Surgeons, the human weldor.

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move this to off-topic if this is inappropriate for this section.I was discussing somewhere else on the internet regarding weldors who tig instead of mig to bill for more hours, and how welding will kill your eyes and lungs.  Eventually, I come upon this analogy: Surgeons as weldors.  The more I thought about it, the more similarity there are.Surgery is detaching and attaching parts.  There are different methods and tools to detach and attaching parts.  They have their equivalence of mig and tig welding... glue and suture.mig welding is fast, and so is using glue.  Weldors use different fillers to to mig, well, surgeons use different glues as well.  There are Glutaraldehyde glue, collagen-based, cyanoacrylate based and fibrin sealants.  In the mig welding world, this is similar to playing with different gas mixture and different filler materials alu/ss/steel.tig welding is precise and so is sutures.  Weldors have tons and tons of different filler ranging from the everyday ER70s-x to the exotic ERTi-x for titanium.  Surgeons also have many different "threads" they can use: stainless steel thread, silk, cotton, nylon, polyglycolide...etc.  They are all different and also come in different sizes just like tig rods.  There's also the needles in order to do the sutures with, just like there are different types of tungsten.  Different suture patterns is just different bead pattern.  Surgeons also have "root pass" sutures and filler sutures.  They also have our equivalent of "walk the cup" (blanket stitch, or Ford interlocking suture).want laser suture?  we have laser weldingedit: oh yeah, regarding the health aspect of welding... your surgeon wouldn't operate without gloves and face protection, why would weldors weld without them?  The similarities are uncanny, I can go on, and on.  So, next time i'm in the shop, prepping... I mean, scrubbing in for a weld, I'll be keeping this in mind.  Alternately, next time you go in for surgery, remember, you can relate to the surgeon better than you think.step off soap box.Last edited by oxy moron; 07-05-2013 at 02:37 PM.
Reply:Hello oxy moron, you can add this little tidbit of similarity/dissimilarity: "Welders have to repair/fix their mistakes...... Doctors bury theirs!". Thought you might get a chuckle out of that. Best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:God dammit, i left a great big C-clamp inside the dash I was building, now the customer complains that there's a rattle every time he makes a left turn.  Instead of cutting a big hole to get the big C clamp out, I'll just cut a small hole to stick my mig torch in, and weld that clamp in place so it doesn't rattle
Reply:Where would stick welding fit into that analogy? or O/A welding?  I suppose the O/A would be the laser or  cauterize. I wonder why I am wondering bout this....
Reply:A heart surgeon came in to a Harley shop to pick up his bike and the mechanic told him you know we basically do the same thing but you get paid lots more. We both work on the hearts of our respective things. The surgeon looked at the mechanic and said if your so good at working on the heart of a Harley try doing it with the engine running like I do.
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungWhere would stick welding fit into that analogy? or O/A welding?  I suppose the O/A would be the laser or  cauterize. I wonder why I am wondering bout this....
Reply:I wish people would stop typing "weldor". It just looks weird. Every time I see it I say well doorLast edited by TimmyTIG; 07-06-2013 at 05:55 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by Scott YoungWhere would stick welding fit into that analogy? or O/A welding?
Reply:I don’t quite see the analogy between surgery/surgeons and welding/welders.  While I appreciate the attempt to compare similarities, I think the analogy falls short in the detail.  I view surgeons as the prep persons, who remove, repair, model, and position parts and pieces of protoplasm, so the actual “welding” can take place at the microscopic level, completlely on its own.  Use of glue, sutures, clamps, wires, screws, rods, etc., are merely used to position tissure, so that “welding” can take place.  Molecular bonding, which occurs durng the metal welding process, requires the “set up” of parts and pieces, prior to welding by a human or robot.  Cellular bonding, which occurs during tissue healing, requires the “set up” of parts and pieces, prior to welding by the animal, itself.I don’t mean to disparage the work of surgeons; just trying to point out that they are “set up” persons, not welders.
Reply:Originally Posted by Tensaiteki There have been many long, drawn out, and "spirited" threads on just about every English-language welding forum on the 'net regarding the er/or spelling...
Reply:In 1987 I was watching a surgeon doing an emergency C section. He pulled out a machine that looked like a TIG. It would cut and coterize at the same time. However he couldn't get it to work. I suggested he use the pedal. He said "oh yeah!" And it worked fine. When he was done, he asked me how I knew about the pedal. I said "I can't deliver a baby, but I can weld your boat with that machine"