Carhartt bibs..?

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The real cold weather is around the corner (where I am, anyway) and I've been looking into buying carhartt bibs. I want the insulated ones for warmth, but the linings are all some kind of synthetic material and I've always been told to wear only cotton or wool while welding. I plan on wearing the bibs over my jeans and shirts, which are all cotton, but I'm still a little concerned about the lining catching fire easily. Should I just buy the unlined ones? What bibs do you guys wear in cold weather?
Reply:I use the black Carhart "Duck" material bibs and jacket.  I use the ones that the legs zip to the waist and also the front zips up the middle from waist up... Much easier to take on and off.  Especially when covered in half frozen mud.-------------------------Chemetron AC/DC 300 HFSnap-On MM300L Lincoln SP140 Lincoln AC/DC 225g Lincoln SA200 Lincoln SA200 Miller Bobcat 225GVictor torchesH&M and Mathey beveling machinesMcElroy Plastic pipe fusion
Reply:Originally Posted by handtpipelineI use the black Carhart "Duck" material bibs and jacket.  I use the ones that the legs zip to the waist and also the front zips up the middle from waist up... Much easier to take on and off.  Especially when covered in half frozen mud.
Reply:Originally Posted by runtDo you use insulated bibs or are they unlined?
Reply:The "duck" ones are 100% cotton outer shell.  It WILL burn, but at least it won't melt to you.-------------------------Chemetron AC/DC 300 HFSnap-On MM300L Lincoln SP140 Lincoln AC/DC 225g Lincoln SA200 Lincoln SA200 Miller Bobcat 225GVictor torchesH&M and Mathey beveling machinesMcElroy Plastic pipe fusion
Reply:For a handful of years, I worked in a few open air shops. The insulated "brown" bibs and coat were a nice combo for me. I liked it better than a full on zuit-suit because you could shed layers more easily.I never had any issues with them burning until toward the end of winter when they were torn and frayed and generally all used up anyway. Mind you that this is being semi-mindful where I throw my sparks and also being semi-mindful as to where I stand so that I don't inadvertently douse myself in a slag waterfall. (I know.. sometimes you have little choice and need to get the job done.)All in all, they worked out pretty well for me when I used to wear them doing the type of work that I was doing at the time (stairs,rails,light structural fab work), and this comes from somebody who is pretty familiar with catching his jeans on fire when welding..    Miles and user-experience may vary based on usage.-Niche
Reply:i worked for a waterproofing contractor and did a lot of hanging scaffold work in the winter. i used the carhart coverall one piece suit. it had the red lining and zippers on the legs. no problems with setting myself on fire. i would think the lined bib type has too much open area for something hot to get inside unless you wore a jacket on top.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:I have experienced a pretty serious fire, including 3rd degree burns and winter clothing. My bibs caught, under my FR coveralls, and melted my subsequent underlayers to my crotch. I was wearing long johns, sweatpants, bibs and coveralls. So many layers prevented me from being exposed to flame until I was really going. My long undies and sweat pants are what really ****ed me. Put me out for almost a month, I still dont have to shave my right nut.When its super cold, you have no choice but use synthetics. Just be careful and keep an extinguisher handy. Line your body with cotton, I use pajama pants now.Constant Current Weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by runtThe real cold weather is around the corner (where I am, anyway) and I've been looking into buying carhartt bibs. I want the insulated ones for warmth, but the linings are all some kind of synthetic material and I've always been told to wear only cotton or wool while welding. I plan on wearing the bibs over my jeans and shirts, which are all cotton, but I'm still a little concerned about the lining catching fire easily. Should I just buy the unlined ones? What bibs do you guys wear in cold weather?
Reply:Wools great until it's wet, then you carry the weight of two men!!
Reply:I quit wearing Carhartt bibs when they went to $6.00 a pair, what an outrageous price to pay for something that gets burned up anyway!Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Setting myself on fire is routine. wear cotton pants under, There are numerous companies vending FR rated clothing but none that fit me. I use Carhardt bibs or for extreme cold, arctic duck coveralls. Patch any holes that might fray. Be alert if something smells funny, or you feel heat deal with it.
Reply:Good luck finding the Artic bibs.   I went into my local mom and pop shop, who usually have EVERYTHING.  They said Carhartt is so far behind they haven't received a lot of their fall product yet (should have had it a few months ago).  Apparently the cooler/longer spring and earlier fall this year, with a winter that was colder and longer, that stretched further south last year,  has depleted the normal inventory stockpiles.   They haven't been able to keep the product on the shelves,  or build up their warehouses, and they are in process of moving some manufacturing back to the US, from Mexico.   The Carhartt product number your looking for is R03BLK. They do have an R33BLK but I was told those will make you look and feel like the Michelin Man, and are  the bibs they wear in the Antarctic, literally.  I also found out Iowa is the largest consumer of Carhartt products in the nation.Anyway enough about nothing,  they told me if you find a pair, you better buy them up, because they are in high demand, and couldn't tell me when I'd have a chance of seeing any (I'm on the tall side).   Good luck!Last edited by Teggy1; 12-08-2014 at 07:54 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by rhuntWools great until it's wet, then you carry the weight of two men!!
Reply:Walls is another brand. I don't think they're as good as Carhart but they're cheaper as well. I've not tried there bibs yet but I prefer Berne coats. I plan on trying the bibs next time i need them which is fairly soon since mine are getting in bad shape. None of the coat companies are good at keeping odd sizes available.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by rhuntWools great until it's wet, then you carry the weight of two men!!
