Running WP-20 Torch with no Cooling

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I'm waiting on my new #20 Flex Torch to come in, but when it does I will not be finish my cooler.  I build 95% of my tools, incluing my Wire Feeder and will be building my Cooler,  but waiting for the slow boat for the pumps and a few other thing. I have few tight spots on my frame to gusset and my heavy #26 is just too much to squeeze in.Any probs to running a few welds with no coolant running to the torch?If so I have 2 other #17's that are a little less bulky, but the flex head will be my saving grace.
Reply:Sure you can use it. It will be like using a air cooled WP-9. Just keep the amps down below 125www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:If you try it, weld quick because you won't be welding long without running coolant. MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Ya, they are just some thing 18g gussets on my YJ Frame.
Reply:Hook your (garden) water hose up to the torch...Lincoln pro mig 180Lincoln Square Wave Tig 300/wp 20/home built water cooler Victor, Purox, Harris, O/A welding/cutting setupsVintage Craftsman drill pressVintage Craftsman/Atlas 12"x 36'' lathe7''x 12'' w/c band saw Everlast 140 st
Reply:Currently below zero, so no go there as they are all back flushed.  Maybe put a T in the heater core my truck and idle it with a cold motor?Airco Heliweld II AC/DC HomeMade Wire FeederLincoln 255PLincoln HD130Everlast PP804x8 CNC TableWelding helps me build my hobbies and takes up time on the side.
Reply:You will fry the power hose if you go too long. Not worth it IMOMiller Dynasty 700Miller 350P with Aluma-pro push-pullMiller 280 Dynasty with expansion card Dynasty 200 DXMigMax 215 Enuff power and hand tools to create one of anything..... but mass produce nothing!!!
Reply:That case I'll just asking my LWS to bring in a #9 at the same time.Airco Heliweld II AC/DC HomeMade Wire FeederLincoln 255PLincoln HD130Everlast PP804x8 CNC TableWelding helps me build my hobbies and takes up time on the side.
Reply:The argon runs through the power hose the same as it does on a WP9 the only difference is you can feed water through the torch "head" to cool it at high amps so you will be able to weld thicker metal for a longer time.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:JKMotorsports  -  Order another torch now, and weld away  -  Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416The argon runs through the power hose the same as it does on a WP9 the only difference is you can feed water through the torch "head" to cool it at high amps so you will be able to weld thicker metal for a longer time.
Reply:The torch might last a couple minutes. I burned one out at work because I set an angle iron frame down on the water out hose and it didn't take long to have steam pouring out of the melted water hose right next to the connection in the head.
Reply:JKMotorsports,I have to say I was wrong I wasn't thinking stright to much ice tea.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
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Reply:Originally Posted by DemonSpeederHook your (garden) water hose up to the torch...
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416Sure you can use it. It will be like using a air cooled WP-9. Just keep the amps down below 125
Reply:Originally Posted by JKMotorsportsYa, they are just some thing 18g gussets on my YJ Frame.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonHow did that work out for ya?
Reply:Originally Posted by JKMotorsportsWhatca mean by that?  Just gusseting crossmember corners with dimpled gussets.  They are all in tension also.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonYou know if you run DCEP, the polar opposite makes  your cable cooler and charges the capacitors at the same time, Then when You run DCEN the reverse happens because you reversed polarity and the capacitors discharge. That is why the preferred choice is AC, or in layman's terms "always correct".  Kind of think solar, you know global warming, and global cooling when we have volcanic activity.
Reply:Ahhh.I haven't welded them yet as I've been sidetracked by a few other shop projects and the birth of my 3rd child.  Looks like the #9 torch will be in by the time I get to it.Airco Heliweld II AC/DC HomeMade Wire FeederLincoln 255PLincoln HD130Everlast PP804x8 CNC TableWelding helps me build my hobbies and takes up time on the side.
Reply:Originally Posted by mechanic416The argon runs through the power hose the same as it does on a WP9 the only difference is you can feed water through the torch "head" to cool it at high amps so you will be able to weld thicker metal for a longer time.
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverYou have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop giving people advise.A WP20 has less copper int he power lead than a wp9, they are not the same. Running a wp20 dry is a very bad idea.Water returns from the torch through the power lead. The copper in the power lead is directly cooled by the water which allows a small amount of copper to carry a large current without it melting like a fuse.