TIG, gasless ....??

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Hi guys,I have heard of the welding process known as TIG which would enable me to weld aluminum and stainless,To me as an electrician, it's all very mysterious but I've done some checks to find out that the cost of argon is far beyond my reach as pensioner/hobbyist, considering that I would only use it once in a blue moon....!My queston is, is it possible to TIG weld without the gas...?Thank you,Norm.
Reply:no, not really.Motorboating...in the Cleavage of the Tetons
Reply:What is your cost of argon?
Reply:I can Hobby Weld for a long time on a tank of argon, the cost is minimal in my opinion.Lincoln Precision TIG 185.Flex-Loc 150 torch.Super-Flex hose.Lincoln MIG 180.Victor Oxy/Act torch set.DeWalt Bandsaw with SWAG stand
Reply:Yup stick to flux core, as simply LEARNING how to tig takes about 50-100 tankfulls, let alone actually welding things.   1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:They'd call it T welding if you could.  Tunsten Inert Gas welding.
Reply:Small "loaner bottle" from local welding store is $35.  No contracts for bottle....Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller Spectrum 250DMiller Millermatic 200Bunch of old blue dinosaurs....
Reply:Originally Posted by jontheturboguySmall "loaner bottle" from local welding store is $35.  No contracts for bottle....
Reply:To try to TIG without gas will oxidize and destroy the electrode tip instantly.
Reply:it brings up an interesting discussion about the cost of argon.   I just filled at T bottle and it cost me $160 bucks.  I'm living on a much smaller island than the OP.  but I wonder what his and others cost is.
Reply:what's "T bottle"? 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:Some companies refer to a 300 cf cylinder as a "T" size.http://www.airgas.com/content/detail...=7000000000234.No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Huh, the monthly retail is cheaper than what it is here in the bay area (California )  23.00  Miller Dynasty 350Twenty Six HammersThree Crow BarsBig Rock
Reply:Originally Posted by Mick120In a word....expensive.All gas bottles over here, the customer pays monthly rent on.....the whole thing is a money spinner for the gas companies and, a PITA for us poor schmucks.G size of Argon, around AU$130.00 plus, monthly rental of around $18.00.
Reply:Originally Posted by gjn65MickWhere do you get argon for that little in Australia? I'm in Adelaide and just swapped a G2 (10.4 m3) cylinder with BOC - $350+ for the contents alone!
Reply:Originally Posted by tigbeastThey'd call it T welding if you could.  Tunsten Inert Gas welding.
Reply:Originally Posted by NormbourneMy queston is, is it possible to TIG weld without the gas...?Thank you,Norm.
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverMaybe in a high vacuum...
Reply:working in a high vacuum means no gas means nothing to ionize = no arcExperience is something you get right after you need it