed inline with water lines and used for back up water storage, Put shut offs on top and bottom and a fawcet for gravity drain when there is no power. Plumbed inline will keep fresh water in it. We have Schutz tanks for storing fresh water for the gardens so thats a no go. --Ive found a few ideas online but
. so far nothing I can use. Heres a thread from here on a BBQ and yard cooker from a water heater, http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ter-heater-BBQ. Problem is we have a grill. --Water tank to outdoor wood heater conversion, http://www.instructables.com/id/Phas...Outdoor-Wood-/. Cool idea but
. why heat the outside?--Water tank to wood burning stove conversion, http://www.instructables.com/id/Conv...tove/?ALLSTEPS. Another cool idea but
. we already have a wood burning stove we dont use. --And look
. I could even make my own biodiesel fuel with it, http://www.officialbiodiesel.com/fre.../appleseed.htm. Really cool idea.... too bad we dont have any diesel vehicles. --Does anyone have any ideas or photos of a repurposed treasure like this? About all I'm coming up with to avoid having to send my puppy to a scrap yard is cutting it down, welding a base for it, then using it as a chicken de-feathering tank similar to this, http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspo...-my-never.html.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:When your husband got home you should have said; "Yep, our water heater quit working this morning, so I changed it out before you got home. I didn't want you to miss any football games this weekend".Lincoln Precision TIG 185.Flex-Loc 150 torch.Super-Flex hose.Lincoln MIG 180.Victor Oxy/Act torch set.DeWalt Bandsaw with SWAG stand
Reply:Maybe the neighbors changed out to go to a larger size. Ask them if it works. If so, sell it on Craigslist."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:I probably leaks or is full of scale . some are porcelain coated they chip all to hell,can't cut the or weld them. my advise cut in half (if you can find a half that doesn't leak )put gold fish in it ,or put back for the trash man.Not much use for them now a washing has motor and gears and stuff , a refridgerator can be used for dry storage . besides the people across the street , are thinking that crazy woman is stealing are junk, don't let the kids or dogs near her! gxbxcLast edited by gxbxc; 09-05-2014 at 12:49 PM.
Reply:You said you have a "grill". Do you have a "smoker"? That tank is a prime candidate to become a smoker. I prefer old propane tanks but gas water heater are thick enough too.One of these days I'm going to get started on my smallish smoker build from a 150 gallon propane tank I traded for an old air compressor.GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:Originally Posted by EquilibriumI need Ideas & photos for repurposing an 80 gallon gas hot water heater please.
Reply:I would ask neighbor if it works. They may have replaced for a larger size. It appears you did not get the diverter flue that goes on top. If it did function properly, it could still be useful as a water heater.
Reply:Looks pretty new... They probably just upgraded to an on-demand heater (they are nice). I would cast my vote towards asking if it works and sell it...Precision TIG 225MillerMatic 250Powermax 35XPPowermax 65TM 4X4 w/ water tableLagun FTV1Monarch 10EEJD2 M3 with hydro conversion
Reply:WenValley> Ya know something.... he woulda believed me and he would have walked downstairs and seen both of our original 80 gallon hot water heaters and known something "fishy" was up. He really has no room to comment though.... he left a chromed bumper on my dining room table for a year. --Notsooldordum> I called... it was a leaker. I didn't want it to sell though.... I wanted to play with it. --gxbxc> See above ^ --"the people across the street , are thinking that crazy woman is stealing are junk, don't let the kids or dogs near her!" We're friends with them.... we "steal" from each others gardens. When I called him to find out what was wrong with it, he said they saw me out there this morning in my bathrobe trying to push it into the wheel barrow and were laughing. I guess he got dressed and was coming out to help me but... I'd already "snitched" it. --Gravel> B I N G O!!! A smoker is a great idea. We have a little one that doesn't really perform all that well. I mean it works well enough for smoking peppers so I can grind them but beyond that.... it's just too small. This is what we have, http://www.amazon.com/Smokehouse-Pro...e-gardeners-20. Lookie what I found, ----How cool is that!!! I'm keeping my "snitched" water heater. --G-Son> It is metal.... heavy metal!!! Have you made one before? You don't by any chance have any photos do you? If you do, please share. --"There's a gas burner in it? Doesn't every metal worker need a good high temperature oven, or forge...?" I dunno.... haven't gotten that far. So far I'm only learning how to MIG but.... I'll set the guts aside for sure now that you said something. --BD1 &1967marti> no no no.... It's mine mine mine. MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Neighbor made 2 ATV snowplow blades out of one.REAL TRUCKS DON'T HAVE SPARK PLUGS
Reply:2 years ago my old 50 gallon did fetch $50.00ish dollars at the local scrapper in Zion on Sheridan Road.Everlast PowerPro 256, Everlast W300 Cooler, Everlast Cart 250Millermatic 211, Spoolgun 100, Miller HD CartJackson W60 Truesight Digital Auto Darkening, Victor 315 Torch sitting on a Harper 830-86 cart
Reply:Since it leaks, that rules out blocking off the relief valve and launching it Mythbusters style....They make great rifle and pistol targets. Fill with water... Perforate with ammo. Then sell for scrap to buy more ammo for the next time..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Fence post "cooker", if you live in a rural area. Use it for treating/re-treating fence posts before setting them in the ground. Mostly RR ties. 100 gal tank, top cut off. Tank sits on a couple of steel beams with enough space underneath for a propane burner. 30-40 gallons of used motor oil, plus occasionally add a gallon or two of Termin-8. Fits 3-4 RR ties, heated (carefully...) for a couple of hours until really hot then allowed to cool. Usually just leave them soaking in the barrel until I need them. They last a lot longer than regular ties, even good ones.Hobbyist - At what point is a "hobby" out-of-control?
