Good news from ct highschool!

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I Have some good news about my high school that I Learned today.As I have discussed before in other threads, my high school shut down the tech ed. Class in our school in the late 1990's. The njrotc program I am a part of in the school had encroached on the room the class was presiously a part of.Now, the rotc is moving out of the room and guess what's going [back] in its place?!? Supposively a "manufacturing room" is being put back in the school. I haven't much information on what trade it will be geared toward, or even when it will be usable to the school. Despite all this, I can assure you that I will be first to be enrolled in the class as soon as it is open."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:Congratulations. Are they setting it up like a "maker space" for an after school program or will this be part of a manufacturing curriculum?
Reply:The rotc instructor said that he would try and use it for some of his own classes so I would take it that it would be like a maker space. It would be nice though if it would be part of the curriculum."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:I will keep posting as I find new information."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
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Reply:If tech ed is what interests you, you are in the wrong CT high school. You should transfer to one of the technical high schools, like Kaynor Tech, Bistol TEC, Platt, Prince, Vinal, etc. You can learn a trade while earning a high school diploma, and I am pretty sure it doesn't cost you anything. It is taxpayer funded like other public schools.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:sounds like "manufacturing room" could be another term for "free labor"  My High school had the wood working trade class. Everybody just goofed off in there so I didn't take it. Then they wanted to put in its place a sort of manufacturing class. Where they teach you how to fix lamps or make lamp shades and sew clothes and do wood work. Well the goal the school had was for the students to fix stuff and make stuff for them for free while they took it to the local flea markets and sold it for a profit. Lets just say that didn't fly after a year all the money that was extorted from the free child labor went into somebody's pockets and never returned to the school. Supposedly it was "stolen". Schools can be dirty.Just don't let them sell you a dream. Lol. Go to a legitimate trade school. Usually regular state funded public High schools wont offer you the knowledge you need to know when you leave them with a diploma and not knowing which way is up or down. The learning curriculum is totally screwed up in this country!Last edited by AndrewDavenport89; 05-19-2015 at 08:44 AM.
Reply:It really sucks how messed up people can be and how much even school administration can be corrupt. I was thinking about trade school, but i am not sure whether the education (reading, writing, arithmatic-wise) would be worth my time. I haven't heard anything about other schools around here, but a kid from abbott tech. Switched back into public high school because all the classes were were kids goofing around. Also, he learned very little in the fundamental classes. I do not want to just "get" a high school diploma, i want to learn everything that i can learn that will help me in life. I would rather explore tech/trade schools after high school for the technical part of welding (i.e. weld specs) and do apprenticeships or internships during the summers for the practical side of welding. Also, i would like to explore more about which fields within welding that i would enjoy the most before i commit to two more years of education in a specific field.P.S.- does anyone recommend anything specific regarding apprenticeships or internships within the field of welding (local or larger companies, etc.)"I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:Here is what you do my little buddy. Finish high school at you current location. After you have the HS diploma in hand you go straight to the best Technical college in your area. This way you get the right education curriculum that youth today need. I wish my High school was on a higher learning level, but oh well cant change the past. Take a welding class at the local college or the best one you can find in the area. Look them up, compare and pick the one with the best reviews and the highest job placement in the area. Majority of these tech. colleges are training their students for the real world. This means they give you welding knowledge, class knowledge for reading blueprints, and on hands experience building something that you might build on a jobsite. Once you do your year course or however long it might be. Some schools offer a apprenticeship program at a shipyard, fabrication assembly line company, etc... You will personally earn more money in Pipe Welding. I suggest get your hand in on pipe. Your in Connecticut. close to oil fields, and large industries up north. Also your in heavy yankee union territory lol  . Its all good I visit my family in Manhattan once a year. Check out the local pipefitters union, ironworkers hall, shipfitter/builders. You have many options up north. Sky scrapers, shipyards, Pennsylvania oil fields, pipelines, major factories. Down south we have the Oilfield and Shipyards lol. in some of the larger cities yea Ironworking on tall buildings. But let me suggest this, If you don't have major guts and balls of steel and a back that is like an Ox. Stay away from ironworking. I did it for 2 years. Roughest job I have ever had in my life. I would have to be really bad off to take another one of those jobs lol. Good luck and I wish you the best. You really have to practice this weld a lot to get it down pat. The trade school will help you. But the jobsite will teach you!
Reply:Originally Posted by Sprockmonster...P.S.- does anyone recommend anything specific regarding apprenticeships or internships within the field of welding (local or larger companies, etc.)
Reply:Another thing to keep in mind might be a community college course at night. The community college here has courses in welding a couple nights a week. That might allow you to stay in your normal school and probably be surrounded by eager students at night paying for themselves to go to school. Might have to be 18 before they would let you start a class, but you would likely be 18 before getting out of high school now I think. Man, was high school a lot of years past what I can remember now though. Good luck.SA-250 TMDSquarewave 200Thunderbolt AC/DC1951 G.E. welder
Reply:Originally Posted by AndrewDavenport89 You will personally earn more money in Pipe Welding. I suggest get your hand in on pipe. Your in Connecticut. close to oil fields, and large industries up north. Also your in heavy yankee union territory lol  . Its all good I visit my family in Manhattan once a year. Check out the local pipefitters union, ironworkers hall, shipfitter/builders. You have many options up north. Sky scrapers, shipyards, Pennsylvania oil fields, pipelines, major factories. Down south we have the Oilfield and Shipyards lol. in some of the larger cities yea Ironworking on tall buildings. Good luck and I wish you the best. You really have to practice this weld a lot to get it down pat. The trade school will help you. But the jobsite will teach you!
