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I make quite a few of these just for fun.   The last ones have been tig.   I used a piece of 1/8 x4" cut off 4 one inch pieces and one 4" piece.  Clean them up removing all the millscale where they are going to be welded and round the edges.Tig TacksWeld top and bottom corners.   Everything is straigt.Weld through the cornersLast edited by David R; 12-27-2011 at 08:35 PM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:i have always loved building boxes - i think its a great way to keep up practice...and its cheap!not only are you practicing how to build something square, but at the same time practicing heat transfer to stop the box from distorting. I used to help in my universities introductory welding class. we would teach pre-engineering majors and ag teachers basics and fundamentals of welding, and when students would have a hard time with brazing or oxy-fuel i would tell them to build a 4"x4" metal box out of 1/8th inchmany of them learned how to not only build something, but at the end they could see how they progressed. they could identify the beginning welds and then where they got better. that's where i would do water holding tests over 24 hour periods as well as dye-penetrate tests. I would have them grind out the bad welds and teach them how to not only remove bad welds blend new welds into existing onesplus, there is always a use for a good 5-sided box for storage on the shelves!Last edited by smokin_dodge; 12-27-2011 at 08:33 PM.
Reply:Done and cleaned up on a wire wheel.   The Inside.today, Arcmaster 185,   Red or black 1/16"  tungsten, about 50 amps. #4 cupNow you build one and show me.....I have the first aluminum one I made and have the pieces cut out for one tomorrow.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:I built a 3"x3" cube 3/4 full of water in high school.  Used oxy/acy & it held water.  I had a devil of a time sealing it, as the heat would create steam & blow out the pinhole I was trying to seal.  Figured it out by chucking the cube full of water in the freezer overnight, then a quick hot flame & quick seal.  It didn't look too good at that one spot, but all the other welds were stack -o- dimes.Doing these things are harder than they look for the beginner.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:Ill have to get pictures, I made a few. One for my car and the other is in my sisters room.. hehe Attached ImagesHTP Invertig 201Lincoln Idealarc SP250Miller 180 AC StickBy farmall:They should have held the seagull closer to the work, squeezing evenly for best deposition.
Reply:Thank you fordman.  I will post my first ever fugly aluminum one today and if I get time I will do the one that is cut out.I have another metal one my son did.  I  had him use stainless filler.  It looks MUCH better than mine.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by David RDone and cleaned up on a wire wheel.   The Inside.today, Arcmaster 185,   Red or black 1/16"  tungsten, about 50 amps. #4 cupNow you build one and show me.....I have the first aluminum one I made and have the pieces cut out for one tomorrow.David
Reply:I love building box projects. Well done.  A tip if I may, If you wanted to make a lid for your boxes, just make a complete box, with all sided welded and allow to cool, then make your 1" or how ever thick you want your lid to be, then simply cut the top of the box off and you have a perfect fitting lid. Then add hinges.Some Blue , Some Red & Some GreyProverbs 16:2-3.2 "All a person’s ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the Lord. 3 Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and he will establish your plans."
Reply:Send me the pieces cut and I'll weld one up What thickness is that? mild steel, correct? I will build one. Looks like fun. What's the best way to hold the corners straight and tack it in place?Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleSend me the pieces cut and I'll weld one up What thickness is that? mild steel, correct? I will build one. Looks like fun. What's the best way to hold the corners straight and tack it in place?
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleSend me the pieces cut and I'll weld one up What thickness is that? mild steel, correct? I will build one. Looks like fun. What's the best way to hold the corners straight and tack it in place?
Reply:I really need a better band saw for stuff like this.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Just cut up some plate and weld it.   Use a hack saw if you have to.  This stuff can be purchased at any tractor supply or maybe even NAPA.  Home Repo should have it  too.   They have lengths of extruded aluminum.Here is my attempt at an aluminum box about 5 years ago and one now.  Same machine.  The inside counts as much as the outside.   DavidLast edited by David R; 12-28-2011 at 07:32 PM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:One I did.  Look at the bead on the inside.  Lets see some more inside and outside.DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:My son did this one with 3/32 308L filler.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Your son is getting pretty handy with the torch."Liberalism is a mental disorder" Dr. Savage
Reply:did somebody say "boxes?!?Buy American, or don't whine when you end up on the bread line.
Reply:I think ya need one more box....lol. Kewl idea.We are on our way to being farmers! Our site is always under construction so check back often for updates.  http://www.philosophyfarmstyle.com/
Reply:a box for every day of the year?
Reply:Originally Posted by WeldingMachinedid somebody say "boxes?!?
Reply:WTF???Originally Posted by WeldingMachine did somebody say "boxes?!?
Reply:Built my first one today out of aluminum for outside corner practice... 1.5x1.5x8.Gotta remember to really pull back on heat by the time I come to the corner. It's not TOO ugly, but I definitely need to work on consistency. Airtight first try.
Reply:Did this one awhile back, I like to make a treasure chest one with 1/2" steel one day, lol I'm digging the boxes.