Reply:Old Skool> "Neighbor made 2 ATV snowplow blades out of one." I'd sure like to see photos of that. I've got my own 4 wheeler.... more of a utility ATV so I'm sort of curious. --Grandslam99> We must live awfully close because I know exactly where that is. It can't be more than 10 miles away from me. I drove over there thinking that if they bought scrap they'd sell it but.... they don't. I've grown rather attached to my hot water heater after watching that video on building a smoker out of it. I'm thinking I'll just keep it.... mine mine mine. --DSW> You'd fit in really well over here.... the bigger the bang, boom, and bonfire... the better. I have to hide things or they'll end up shot up or tossed in the fire. Thanks for reminding me I live with a bunch of pyros. I think I'll go move my "treasure" behind the little barn.... out of view.... where it will be some semblance of safe. --FORTEALLOY> The tank I hauled home is only 80 gallons. Termin-8 is a livestock feed additive, right? I've not heard of it being used to treat lumber.... interesting.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:You guys have no imagination.... I helped someone when he cut the top off and used it to heat mash made for wind fall apples which were really cheap. I formed up a double jacketed stainless plate that sat on top with a cold water hose connection. You could barely taste the hint of apples. You could light the stuff when he brought it to work for the guys to sample.
Reply:Originally Posted by EquilibriumFORTEALLOY> The tank I hauled home is only 80 gallons. Termin-8 is a livestock feed additive, right? I've not heard of it being used to treat lumber.... interesting.
Reply:Originally Posted by EquilibriumWenValley> Ya know something.... he woulda believed me and he would have walked downstairs and seen both of our original 80 gallon hot water heaters and known something "fishy" was up. He really has no room to comment though.... he left a chromed bumper on my dining room table for a year. --Notsooldordum> I called... it was a leaker. I didn't want it to sell though.... I wanted to play with it. --gxbxc> See above ^ --"the people across the street , are thinking that crazy woman is stealing are junk, don't let the kids or dogs near her!" We're friends with them.... we "steal" from each others gardens. When I called him to find out what was wrong with it, he said they saw me out there this morning in my bathrobe trying to push it into the wheel barrow and were laughing. I guess he got dressed and was coming out to help me but... I'd already "snitched" it. --Gravel> B I N G O!!! A smoker is a great idea. We have a little one that doesn't really perform all that well. I mean it works well enough for smoking peppers so I can grind them but beyond that.... it's just too small. This is what we have, http://www.amazon.com/Smokehouse-Pro...e-gardeners-20. Lookie what I found, ----How cool is that!!! I'm keeping my "snitched" water heater. --G-Son> It is metal.... heavy metal!!! Have you made one before? You don't by any chance have any photos do you? If you do, please share. --"There's a gas burner in it? Doesn't every metal worker need a good high temperature oven, or forge...?" I dunno.... haven't gotten that far. So far I'm only learning how to MIG but.... I'll set the guts aside for sure now that you said something. --BD1 &1967marti> no no no.... It's mine mine mine.
Reply:Originally Posted by OldendumMaybe the neighbors changed out to go to a larger size. Ask them if it works. If so, sell it on Craigslist.