Reply:Pipe welding entails the actual welding process of piping systems. You will also have to have knowledge of blueprint readings to fit the piping together correctly if your fitter doesn't know what he is doing. Pipefitters are the people who mainly read blueprints and fit the product together for the pipewelder to finish out. It is best to be both. Because you will not go on to every jobsite with a designated fitter. I have had to do both jobs everywhere I have went. Or we would switch up. I fit he welds. Or I weld he fits. You could walk up to a local union once you have basic welding and fitting knowledge and say I want to join the union. Can you accept me into your apprenticeship program. Once your accepted you go to work at a hourly rate depending what hall you join. Most start out at $15-16/ hour. Then after a year or so you progress up the ranks and payrate. I know people who joined not knowing anybody. They just need hands that are willing to work and travel to jobsites. Also pay the union dues. This will give you pension and benefits through the union.
Reply:Okay and thanks for the speedy response!Ill look into some programs around me that i can take during and after high school to learn about fitting.Also, other than being willing to work hard, travel, and pay dues, what can boost my chances for joining... (If they look at anything other than this, of course)"I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:Being able to pass their fitters test or welding test. Knowing take-outs for 90's 45's flanges etc... And being able to pass a stick pipe test 6gR. Or tig root and hot pass 7018 fill and cap. That will better your chances. I told them I could pass fitters test and weld the pipe and pass as well. They still offered me a apprenticeship position because I was 19. I said no to their offer because I was making more than that offshore. Being young and able to pass their tests they probably will do you like me and take apprenticeship program. If I went back now though with my CWI card and years of experience I would go straight to journeyman. to either weld, fit or inspect.
Reply:Thank you for spending so much time writing to help me learn about this, and thanks for the information. I find that the more i know about welding as a career, the more confident i will feel about making a decision."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash
Reply:Sprockmonster, I'm not saying you do or don't, but be ready to pass a drug test at any time in the future and you'll be ahead of a growing percentage of the applicants.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Originally Posted by WyoRoySprockmonster, I'm not saying you do or don't, but be ready to pass a drug test at any time in the future and you'll be ahead of a growing percentage of the applicants.
Reply:6GR pipe test on a 2" XXH wall (Sch.120 or 160) or 6GR on a 6" sch. 120 or 160 Wall. There is a written fitters math test you have to take that asks you about take outs and how you would miter a 6" piece of pipe into a Branch connection on a 8-12" piece of pipe. How would you find your cope? Do you measure back 1/2 the size of the pipe for you cuts to the sides for your cope? How do you find the angle of a 45 degree cut. size of the pipe x .675 (I think) I am a little rusty on remembering exact figures. I am better at having my hands on it with a tape measure. A lot of people study study study and memorize these figures. I would rather be safe and use a tape.Say you have a 4" spool piece to build. It needs to be 12' 3" from face to face on each flange. Well you have to figure out how deep the flanges are. Which each one is 4" through the hub if I recall correctly. I don't have a fitters book by me. You have to subtract 8" from 12'3". And that's what length you cut the actual pipe. But they will describe the flange being a Class 600 Raised Face or a RTJ(Ring Groove) (Which requires 1/4"-1/2" more of a takeout. Plus if you use a 1/32 spacer on your joint fit up you have to subtract 1/16th more. After you do all your math you give an answer. Usually if your within a 1/16th to an 1/8th of an inch they may give you some lee-way on the test if it requires a lot of math. There are several different questions they may ask but that will be one of them.Last edited by AndrewDavenport89; 05-21-2015 at 02:52 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by WyoRoySprockmonster, I'm not saying you do or don't, but be ready to pass a drug test at any time in the future and you'll be ahead of a growing percentage of the applicants.
Reply:Originally Posted by SprockmonsterP.S.- does anyone recommend anything specific regarding apprenticeships or internships within the field of welding (local or larger companies, etc.)
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWI missed this the 1st time around. I'd look into seeing what General Dynamics Electric Boat in Groten needs to get into their apprentice program being you are from Connecticut. Being able to weld on Nuke subs will go a long ways even if you decide ship yard work isn't for you.http://www.gdeb.com/careers/working_...e_program.html
Reply:I found a few links and am wondering if you all could answer a few questions about them if you can.www.gowelding.org/welding-schools/connecticut/Has anyone tried or been to any of these facilities?And what does "accredited" mean?http://www.aws.org/certification/det...welder-programWould following the instructions in this get me closer to getting certified?And is there a search function in the aws website in which i would be able to find certified welding certification places?If anyone can help, thank you."I thank God for all the freedoms we've got in this country, I cherish even the right to burn the flag, but I'll tell you what, we've also got the right to bear arms and if you burn my flag I'll shoot you"-Johnny Cash