Reply:Originally Posted by mathilBuilt my first one today out of aluminum for outside corner practice... 1.5x1.5x8.Gotta remember to really pull back on heat by the time I come to the corner. It's not TOO ugly, but I definitely need to work on consistency. Airtight first try.
Reply:Who needs that many aluminum boxes, and for what?Originally Posted by WeldingMachineI do about 500 a month or so for a small shop here in town (I am drawing a blank as to who they ultimately go to)...   They are some kind of electronics enclosure .032 5052 alum.10" of weld per box, 364 boxes.  3640" of weld in one day, not a bad haul for a Saturday.
Reply:This is probably the only "box" I've built, 2 gallon water tank for my homemade tig cart/cooler.More pics/info: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=58517.063" 5052 H32 aluminum Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverIt's hard to tell in the picture, but are you starting with a + shape and bending the 4 sides up?
Reply:I built the box above her head.DavidLast edited by David R; 01-02-2012 at 03:36 PM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:I  o/a welded a box a few weeks ago. Now I need to tig one.
Reply:Originally Posted by tonyh54321I  o/a welded a box a few weeks ago. Now I need to tig one.
Reply:Here is the box I built today with OA. I am a little rusty, first time I had done it in a few years. I built it from 1/8" x 4" HR, 1" tall sides. Puddled the bottom, verticle up on the corners sides with 1/16" ER70 just to say I did. When I get more time, I will TIG one out of steel and aluminum. It was fun just to mess around for a change!! Attached Images
Reply:Rancher76,   NICE job.   OA Huh?    Not too many can do that.    I can't.Lets see more!DavidReal world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:rancher76,For gas that's pretty dam good!!
Reply:Originally Posted by David RDone and cleaned up on a wire wheel.   Attachment 77747Attachment 77748The Inside.Attachment 77749today, Arcmaster 185,   Red or black 1/16"  tungsten, about 50 amps. #4 cupNow you build one and show me.....I have the first aluminum one I made and have the pieces cut out for one tomorrow.David
Reply:Originally Posted by sanddan52rancher76,For gas that's pretty dam good!!
Reply:Here is my first box tig!  5 pix will follow these 5!What do you guy's think?   I like this drill David, Kinda zen, good for the soul. Attached ImagesAEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:The rest of the box!  I will try Aluminium tommrow. Attached ImagesLast edited by houseoffire; 01-06-2012 at 09:53 PM.AEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:Do you use a heat sink behind that thin stuff?
Reply:Originally Posted by [email protected] you use a heat sink behind that thin stuff?
Reply:Here is my first try at the aluminum box.  more pix to follow.3/16 matreial with 3/32 filler rod.  130 amps 3/32 tungsten #7 cup 20 CFMI know I need lots more hood time!I did not get consistent penetration!   My control speed was more varied than I would like.Anyone can add to the critique? Attached ImagesAEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:More pix, You can see where I blew out one of the corners at the end of the weld!  Sheesh! Attached ImagesAEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:Bump, Any comments on my welds?  AnyoneAEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:Learn to use the pedal more..You need very little heat at the end of a aluminum weld as you found out...Youse guys are gonna make me do this now arn't ya?...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:You are getting there,    Box looks square.  welds look good, 3/16 is pretty big for a little box.   Once I read the thickness, it explains why the welds look so big, they are.Thanks for the inside pics, it shows you have control of the heat.  I can see the box heated up as you did each side by the different bead profiles.  Let it cool for each side or back off on the heat as you go.  Make another one!Now I have to make a 1/4" steel one.Good job, make more  DavidLast edited by David R; 01-07-2012 at 05:55 PM.Real world weldin.  When I grow up I want to be a tig weldor.
Reply:Originally Posted by houseoffireHere is my first try at the aluminum box.  more pix to follow.3/16 matreial with 3/32 filler rod.  130 amps 3/32 tungsten #7 cup 20 CFMI know I need lots more hood time!I did not get consistent penetration!   My control speed was more varied than I would like.Anyone can add to the critique?
Reply:Ok guy's thanks for the input!  Yes I did the welds all at once shifting sides and it did seem to go smoother as I went.I have to use the scraps available to me.  I will try to get some different thickness of materials and build some more!     I want to be the best that I can & I know it takes a lot of time under the hood. I appreciate all the help!  Thanks againAEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterYouse guys are gonna make me do this now arn't ya?...zap!
Reply:Almost a box!..Its to hold collets for my mill (instead of the old cardboard box there rollin around in now)..Halfway done.Was havin a good ole time..Until I ran out of argon..Cant finish it until monday    Edit the top is on an angle its not out of square..Will have a plate on the back as well Last edited by ak4130; 01-07-2012 at 11:01 PM.
Reply:I like it! I will have to build one for my collets!AEAD 200LE, Lincoln precision tig 185, Millermatic 251, Spectrum 625 extreme, Victor torch , Smithy 1220LTD. and  Do all C-4 band saw ,  Always adding.