Reply:My better half has an answer to FORTEALLOYs signature line, Hobbyist - At what point is a "hobby" out-of-control? He says, When a hobbyist hauls home junk like a water heater.--lotechman> that sounds an awful lot like a still. --FORTEALLOY> Heres the Termin-8 I was thinking of, http://www.meatandpoultryonline.com/...servative-0001. The active ingredient found in the Termin-8 product that you used was an organochlorine compound. I would imagine that would work as a wood pickler and a people pickler too. Are there any stands of Black Locust (Robinia pseudoacacia) growing anywhere around you? This might be of interest to you, http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-.../black-locust/. This too, http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_bas...cust_uses.html. There is no better product for landscape timbers in my opinion. In the ground
Black Locust timbers can last 40
. even 50 years or longer
. untreated. Its what our great grandparents used for posts before Big Chem came along. --gxbxc> Ok I stand corrected ,I bow my head too you, an old hot water heater does have some value Not so fast.... better lift your head up
.. I pulled some info off the label on the water heater last night. Its a Rheemglas Fury model 4N80. Remember back a few posts ago when you made these comments, some are porcelain coated they chip all to hell,can't cut the or weld them. my advise
put back for the trash man. Turns out youre right. The model I hauled home has an exclusive patented Rheemglas tank lining that Rheem advertised would resist corrosion which would prolong the tank life
. its got a porcelain enamel interior. Heres some spot-on comments I found online regarding Rheems exclusive patented tank linings, In the past 15 years they have been lining the tanks with a ceramic coating so the tank would last longer. They used lighter gauge steel and the tanks usually rust and leak at the threaded heater element areas or the water inlet and outlet areas. And that is EXACTLY what happened to my neighbors water heater
. It rusted and started leaking at the threaded heater element area AND started rusting by both the water inlet and outlet areas. Great product Rheem's got- not. It lasted all of 11 years
so much for Rheems Exclusive Rheemglas Porcelain Enamel Tank Lining engineered for durability and long tank life. I cant even use it for a smoker because of the enamel
. all its good for is a pig feed trough. --But the guy in the video need a better latch and handle system, I saw that. I found a similar build that addressed those issues
. all one would need is an older hot water heater without a new & improved porcelain enameled lining. Check out the photos of this vertical smoker build, https://www.flickr.com/photos/dodson...7629200965356/.--G-son> earlier on you posted this, Doesn't every metal worker need a good high temperature oven, or forge...? I did some poking around online and found this idea for others who have a solid metal hot water heater tank
. its a medium duty furnace for metal casting, http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/harriette01.html --'Stang> So much can be done with heavy gauge all-metal hot water heaters
. too bad thats NOT what I hauled up the driveway to play with. Hi ho, Hi ho
. its back to the curb it goes. --The covers to A/C units are also great for covering up plywood thats been used for shelving or to support a tool like a bench grinder. Hmmm
. maybe Ill strip the water heater of its outer metal cover and use it to cover a plywood shelf .... maybe not... maybe it's just better to go out and move it back to the curb under the cloak of darkness. MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Rain water reserve
Reply:One of the more creative things I've seen made from one was a GUN SAFE. Camouflaged perfectly in a garage.
Reply:Eq, you are dangerously creative. I like that. Regards,RobGreat Basin WeldingInstagramBlue weldersRed weldersMy luscious Table DIY TIG Torch cooler
Reply:tccris> It's always a good idea having at least 50 gallons of fresh water on hand in case of a power outage.... too bad I had the misfortune of snitching a tank that was rusted in 3 spots and leaking. --Drf255> I think you're onto something.... I've always heard the best place to hide anything is in plain view. -- Robert Hall> Flattery will get you everywhere. Truth is.... I'm not all that creative. I took a class at the senior center on how to search the internet. I yahoo, bing, and google like a pro.... suchadeal for only $10.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Originally Posted by Equilibriumtccris> It's always a good idea having at least 50 gallons of fresh water on hand in case of a power outage.... too bad I had the misfortune of snitching a tank that was rusted in 3 spots and leaking. .... suchadeal for only $10.
Reply:Our generator is big enough to be put in its own shed. Hard wired with its own breaker panel in our house. It can run everything at once in our house. Originally Posted by BistineauYou got a mig welder now, just weld the leaks shut. More good practice time.I don't have much to worry about concerning a power outage. I have TWO standby generators and an engine drive welder with enough output to power the whole house except the central A/C unit.Originally Posted by Canadian WeldingOur generator is big enough to be put in its own shed. Hard wired with its own breaker panel in our house. It can run everything at once in our house.
