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I just got the okay to start welding curriculum at my school! I have inherited a couple machines from a local business and we put in a new shop, but now it comes time to outfit the shop and lay it out. Just looking for some Ideas. I have about 2500 sq. ft. to use.Looking forward to seeing what you all have!Some blue machinesSome red machineslots of heavy steel
Reply:This is not high school but this is the welding school I went to. It was at Lincoln Electric.
Reply:How many different processes do you hope to have? How many students per class.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Originally Posted by JudgelessThis is not high school but this is the welding school I went to. It was at Lincoln Electric.
Reply:WOW! That is pretty cool. I went to Tulsa Welding this summer for a teacher workshopIt was pretty good, but not as nice as that Lincoln one.farmshopHow many different processes do you hope to have? How many students per class.We have the following:2 1980s miller 200 MIG machines2 idealarc stick welders, one only works on AC1 Lincoln tombstone AC welder that works part time2 Miller shopmate's one setup to do stick, other is setup for hi freq tig1 Miller Syncrowave 2004 Lincoln Pro mig 140 on mobile carts5 oxy-acetylene stations. I have one welding 2 class with 5 kids and another welding 1/2 with 15 welding 1 and 1 welding 2 kid.Last edited by moparman68; 08-21-2014 at 04:04 PM.Some blue machinesSome red machineslots of heavy steel
Reply:Wish we would've had a welding class back when I was in high school. Closest thing we had was to take Ag and you pretty much learnt the basics. I've heard from my daughter that they've started a program but I'm not for sure??? Wouldn't mind getting involved in it if I didn't have to work just to help out the instructor.93 Bobcat 225GMillerMatic 135HF Tig 91811
Reply:Way back when we had 4 booths with mix and match welders all stick. We had one mig my senior year but weren't allowed to use it. We had a 4 station oa station.we were split up 2 to a welder and 2 to a oa rig hard to learn much and a miracle we didn't blow something up hard to supervise a split up classMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:the trades have gotten a very bad rap in this country for a lot of years. kids coming out of college with slim prospects (mine included) but the universities keep grinding out graduates. somehow doing a job of work with your hands is looked down on. sorry to hijack the thread but this really twists my shorts in a knot. i doubt it but maybe the opening of this welding school is the beginning of a trend. rant over.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by farmshopWay back when we had 4 booths with mix and match welders all stick. We had one mig my senior year but weren't allowed to use it. We had a 4 station oa station.we were split up 2 to a welder and 2 to a oa rig hard to learn much and a miracle we didn't blow something up hard to supervise a split up class
Reply:Moparman,Where are you located?30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30" vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:Originally Posted by docwelder. sorry to hijack the thread
Reply:You left out the part about calling you a maggot or a baby faced momma's boy... Then telling you to drop and give him 20. .No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Originally Posted by FORTEALLOYRotations between SMAW booths & the OA bench. Mig machine in the corner collecting dust. I asked about it once, was informed "Thats not real welding. Anyone can do it..."R Lee Ermey school of welding. You will learn (master...) OA and stick in all positions! You will not undercut, and you will not have inclusions! You will properly chip the slag. You will not lose control of your puddle and splatter it all over the floor! You will wear safety glasses at all times! If, and only if, you master those techniques, then I may let you try my beloved TIG machine!
