Enco Bench Shear

admin

Anybody have one of these?  What do you think of it?  http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PMAKA=130-5700I find myself cutting lot's of tabs from 1/4" X 2" flat steel.  Chop saw and cut off wheels are kinda slow and a bandsaw is out of the question for the time being.  One of these with a short in feed table looks like it would be just the ticket.My name's not Jim....
Reply:..how much force is needed to cut 1/4" ..could be a bitch to pull..
Reply:Originally Posted by weldbead..how much force is needed to cut 1/4" ..could be a bitch to pull..
Reply:We have one that we have used for 12 years and it has been a great tool. It is used mostly for cutting corners and trimming miss cuts, the blade holds the edge very well. Good tool to have - does good on alum as well as steel.
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmI don't know, that's why I'm asking......Specs say it will do 1/4" X 2 3/4".  So it should work, but I don't know if it will last or get tweaked.  Looking for some hands on experience from somebody.
Reply:they work awsome but it cuts 1/4" round bar 1/8" flat material your going to need a beverly shear #3 it will cut 3/16" flat plate and it cost is over a $1000. new few hundred used if you can find a #3 used good luck
Reply:http://www.woodwardfab.com/woodward_...on_workers.htm
Reply:i think thats what he's looking for sure beats the price of a beverly shear
Reply:Not Jim, Out of curiousity, have you bought from Enco in the past?  If so, how would you rate them overall - say, compared to Northern or Grizzly? I've never done business with them.Miller Dynasty 200DXMillermatic 210 w/ Spoolmate 3035Hypertherm Powermax 380JD Squared Model 32Multiple fabrication tools & equipmentFull Powder Coating Setup
Reply:Originally Posted by millerfabNot Jim, Out of curiousity, have you bought from Enco in the past?  If so, how would you rate them overall - say, compared to Northern or Grizzly? I've never done business with them.
Reply:Originally Posted by papaharley03On the shear you linked to, I am reading 1/8" capacity.
Reply:Originally Posted by ed li think thats what he's looking for sure beats the price of a beverly shear
Reply:BoostI have that Enco shear, have had it for a few years. Good luck with 1/4" steel. I have a 3' handle on mine and it won't do 1/4 steel. In fact it hardly does 1/4 al. Maybe with a 6' or 8' cheater. Mine looks overloaded with 3' handle and my 200lb butt pulling on it. I gave up and bought a 55ton Edwards ironworker, now 1/4 is no problem! I still use shear on trimming thin material though- aint getting rid of it.PeterEquipment:2  old paws2  eyes (that don't look so good)1  bad back
Reply:I have a 8" chinese shear. looks similar 45 bucks off ebay.  It will shear 1/4" at 2" wide.  I sleeve the existing handle with a 4' cheater.  It will shear it,  effort required, not superman strenght however.  had it for 10 yrs blades in good shape.  Only problem is it does slightly spread and bow .  Definitely not prefered method.  The straightening and cleanup might make you wish you used a band saw.  The speading is more troublesome.   I did have a fence attached and a stop on the out put side.  I too now prefer my ironworker.          Also, with a cheater, watch for a falling handle, the spring will not be strong enough to support the added weight and could cause severe damage to a head.
Reply:This is the type of thing I had in mind.  1/4" X 2".  I've done quite a few of these for fixing hog gates.  These particular ones were done on a friends Ironworker.  The problem is that I always end up having to trade about $40 worth of repairs for 10 minutes of machine use.  I can drill the holes easy enough, it's the cutting to length that is noisy/time consuming. Attached ImagesMy name's not Jim....
Reply:horizontal bandsaw and stack the material on end and saw it.. or same with a chopsaw.tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:Thanks for the response.Miller Dynasty 200DXMillermatic 210 w/ Spoolmate 3035Hypertherm Powermax 380JD Squared Model 32Multiple fabrication tools & equipmentFull Powder Coating Setup
Reply:try a hf metal cutting blade on a skilsaw. cheap trial to see if you like it.miller thunderbolt 250vlincoln square wave tig 175 prolincoln idealarc mig sp250everlast tig 210EXTeverlast power plasma 50chicago electric (hf) 130 tig/90 arcchicago electric 90 amp flux wire3 sets oxy/acet
Reply:i looked at grizzly the 12" where $115.00 but they stop selling themso i have to ask myself why. what about a manual iron worker Attached Images
Reply:just out of curiosity, why not use an abrasive saw?  turned up on edge the blade cuts quickly through the flat bar.  Just touch up on burr.  If your tabs are all same gang cut them with the band saw.  I would be curious about the shear.  is there any deflection or twising of the tab.  I would tend to thing there would be some.
Reply:If that's all you are making maybe you should spring for a plasma cutter...Hold it! Time out...You have a Cutmaster 81...What's wrong with that?Set up and cut 100 for inventory.....zap!Last edited by zapster; 09-02-2011 at 12:40 PM.I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:I made a video just for you    cutting a piece of 2" x 1/4" flat steel bar.    don't think it gets much easier or quicker than thisTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:time is money, chop saw loud and messy, plasma to much workband saw (is what i use for now) takes a lot of time but hardly any clean up and you can walk away from it when it is cutting.the best would be a shear or ironworker set the fenceand punch away Attached Images
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawI made a video just for you    cutting a piece of 2" x 1/4" flat steel bar.    don't think it gets much easier or quicker than this
Reply:Originally Posted by SR20steveWhat type of blade is that, I want to get one stat for my 14" dewalt...that cut was awesome.Crap, it's 4000 rpm no load...
Reply:what, you have a cutmaster81 ?    make a small jig out of 4 pieces of angle iron that you can slide down a piece of stock and cut a bucket full... since you already own a nice plasma and a vertical mill i would build a cnc table... you can build one relatively inexpensive, and it would open up more business and save you more time..Last edited by brucer; 09-02-2011 at 08:46 PM.tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:Originally Posted by brucer since you already own a nice plasma and a vertical mill i would build a cnc table... you can build one relatively inexpensive, and it would open up more business and save you more time..
Reply:I think you need to hire a Janitor to clean up all the dust around yer shop.   Are ya welding in a barn or something?Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Here's my take on it. I have a band saw, chop saw, plasma, shear similar to what you're looking but better made (Roper Whitney I think), Beverly shear, and old home made power shear and a few other options available to me.  If I was to use the old home made power shear for these I would spend a lot of time flattening and then grinding the sharp edges off which is not clean work. Example. I redid a bunch of 1/4" gussets that my help sheared out a while back because it was turning into to much work to flatten and clean them up. Instead I cut the new ones out with my cutting torch (I already had it out and the plasma would of taken more time to setup than it was worth). It was much less work for me to do it that way than salvage the first batch.  The bandsaw would be slow but leave a clean cut, the chop saw would be faster but leave a pretty heavy burr. The hand shear similar to what you're looking at wouldn't even enter my mind on bar this heavy. I've used it up to 1/8" and even a little beyond that before but I don't think I'd consider doing 1/4". There is one thing that might make this a viable option if the shear can handle the stress (you might have to beef it up a little from the looks of it). I've considered in the past adding a air cylinder to this shear to make it powered. I've never done it because before I did it I got other methods to cut 10ga and thinner plate to size (dry cut saw first then plasma later on).  If I'm cutting a bunch of pieces to length and want to fastest method available I'll use the plasma with a home made square guide (similar to a speed square) and just zip them out. In my case it's usually weld plates for going into concrete that I'm doing. Now if my help is doing the job then the shear and band saw get used because they don't have the experience to make a good clean cut that I get.Millermatic 252XMT 304'sDynasty 280DXHypertherm PowerMax 1250Miller Trailblazer 302 EFIOptima PulserXR feeder and XR Edge gun and more athttp://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawI think you need to hire a Janitor to clean up all the dust around yer shop.   Are ya welding in a barn or something?
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmThis is the type of thing I had in mind.  1/4" X 2".  I've done quite a few of these for fixing hog gates.  These particular ones were done on a friends Ironworker.  The problem is that I always end up having to trade about $40 worth of repairs for 10 minutes of machine use.  I can drill the holes easy enough, it's the cutting to length that is noisy/time consuming.
Reply:Originally Posted by tbone550 If I was under a time crunch, I'd go for it and give him his little $40 repair gladly.  The heck with drilling holes and running a plasma/chopsaw/etc.  If you need these often, do a lot more than you need for just this job.
Reply:hi, is there a fastnal supply by you ??? we purchase from them and  Albany steel and brass corp . in chicago, illinois cheaper than we can make them. shipping might be expensive but heres the number . 312-733-1900. found this online, http://www.platt.com/product.aspx?zpid=745504  . good luck, bob