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I picked up several motorcycle chains and a box of bicycle chains yesterday and some of them are loaded with thick dark grease. Whats the best way to get that grease off so I can start playing with them? One of my friends told me I should try soaking them in a solution of Dawn dish washing detergent but
not so sure thats sounding right. Dawn works great on oil slicked ducks and dishes but.... probably not so great on the type of grease used on chains.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Submerge in "Stoddard" solvent as it won't bother the "O" rings of the chains if so installed. Let them soak overnight with light agitation every few hours. It will loosen the aged grease and then wash with light pressure under hot water and soap with a brush.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:Simple Green does a good job on grease/ oil. I've used Dawn in the past, but usually not on something super dirty.Kerosene will work to remove heavy grease, as will diesel. Usually with really greasy parts I'll try and wipe off as much grease as possible on junk rags. Then I'll soak the parts on Kero or diesel in a large pan and go at them after they have soaked a bit with a good stiff brush and keep rinsing in the solvent. Then later I'll clean again with Simple green or Dawn, and after that often I'll finish prep with Acetone.A really good way to clean stuff like this is with a parts washer. I used to have a home made one years ago, but sold it when I moved. I'm lucky enough that my old bosses brother in law runs a auto shop. I've dragged machine parts over to his shop and used their parts washer on occasion. That helps deal with what to do with all the nasty stuff afterwords..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I clean my motorcycle chain with diesel and a nylon bristle brush, then wipe it dry with a rag, let it air dry for awhile and re-lube it. If you are planning to weld on them, then just scrub them with some diesel and brush(might help to let soak for a period first), wipe dry and wash with the Dawn detergent. I don't think the Dawn will do good for the initial cleaning, especially with the chain lube I use.I see DSW mentioned kerosene. But diesel and kerosene are about the same for this application, and diesel is easier to find and cheaper too. If you can find off-road diesel it's even cheaper, also called non-tax diesel, it's pink in color, just a dye added to it.Last edited by Bistineau; 09-28-2014 at 02:11 PM.
Reply:I would stuff them into a mayonnaise jar because it has a good sealFill half full with gasoline and shake.It works best outside and try not to smoke while you do it.If you let it settle out and pour it off, you can use the gas over and over.If you need it cleaner, change fluid and repeat.
Reply:Diesel again"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Was gonna suggest mineral spirits, then I saw "Stoddard Solvent", okaaaaaay???????? Must be something magicalAnd to my surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S MINERAL SPIRITS"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Any water based solvents will turn the grease into a very nice muckAnybody remember Cosmoline?? Used to be able to buy Army Surplus Jeeps packed in Cosmoline when I was a kid."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hold it up and spray it with brake cleaner to get the gum off and keep wiping it with rags. Then put it in a bowl and fill it up with more brake cleaner and let it sit overnight. Then hose it off good, real good, and let it dry.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Purple power 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:MINERAL SPIRITSNeed I say more"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hot water and laundry detergent or dish soap. It works well with cosmoline, grease, oils etc. Compressed air to get rid of any water, the heat stored in the material from the water gets rid of any residual. Then I like to come in with lacquer thinner, acetone or whatever. The soap and water cuts your use of these harsher substances to next to nothing.
Reply:if you are cleaning to weld I'd use ,5 or 600 hundred degrees will bake grease or rust preventing stuff that's even under the rollers down to an ash. PeterEquipment:2 old paws2 eyes (that don't look so good)1 bad back
Reply:Throw it in the bonfire Thermal arc 211iCk flex-loc 150 & 130Clamps, saws & grindersHarbor freight 80 amp inverter
Reply:90% isopropyl or denatured after mineral spirits. Obviously brake cleaner has specific hazards.Constant Current Weldor.
Reply:Get a gallon of Colman stove fuel it is a strong solvent but highly flamable . get an empty 1 gallon can & lid from a paint store , fill half way add chains put on lid shake , let settle open carefully , repeat as needed .(Colman fuel is naptha the same thing as safety clean solvent ) so do this out side and in the shade so the sun doesn't heat up the solvent . complete with a trip in the dishwasher . Then weld your projects ( WARNING this is not UL approved). gxbxc
Reply:Laquer thinner is the best degreaser ever made.