Reply:Thats sweet! You also said you can power stuff with your welder also. Thats enough its self to power plenty right? Haha, just don't tell your friends, they will want to come visit when the powers out. Originally Posted by BistineauMy two share a generator house and are wired into the breaker panel on the pole next to it, that then feeds the panel in the house. But they are set up so I can only draw power off one of them at a time. One gas, one diesel, so it won't matter which kind of fuel I can get for them, I can make electricity.
Reply:I could but.... my husband was so "touched" that I was willing to part with my beloved "leaker" that he told me he'd try picking up a residential steel well tank for me. He said I wouldn't have to worry about being exposed to asbestos dust getting at the tank since... they're not insulated. --We don't have as much to worry about any more either. I keep very little in the freezer.... most everything goes into little glass jars these days and... we bought another big momma generator that's got enough oomph to run our well pump. We've got enough gas on hand that we rotate out to be able to run it every few days for a few months and.... we've got a wood burning stove to keep the house above freezing so our pipes won't burst and at least 10 cords of wood stacked up outside. Going without power for 8 days was a real wake up call. --Canadian Welding> I've heard of those engine drive welders. Think I could get hubby to flip for one of them.... I mean.... er uh... a whole house generator? Just kidding. The little MIG machine is all we've got space to store currently. Maybe the next house we move to will have a pole barn.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Do u have an outdoor fireplace
Reply:Originally Posted by Canadian WeldingThats sweet! You also said you can power stuff with your welder also. Thats enough its self to power plenty right? Haha, just don't tell your friends, they will want to come visit when the powers out.
Reply:Bigwood logger> Yes, we have an outdoor fireplace and two indoor fireplaces. The outdoor pit is too far away from our house and the indoor fireplaces aren't efficient. They suck too much heat out.... no point upgrading them to woodburning units when it's doubtful we'll be in this house 10 years from now. The wood burning stove is much more efficient. We also have a propane BBQ and 5 extra tanks of propane so we'll be able to cook food the next time we're stuck without electricity. Why do you ask? Got an idea up your sleeve?MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Originally Posted by Equilibrium--Canadian Welding> I've heard of those engine drive welders. Think I could get hubby to flip for one of them.... I mean.... er uh... a whole house generator? Just kidding. The little MIG machine is all we've got space to store currently. Maybe the next house we move to will have a pole barn.
Reply:Any water heater you leave in the alley, in my neighborhood, will be "found" and hauled away in a pickup with a Baja California License plate in a matter of hours.I am told they weld up the leaks and sell them, as used, in Tijuana. Or they go to the scrap yards, we have several in San Diego.I offer three choices: Good, Fast, & Cheap. You may pick two.Hobart AC/DC StikMate LXHarbor Freight AD HoodHarbor Freight Industrial Chop SawDeVilbis 20 Gallon, 5 HP Compressor
Reply:fyi, dunno, about the newer hot water heaters but some of the older ones used solid magnesium rods to heat the water.
Reply:Bisteneau> Big "momma" is in our screened in porch. It takes two men to move it. I've seen those welders like what you've got and they're on what looks like a trailer complete with a hitch to tow it. We'd never get one of those under roof anywhere here.... we're at capacity and that's a type of welding I don't know how to do anyway. Maybe the next house? I guess it depends on how much they cost used since I'm a hobbyist. --nadogail> everything not tucked away behind a locked door or bolted down gets legs around us so don't feel bad. --somedude> I take it magnesium rods would be desirable? Why?MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:from a recycling perspective, magnesium scrap is over $2.50/lb. (edit: unless I'm looking at outdated prices)
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Reply:somedude> "from a recycling perspective, magnesium scrap is over $2.50/lb." Ah thank you. Now I understand. Copper is pretty high too. I gave it away to somebody who goes to scrap yards every once in a while and told him not to spend the $$$ he made off of it all at one fast food restaurant. They're only paying .08¢ for steel around here. At those prices.... he won't even be able to pay for gas half way to the scrap yard. If there are any magnesium rods in it.... maybe he can buy a whole happy meal at McDonald's with what he'll make off of it. Ridiculous.... they're still charging us around .50¢ a pound yet scrap prices dropped again. --Bigwood logger> Big thank you to you too. That's absolutely beautiful. Love the door on the front. Hmmm.... I'm really liking the compact shape of your outdoor fireplace.... beats the heck out of the fire pit we have. It would be great on our patio..... maybe I can talk my husband into letting me have 2 residential steel well tanks. MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin |
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