Reply:I don't have any pictures for the OP but I took a Ag Shop class in college that included quite a bit of welding. We just welded coupons for practice in the different positions. The booths were all roughly 4ft by 4ft. There were 4 o/a booths, 6 arc welders (2 forneys and 4 lincoln ideal arc 250's. I went out and found an ideal arc as fast as I could for my family's farm shop after class was over) and 2 lincoln 250 amp mig machines. Although I would've enjoyed a more dedicated welding class after I completed this one (we welded maybe for 3 or 4 weeks with only 2 or 3 days in the shop per week as the rest were in a classroom), the class did give me an opportunity to learn the basics. Along with some help from Jody's videos at weldingtipsandtricks.com, the class helped me a lot. I feel a lot of people would've benefited from watching his videos in the classroom before we welded or added new positions. Reading out of a book didn't get many of us very far in the learning department. We did have fume extractors above the mig and arc welding stations powered by a central blower. There was an iron worker type machine to cut coupons and a pretty big bench grinder with 1 grinding wheel and one wire wheel. We manly used it to polish the welds up for inspection and help remove any tough slag deposits (we only used 6011 electrodes, mig was short circuit). The arc booths, mig booths, grinder and iron worker were in roughly a 20 x 40 room. The o/a booths were oddly on the edge of the wood shop next door. That probably isn't the best idea but may be a you may have a similar set up at your school. I'm sure if your actually building some projects you'll need to use more of that 2500 sq/ft. But the booths didn't take up much space. We had probably 20 students in the class. And Now looking back (I graduated in spring 2013) we were doing wood projects in the same class so once we were done with our wood projects we moved into welding. That kept us spread out enough that we had plenty of machines to go around. I grew up in a farm family in central illinois and never took a shop class in high school. Went to a junior college for 2 years in Springfield and never took a tech class (except a short ag class where I think we had to lay 2 weld beads and I had never arc welded before). By the time I got to the four year school, I was interested in welding and this class allowed me to learn and I'd go home and practice (we had a miller bobcat 3 phase for generator use and a hobart handler 140). Looking back on it I really wish I'd taken an actual welding course at the junior college while I was there. I'd say I'm mostly self taught as there wasn't too much instruction for me as some had no idea what to do and really didn't care about it so out instructor worked with them. I currently have an ideal arc 250 ac/dc and a miller 252. Recently added a scratch start TIG setup for the ideal arc. Also still have the miller bobcat and hobart handler but they aren't used as much anymore. We got the 252 for hardfacing plow shanks and just spent a couple days running at 28 volts and 330 ipm Wfs so we really didn't go overkill on machine size. I'm sorry for the long post but I'm sure there are many others like me that really would use basic welding skills learned in a high school course or go further and turn it into a career. Thanks for your hard work!Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMM252Miller Bobcat 3 PhaseHobart 140Jet BandsawSmith Oxy-Acetylene TorchMore Ideas than Skills...
Reply:Originally Posted by cfrank17815I don't have any pictures for the OP but I took a Ag Shop class in college that included quite a bit of welding. We just welded coupons for practice in the different positions. The booths were all roughly 4ft by 4ft. There were 4 o/a booths, 6 arc welders (2 forneys and 4 lincoln ideal arc 250's. I went out and found an ideal arc as fast as I could for my family's farm shop after class was over) and 2 lincoln 250 amp mig machines. Although I would've enjoyed a more dedicated welding class after I completed this one (we welded maybe for 3 or 4 weeks with only 2 or 3 days in the shop per week as the rest were in a classroom), the class did give me an opportunity to learn the basics. Along with some help from Jody's videos at weldingtipsandtricks.com, the class helped me a lot. I feel a lot of people would've benefited from watching his videos in the classroom before we welded or added new positions. Reading out of a book didn't get many of us very far in the learning department. We did have fume extractors above the mig and arc welding stations powered by a central blower. There was an iron worker type machine to cut coupons and a pretty big bench grinder with 1 grinding wheel and one wire wheel. We manly used it to polish the welds up for inspection and help remove any tough slag deposits (we only used 6011 electrodes, mig was short circuit). The arc booths, mig booths, grinder and iron worker were in roughly a 20 x 40 room. The o/a booths were oddly on the edge of the wood shop next door. That probably isn't the best idea but may be a you may have a similar set up at your school. I'm sure if your actually building some projects you'll need to use more of that 2500 sq/ft. But the booths didn't take up much space. We had probably 20 students in the class. And Now looking back (I graduated in spring 2013) we were doing wood projects in the same class so once we were done with our wood projects we moved into welding. That kept us spread out enough that we had plenty of machines to go around. I grew up in a farm family in central illinois and never took a shop class in high school. Went to a junior college for 2 years in Springfield and never took a tech class (except a short ag class where I think we had to lay 2 weld beads and I had never arc welded before). By the time I got to the four year school, I was interested in welding and this class allowed me to learn and I'd go home and practice (we had a miller bobcat 3 phase for generator use and a hobart handler 140). Looking back on it I really wish I'd taken an actual welding course at the junior college while I was there. I'd say I'm mostly self taught as there wasn't too much instruction for me as some had no idea what to do and really didn't care about it so out instructor worked with them. I currently have an ideal arc 250 ac/dc and a miller 252. Recently added a scratch start TIG setup for the ideal arc. Also still have the miller bobcat and hobart handler but they aren't used as much anymore. We got the 252 for hardfacing plow shanks and just spent a couple days running at 28 volts and 330 ipm Wfs so we really didn't go overkill on machine size. I'm sorry for the long post but I'm sure there are many others like me that really would use basic welding skills learned in a high school course or go further and turn it into a career. Thanks for your hard work!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply:These are some pictures of the shop in one of our local high schools.