Reply:You can get "VM&P naphtha" at paint stores and most big-box stores. It is similar to mineral spirits but evaporates more quickly. It is my preferred solvent for removing grease. As Peter (Castweld) said, heat is also a reliable way of removing not only grease but other organic materials (paint, plastic, etc.) that may interfere with welding. For something small like chain, a good propane torch should be sufficient.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeHold it up and spray it with brake cleaner to get the gum off and keep wiping it with rags. Then put it in a bowl and fill it up with more brake cleaner and let it sit overnight. Then hose it off good, real good, and let it dry.
Reply:Originally Posted by castweldif you are cleaning to weld I'd use ,5 or 600 hundred degrees will bake grease or rust preventing stuff that's even under the rollers down to an ash. Peter
Reply:Rats!!! Sure do wish I would have taken the time to ask this question about the chains right after I picked them up Saturday morning. I could have brought the chains
. and a length of heavily enameled angle iron with me and tossed them on this Saturday night,----Talk about a missed opportunity since I am actually cleaning them to weld!!! And yet another missed opportunity yesterday morning when my husband started burning down all the feed bags and brush that had accumulated in our fire pit!!!--I have paper towels, rags, empty mayonnaise jars w/ lids, 5-gallon buckets w/ lids, a self-cleaning oven (thats been used for worse) , kerosene, Dawn, and Purple Power readily available. No diesel. I checked the shelves in the garage looking for mineral oil
. which I was pretty sure we did have and found brake cleaner instead. Im a label and MSDS reader
.. active ingredients in the brake cleaner I found are; Methanol, Toluene, and Acetone
. big yikes. Incidentally, the active ingredient in Simple Green is 2-Butoxyethanol.... nasty. --I do have a Weed Dragon, https://www.flameengineering.com/pro...?category_id=2 but
. Im a little low on propane at the moment. At this point
Im thinking Ill just take my goodies over to an auto parts store and see if theyd be willing to toss them in their tank for a fee. Cant hurt to ask.--Thank you everyone!!!MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Originally Posted by Equilibrium... Incidentally, the active ingredient in Simple Green is 2-Butoxyethanol.... nasty. ...
Reply:DSW Yes I guess if someone would throw in kitchen oven it would make for bad day! I didn't mention oven..... just heat range needed. Fire pit, charcoal fire, ect. Is what I was getting at. PeterEquipment:2 old paws2 eyes (that don't look so good)1 bad back
Reply:Stoddard solvent (dry cleaning fluid), Varsol, Coleman fuel, mineral spirits and what commonly gets labeled as "paint thinner" are all petroleum Naphtha products. VM&P (varnish makers and painters) naphtha is just an extra clean version of it that's been highly desulphurized. Lacquer Thinner on the other hand is a mix of other things (acetone, MEK, toluene, etc.).2-Butoxyethanol is a bi-polar solvent that works both on water soluble and non water soluble substances. It's been around for a long time, has low toxicity, and readily biodegrades. As a guy who's thrown a lot of things in bonfires over the years for various reasons I wouldn't recommend it for the purpose of degreasing something. It'll just dry it out and bake it on to where it will be a real PITA to get off with a wire brush. Especially on something like a roller chain that has so many hard to get at areas. And once you burn the grease solvents won't work very well to remove them. I'd stick to soaking it in a naphtha based solvent and working at it with a stiff bristle brush until I had the bulk of it off and what remained loosened up good. Then take it to the local do it yourself carwash for a final hot soapy pressure wash and rinse. Then you'll need to get them dried off quickly so they don't flash rust. May be a hair drier? To keep them from rusting maybe a lite coat of WD-40.
Reply:When it comes to using old pallets to build a bonfire pile, how about this one....I picked up several motorcycle chains and a box of bicycle chains yesterday and some of them are loaded with thick dark grease. Whats the best way to get that grease off so I can start playing with them? One of my friends told me I should try soaking them in a solution of Dawn dish washing detergent but
not so sure thats sounding right. Dawn works great on oil slicked ducks and dishes but.... probably not so great on the type of grease used on chains.MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Submerge in "Stoddard" solvent as it won't bother the "O" rings of the chains if so installed. Let them soak overnight with light agitation every few hours. It will loosen the aged grease and then wash with light pressure under hot water and soap with a brush.SlobPurveyor of intimate unparalleled knowledge of nothing about everything.Oh yeah, also an unabashed internet "Troll" too.....
Reply:Simple Green does a good job on grease/ oil. I've used Dawn in the past, but usually not on something super dirty.Kerosene will work to remove heavy grease, as will diesel. Usually with really greasy parts I'll try and wipe off as much grease as possible on junk rags. Then I'll soak the parts on Kero or diesel in a large pan and go at them after they have soaked a bit with a good stiff brush and keep rinsing in the solvent. Then later I'll clean again with Simple green or Dawn, and after that often I'll finish prep with Acetone.A really good way to clean stuff like this is with a parts washer. I used to have a home made one years ago, but sold it when I moved. I'm lucky enough that my old bosses brother in law runs a auto shop. I've dragged machine parts over to his shop and used their parts washer on occasion. That helps deal with what to do with all the nasty stuff afterwords..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I clean my motorcycle chain with diesel and a nylon bristle brush, then wipe it dry with a rag, let it air dry for awhile and re-lube it. If you are planning to weld on them, then just scrub them with some diesel and brush(might help to let soak for a period first), wipe dry and wash with the Dawn detergent. I don't think the Dawn will do good for the initial cleaning, especially with the chain lube I use.I see DSW mentioned kerosene. But diesel and kerosene are about the same for this application, and diesel is easier to find and cheaper too. If you can find off-road diesel it's even cheaper, also called non-tax diesel, it's pink in color, just a dye added to it.Last edited by Bistineau; 09-28-2014 at 02:11 PM.
Reply:I would stuff them into a mayonnaise jar because it has a good sealFill half full with gasoline and shake.It works best outside and try not to smoke while you do it.If you let it settle out and pour it off, you can use the gas over and over.If you need it cleaner, change fluid and repeat.
Reply:Diesel again"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Was gonna suggest mineral spirits, then I saw "Stoddard Solvent", okaaaaaay???????? Must be something magicalAnd to my surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S MINERAL SPIRITS"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Any water based solvents will turn the grease into a very nice muckAnybody remember Cosmoline?? Used to be able to buy Army Surplus Jeeps packed in Cosmoline when I was a kid."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hold it up and spray it with brake cleaner to get the gum off and keep wiping it with rags. Then put it in a bowl and fill it up with more brake cleaner and let it sit overnight. Then hose it off good, real good, and let it dry.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Purple power 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:MINERAL SPIRITSNeed I say more"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hot water and laundry detergent or dish soap. It works well with cosmoline, grease, oils etc. Compressed air to get rid of any water, the heat stored in the material from the water gets rid of any residual. Then I like to come in with lacquer thinner, acetone or whatever. The soap and water cuts your use of these harsher substances to next to nothing.
Reply:if you are cleaning to weld I'd use ,5 or 600 hundred degrees will bake grease or rust preventing stuff that's even under the rollers down to an ash. PeterEquipment:2 old paws2 eyes (that don't look so good)1 bad back
Reply:Throw it in the bonfire Thermal arc 211iCk flex-loc 150 & 130Clamps, saws & grindersHarbor freight 80 amp inverter
Reply:90% isopropyl or denatured after mineral spirits. Obviously brake cleaner has specific hazards.Constant Current Weldor.
Reply:Get a gallon of Colman stove fuel it is a strong solvent but highly flamable . get an empty 1 gallon can & lid from a paint store , fill half way add chains put on lid shake , let settle open carefully , repeat as needed .(Colman fuel is naptha the same thing as safety clean solvent ) so do this out side and in the shade so the sun doesn't heat up the solvent . complete with a trip in the dishwasher . Then weld your projects ( WARNING this is not UL approved). gxbxc
Reply:Laquer thinner is the best degreaser ever made.
Reply:You can get "VM&P naphtha" at paint stores and most big-box stores. It is similar to mineral spirits but evaporates more quickly. It is my preferred solvent for removing grease. As Peter (Castweld) said, heat is also a reliable way of removing not only grease but other organic materials (paint, plastic, etc.) that may interfere with welding. For something small like chain, a good propane torch should be sufficient.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeHold it up and spray it with brake cleaner to get the gum off and keep wiping it with rags. Then put it in a bowl and fill it up with more brake cleaner and let it sit overnight. Then hose it off good, real good, and let it dry.
Reply:Originally Posted by castweldif you are cleaning to weld I'd use ,5 or 600 hundred degrees will bake grease or rust preventing stuff that's even under the rollers down to an ash. Peter
Reply:Rats!!! Sure do wish I would have taken the time to ask this question about the chains right after I picked them up Saturday morning. I could have brought the chains
. and a length of heavily enameled angle iron with me and tossed them on this Saturday night,----Talk about a missed opportunity since I am actually cleaning them to weld!!! And yet another missed opportunity yesterday morning when my husband started burning down all the feed bags and brush that had accumulated in our fire pit!!!--I have paper towels, rags, empty mayonnaise jars w/ lids, 5-gallon buckets w/ lids, a self-cleaning oven (thats been used for worse) , kerosene, Dawn, and Purple Power readily available. No diesel. I checked the shelves in the garage looking for mineral oil
. which I was pretty sure we did have and found brake cleaner instead. Im a label and MSDS reader
.. active ingredients in the brake cleaner I found are; Methanol, Toluene, and Acetone
. big yikes. Incidentally, the active ingredient in Simple Green is 2-Butoxyethanol.... nasty. --I do have a Weed Dragon, https://www.flameengineering.com/pro...?category_id=2 but
. Im a little low on propane at the moment. At this point
Im thinking Ill just take my goodies over to an auto parts store and see if theyd be willing to toss them in their tank for a fee. Cant hurt to ask.--Thank you everyone!!!MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Originally Posted by Equilibrium... Incidentally, the active ingredient in Simple Green is 2-Butoxyethanol.... nasty. ...
Reply:DSW Yes I guess if someone would throw in kitchen oven it would make for bad day! I didn't mention oven..... just heat range needed. Fire pit, charcoal fire, ect. Is what I was getting at. PeterEquipment:2 old paws2 eyes (that don't look so good)1 bad back
Reply:Stoddard solvent (dry cleaning fluid), Varsol, Coleman fuel, mineral spirits and what commonly gets labeled as "paint thinner" are all petroleum Naphtha products. VM&P (varnish makers and painters) naphtha is just an extra clean version of it that's been highly desulphurized. Lacquer Thinner on the other hand is a mix of other things (acetone, MEK, toluene, etc.).2-Butoxyethanol is a bi-polar solvent that works both on water soluble and non water soluble substances. It's been around for a long time, has low toxicity, and readily biodegrades. As a guy who's thrown a lot of things in bonfires over the years for various reasons I wouldn't recommend it for the purpose of degreasing something. It'll just dry it out and bake it on to where it will be a real PITA to get off with a wire brush. Especially on something like a roller chain that has so many hard to get at areas. And once you burn the grease solvents won't work very well to remove them. I'd stick to soaking it in a naphtha based solvent and working at it with a stiff bristle brush until I had the bulk of it off and what remained loosened up good. Then take it to the local do it yourself carwash for a final hot soapy pressure wash and rinse. Then you'll need to get them dried off quickly so they don't flash rust. May be a hair drier? To keep them from rusting maybe a lite coat of WD-40.
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