Reply:Nearly got hurt really bad back in the early 70s.   Working in an open type metal building . Got very cold here in Alabama.  Backed to closed to a big wood burning heater trying to warm up.  Had on several layers of insulation.  Caught the back of the coveralls on fire and burned the back out from the top of the hips to the shoulder blades.   Thought I would never get the coveralls off .  Careless on my part but one cant be too careful around welding.   Although now retired I wear the bibs with a jacket that I can remove quickly.   Although when I was young I liked to be sealed up completely with the coveralls while welding due to the various positions and sparks always seem to fall downhill especially if you are under them.
Reply:I generally wear the non insulated ones with layers underneath unless its real cold(-10 or below ) then I prefer the coveralls. Here we have a field and forest brand, sold  by fleet farm and Blaine's. I have also used Berne  which is pretty good and walls which are garbage.
Reply:A handheld gas powered chopsaw will incinerate the lower leg portion in short order.  As mentioned, pay attention to the odd smells.  That point which you say hmm.....is that a grease rag burning or what? is too late.
Reply:Originally Posted by irish fixitWalls is another brand. I don't think they're as good as Carhart but they're cheaper as well. I've not tried there bibs yet but I prefer Berne coats. I plan on trying the bibs next time i need them which is fairly soon since mine are getting in bad shape. None of the coat companies are good at keeping odd sizes available.
Reply:K'kins isn't much for clothes any time of the year, but really hates a lot of clothes in the Winter.  But one of the guys at work gave her an old pair of coveralls about 4 sizes too big, and now she's a convert  Baggy, with a lot of room for layers underneath.  She even wears them to work nowdays  We go to an auction during the Winter, and we look like the Michelin Man, and Woman"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:There's a 104lb girl somewhere in there"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I use Walls Blizzard proff bibbs and like them ok.Fireman BillHH 210 MVPMM 211 Spoolmate 100Lotas LTP5000D PlasmaOxy/Accet (Victor)Wards AC/DC buzz box30 ton old hyd pressA few brand name toolsA bunch of cheap toolsA wife to worry me and4 dogs to supervise me
Reply:I've never had any problems with any brand of "duck" outerwear.  Burned plenty of small holes through it, but never actually lit myself up.     I do remember an early summer camping trip (to an island) once though, where it rained and got really cold at night.   The only pair of pants I brought were some carhartt duck dungarees, and I lit them on fire trying to dry them out.  Spent the rest of the trip in my bathing suit, freezing my nuts off!
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammThere's a 104lb girl somewhere in thereAt woods hadn't been getting in anything carhartt.Worker lady said carhartt is having quality issues with the suppliers. I think for the price, the walls is almost a better deal. Though mine got torn up way faster than my carhartt. Sent from my SM-T537R4 using Tapatalk
Reply:I use the uninsulated ones.  I think its easier to move around in them.
Reply:I also wear the uninsulated ones. The insulated bibs get very warm if your moving around much. (maybe good for sitting ice fishing lol)
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI quit wearing Carhartt bibs when they went to $6.00 a pair, what an outrageous price to pay for something that gets burned up anyway!
Reply:I like my $200 merino wool long johns. I had a black lined Carhartt parka hood catch on fire once while I was laying under the pipe welding 8010 and the idiot helper was daydreaming.
Reply:I use tan carhartts with the red insulation. I also have a pair of uninsulated blue jean bibs of a different, unknown brand. Both have their share of burn marks and holes. They are very durable to heat and slag. Originally Posted by CEPI quit wearing Carhartt bibs when they went to $6.00 a pair, what an outrageous price to pay for something that gets burned up anyway!
Reply:Originally Posted by Davidbrown My long undies and sweat pants are what really ****ed me. Put me out for almost a month, I still dont have to shave my right nut.When its super cold, you have no choice but use synthetics. Just be careful and keep an extinguisher handy. Line your body with cotton, I use pajama pants now.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI quit wearing Carhartt bibs when they went to $6.00 a pair, what an outrageous price to pay for something that gets burned up anyway!
Reply:Originally Posted by TimmyTIG$6 bucks? When was that, back in the 1890's?
Reply:When they had to forge weld everything."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:Originally Posted by storemanI guess its a new world.  Never met a guy worried about that type of shaving!
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Reply:I've never seen anyone mention it, but I was thinking, if I were to be out in the cold all the time welding (not really a problem for me, as the cold doesn't bother me much), I think I would get some nomex long Johns. You know, the type racers wear to avoid burning alive. Sent from my SM-T537R4 using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by 79jasperI've never seen anyone mention it, but I was thinking, if I were to be out in the cold all the time welding (not really a problem for me, as the cold doesn't bother me much), I think I would get some nomex long Johns. You know, the type racers wear to avoid burning alive. Sent from my SM-T537R4 using Tapatalk
Reply:Yep. Lol Last winter we had a lot of below zero days. All I did was work outside. My layers were jeans, shirt, sweat shirt, and some TSC brand cover alls. once in awhile maybe a coat over that, but not often. And I wear steel toe boots, still don't get why people complain about them in the cold. Had some -45 wind chill. I remember having ice in my beard. LolBut I understand the lows here aren't near what some of you get. Sent from my SM-T537R4 using Tapatalk
Reply:Just FYI, Duluth's will let you burn up a pair and get a new set for free. They are serious about the warranty.Constant Current Weldor.
Reply:I have a few pair of these pants and wear them all winter long. Carhart not sure of the name, but never never never could say a bad word about them. Heavy for sure when frozen but nothing i mean nothing gets through them. Warm as toast 100%.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys