Compound Turbos, I'm SOOO Excited!!

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Soo, My new toy FINALLY showed up today. This is the WHOLE reason I have been getting my garage setup with tools and welding equipment! My next project is to take this.Remove this...Build all new piping for my new high pressure turbo, low pressure turbo and get my compounds up and running!!Here is the new charger. Still waiting on my low pressure to show up. 1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:I don't know much about turbos, what is the reason for changing it? Less lag? More boost?Another question, is everything in the pictures covered in oil?Airco Ac/Dc 300 HeliwelderMillerMatic 200 (stolen)Miller Maxstar 150STLMiller AEAD200LE (welding and generating power) Hobart MIG
Reply:How much boost you looking to run when your done?
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugI don't know much about turbos, what is the reason for changing it? Less lag? More boost?Another question, is everything in the pictures covered in oil?
Reply:lots of boost lots of fun until this happens  I always wanted to put twins on my dodge, but never did it. I then got rid of the truck maybe someday can get another. this engine wasn't mine its an internet picture Attached ImagesLast edited by idacal; 04-24-2014 at 09:09 PM.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugI don't know much about turbos, what is the reason for changing it? Less lag? More boost?Another question, is everything in the pictures covered in oil?
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyI'm shooting for over 1000hp. I'm building my truck up into a race truck. Hobbies lol.
Reply:What size turbos you going with ? I got billet 62 over s480 and have seen deep into the 80's on psi but not really worried about the gages when im doing than, LOL!
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugSounds like allot of fun..And $$   Keep things safe and post progress for us
Reply:Whats the price range gonna be on this build???
Reply:Originally Posted by Canadian WeldingWhats the price range gonna be on this build???
Reply:Compounds are fun.I did compounds for high altitude driving. 9000 feet above sea level is a breeze.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
Reply:You want to make over 1000hp with a ~700hp capable turbo? won't the GTX3582R choke it off since it only flows 75lb/min?That's a gas truck right? Why do you need compound turbo's to make like <20psi? sounds like a lot of work for little gain to me.Last edited by MikeGyver; 04-25-2014 at 02:10 AM.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Its a 6.0 diesel, IIRC. What are you doing with the stock turbo?
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverYou want to make over 1000hp with a ~700hp capable turbo? won't the GTX3582R choke it off since it only flows 75lb/min?That's a gas truck right? Why do you need compound turbo's to make like <20psi? sounds like a lot of work for little gain to me.
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverYou want to make over 1000hp with a ~700hp capable turbo? won't the GTX3582R choke it off since it only flows 75lb/min?That's a gas truck right? Why do you need compound turbo's to make like <20psi? sounds like a lot of work for little gain to me.
Reply:6.4L not a 6.0L.
Reply:It's a 6.0.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Stock rods are not the issue with the 6.0. The bottom end is VERY stout in these trucks. Many people have sprayed to way over 1000 on stock bottom end. The stock charger on the 6.0 flows nowhere near 75lbs/min. Lol. The setup I have in it now puts it at 633 to the wheels backed up with track times.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Quick update, I ordered a BUNCH of 304 stainless piping and mandrel bends the other day. They are set to deliver early next week. Can't wait!1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Get a Dodge Cummins.Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:You couldn't pay me to buy a dodge.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyYou couldn't pay me to buy a dodge.
Reply:I hate dodge trucks. The Cummins is a great engine but you can't keep a truck around that engine in a dodge.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Lets see some hard piping! hahaSo you bought a 6.0? LMAO ! Ive got 900k between my 12v and my 05 and have no problem with whats wrapped around my cummins
Reply:Originally Posted by spooled05So you bought a 6.0? LMAO ! Ive got 900k between my 12v and my 05 and have no problem with whats wrapped around my cummins
Reply:I'm interested to see how your stainless piping works out for you. Good luck!Miller Dynasty 200Millermatic 211Instagram?.... find me @ WELD_MEDIC
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyI hate dodge trucks. The Cummins is a great engine but you can't keep a truck around that engine in a dodge.
Reply:Originally Posted by Tuscany
Reply:Sorry, I was going off the fender vents.
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTIs that a pre dusted turbo so you can run a K&N and not worry about dusting the turbo?
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyNo it's brand new and the compressor wheel looks great. Just an optical illusion and I know all about k&n air filters. Lol.
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTIs that a pre dusted turbo so you can run a K&N and not worry about dusting the turbo?
Reply:Got a bunch of piping delivered today! One step closer. Working on getting a mock up motor here.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Originally Posted by rabidchimp110 volt turbo.  Sweet!-Aaron
Reply:Been a while since I updated. Injectors and twin pumps should be here hopefully friday. I picked up my mock up motor last week. Everything except for the fuel system plate that Paul is fabricating for me is here for the fuel system, and I finally got my LP charger. Just waiting until the 20th of this month for my water to air CAC to come off back order so I can get it ordered along with all the rest of the bends and piping I need to mock up the turbos. Here are a couple pics of the chargers and the fuel pump/filter mount that Paul is building me (ZTFAB). Pieces cut. Being fabbed up. Paul is trying a couple different ways of doing this so that is why one plate is MIG'd and the other two are TIG'd. Here are some pics showcasing Paul's work! Excellent job buddy. And here are the turbos. GTX3582R and GTX5518R. Next update will hopefully be when I get some piping mocked up!1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Originally Posted by TuscanyI hate dodge trucks. The Cummins is a great engine but you can't keep a truck around that engine in a dodge.
Reply:which ever parts you decide to actually use the mig or tig from ztfab. just hang the other ones on your wall.  there all works of art.
Reply:Lol I know. Paul does amazing work.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Been a while since I updated. Been making some slow progress. Still waiting on a bunch of parts but figured I could get some stuff done while I wait. So first I tried to figure out where the turbos were going to be mounted. I wanted to do both in the valley but that just wasn't possible due to how massive my LP is. Seriously this thing is insane. This is where the LP charger will sit when it's all done. The hp will sit in the valley but a little differently than how it is in this pic. Now before anyone says anything about the welding on the manifold you need to know I didn't do it. My buddy did and it was his first time welding on cast aluminum. Even though the welds look not the greatest they hold up well to the abuse. Lol. I finally got my mock up motor assembled, then started playing with where the HP turbo will sit and how to mount it. Built the hp mount and added some other parts from my engine so I could figure out piping and clearance dimensions and order the proper boots, bends, etc. That about wraps it up for now. Stay tuned for more.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:This looks fun, ill follow this for sure..Reminds me I need to put a bigger turbo in my little 4bt. The stock H1c little teeny turbo isnt enough haha. My f100 loaded with dirtbike and gear going up a big grade and it feels it... LOLHTP Invertig 201Lincoln Idealarc SP250Miller 180 AC StickBy farmall:They should have held the seagull closer to the work, squeezing evenly for best deposition.
Reply:Throw a gtx3582r on it. They are an awesome turbo man.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.
Reply:Not to sound real stupid ...But why not use one of the new variable drive blowers instead of all this pipe and all these expensive turbosI am not really educated in this...so educate meBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Any pros/cons of ditching the second alt. to make more room, presuming this is not a daily driver?MikeConstans Fides et IntegritasLincoln Weldanpower 150 ACAirco Aircomatic MIGet CAV II w/ spoolgunMillermatic 30a wirefeeder
Reply:Ok, so I'm a moron.  And I'm not trying to be a smart ***.But..................... What's the point of pushing all that air into the cylinders without lowering your compression ratio?????  Cram a bunch of air in there, and you'll raise the stock compression ratio, and blow crap sky high I'd imagineWhy not just buy a real truck with an engine designed for real pulling??I mean these are PICKUPS with pickup truck tranny's and rear ends.  They weren't designed for this kind of upgrade.I laugh when I see the new pickup commercials.  "It'll pull 30,000lbs"..........yeah,, for how long??Anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to be a smartass.  Your project looks like a lot of fun, and I'm sure you'll enjoy it."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Aw geeeeez   Aren't you the guy I gave a bunch of crap about blowing huge clouds of black smoke a while back?????  Always felt sorta bad about that one.  I sometimes forget that kids (and some who aren't kids) enjoy this kinda thing."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11Not to sound real stupid ...But why not use one of the new variable drive blowers instead of all this pipe and all these expensive turbosI am not really educated in this...so educate me
Reply:I am wondering why people who increase power using multiple turbochargers and higher boost do not see reality and make a real turbo -compound engine.  Post WW2 they were getting inefficiencies of a diesel engine and less than one pound per horsepower.  The Wright turbo-compound engine would have had a long career if the gas turbine hadn't taken over.
Reply:Sorry if you missed the memo lol but technology has advanced pretty damn far in the diesel world since post WWII.1973 Lincoln SA 200, Already replaced shunt coils, Idle board (SOLD)1984 Miller Dialarc 250HF, Miller water cooler, 250 AMP water cooled torch, you know the worx.