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This is a really dumb*** question but since I have no access to any 6010 I'm wondering is 6011 the same thing? All I'm doing is practicing my technique since I've been out of school for awhile. Its noting structurally important.
Reply:Close enough. 6010 for DC, 6011 for AC.GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:I think the 6010's run a bit better in wetting action for me. 6010's are only DC electrodes, but the 6011's can run on either polarity. However when running both types on DC, and if given the choice, I prefer the 6010's in my buzzbox with home projects. I don't even think I have any 6011's on hand anymore.Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller 625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita Baileigh NRA Life Member
Reply:I really like the Lincoln 5P series of 6010 rod. I have about 45# of 6011 which is Hobart branded and there really is little to compare on the same machine, at the same settings, and the same substrate. The Lincoln 6010 is a better product, (IMO) with three of my welders tested.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:In my experience the 6010s run a lot smoother than the 6011s and as the previous guy already stated they do seem to wet in better. Furthermore some inverter based machines like my multimatic 200 are unable to run the 6010s. Personally I also am not a fan of the fumes/smoke that the 6011s put off.
Reply:6011 was developed to give a similar rod to 6010 that would work on AC current. Lincoln 5P+ 6010 is nicer to run than the older 5P. Unless it's for code work 6011 will be just fine and is used in the same applications as 6010.
Reply:Years ago on a refinery job, I was BSing with a pipe welder in his welding hut. I noticed he was tacking his pipe joints with 6011, but making the welds with 6010. I ask him why, he felt that 6011 had more ductility to the tacks, and would move more for aligning before breaking, more so that 6010. Playing around, and trying to keep track. With the same joint prep, land, gap, bevel. Same welding machine, amps, and arc force. I found Hobart's 335A 6011 to dig deeper on the root pass that any other brand of 6010 I've tried.Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by Welder Dave6011 was developed to give a similar rod to 6010 that would work on AC current. Lincoln 5P+ 6010 is nicer to run than the older 5P. Unless it's for code work 6011 will be just fine and is used in the same applications as 6010.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlobI like the 5P+ in the vertical run but the older 5P in all other positions once you get used to it. My experience with the 5P+ is limited however to just about five pounds practice. Maybe just me however but the 5P seems to freeze faster? My Hobart machines are only DC so don't run the 6011 unless it's on one of my AC capable machines and seldom use them.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12V71Just for the fun of it, try the 6011 on DC. you just may be surprised. Even more surprised if you get some Murex 6011C, the good white stuff, It will run real smooth at lower amperages than 6010. I use quite a bit of it repairing rusty, thin, sometimes galvanized irrigation equipment. The smooth arc at lower amps is the key to that kind of work.
Reply:i was futzing around on my bench using 1/8" 6010 and decided to try some 6011. i had to turn the machine up 10/15 amps to run a decent bead. i can't recall what brand the 11's were.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPYears ago on a refinery job, I was BSing with a pipe welder in his welding hut. I noticed he was tacking his pipe joints with 6011, but making the welds with 6010. I ask him why, he felt that 6011 had more ductility to the tacks, and would move more for aligning before breaking, more so that 6010. Playing around, and trying to keep track. With the same joint prep, land, gap, bevel. Same welding machine, amps, and arc force. I found Hobart's 335A 6011 to dig deeper on the root pass that any other brand of 6010 I've tried. |
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