Reply:Originally Posted by moparman68I just got the okay to start welding curriculum at my school! I have inherited a couple machines from a local business and we put in a new shop, but now it comes time to outfit the shop and lay it out. Just looking for some Ideas. I have about 2500 sq. ft. to use.
Reply:Originally Posted by Anthony83Wish we would've had a welding class back when I was in high school. Closest thing we had was to take Ag and you pretty much learnt the basics. I've heard from my daughter that they've started a program but I'm not for sure??? Wouldn't mind getting involved in it if I didn't have to work just to help out the instructor.
Reply:Here are some pics of the shop we have, beware it is bare!Some blue machinesSome red machineslots of heavy steel
Reply:I don’t have any photos. In the late 70’s our high school Ag Class had a welding station that consisted of a small metal table outside the shop building and an AC Lincoln cracker box right inside the door. Only two people got to weld each class. We were given 2 1/8” 6010 rods each to last us for the 1 hour class. We had to bring our own scrap metal to practice on. Wasn’t much but it’s where I got the bug.
Reply:it may take me a while to find all of them, but here's a start. Keep in mind I am an Ag mechanics shop at a high school. School population is around 1700 this year.classroom:outside the shop:Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:these were taken a few years ago. I thought I had better ones, but I can't find them. I may take more today if the kids do a good job on cleanup.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:Mike,That shop is immaculate! PM me your contact info it would be great to collaborate!Some blue machinesSome red machineslots of heavy steel
Reply:Thanks. A rundown of what I've got in my shop:19 Lincoln Powerwave C300 (5 with Tig gas valves) 1 Lincoln PowerMIG 2551 Lincoln precision Tig 2252 dynasty 200dx Tig runners 1 Lincoln invertec V-350 w/LF-72Miller trailblazer 325 EFI EXCEL POWER 2 thermal dynamics hand plasmas 6 oxy acetylene torch carts4x8 cnc plasma w/oxy torch2 Ellis drill presses Ellis 1600 band sawJancy tubing benderJancy belt grinderPIRANHA P36 PIRANHA P70 Metosa 14x40 gear head lathe Clausing 9x49 knee mill Light machines tabletop cnc mill Versa laser 12x24 50w CO2 laser engraver48" 16ga slip roll50" squaring shear24" box and pan brake8' 12ga straight brake. 3" shop outfitters roller40" square demmeler fixturing table.Last edited by teachagmech; 09-09-2014 at 09:21 PM.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:Soooooo jeeeeaaaaallllooouuuuusssssssWe are very fortunate. I learned on a tombstone and a Lincoln crank front rectified AC/DC monster that would overheat the leads if you welded all period. We had the one mig that really sucked and 3 huge cv power supply/feeder combos in the back shop that didn't really work well either. I learned to Tig by myself with 2% thoriated that I found in a box and collets that I bought myself. My ag mech class in high school was a picnic table production shop filled with idiots. I vowed to never be like that. I think I'm doing alright on that promise.Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:Man I don't want to think how many years it's been since I saw baby lockers like that when I was in shop in Jr high.....No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:I have another 130+ lockers in the hallway in the classroomTeach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:Originally Posted by teachagmechMy ag mech class in high school was a picnic table production shop filled with idiots. I vowed to never be like that. I think I'm doing alright on that promise.
Reply:I don't even teach OFW. IMO it's a waste of time in my area. The few kids that want to Tig weld can just Tig weld. Acetylene is too dam expensive for kids to leave on. I can't imagine how much money would be wasted in charging a manifold with acetylene. I have a mini heart attack opening up my argon manifold....Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:When I took welding in high school it was four kids per semester. Two learned to weld two to braze, we had a booth in the coroner with canvas curtains on two sides and one welder an old Lincoln welder motor/ generater .You had to turn on the motor then the gen.It also had a big wheel in the center to adjust amps. the brazing group was just out side the curtain with a fire brick topped table ..And no the wheels on the cars were not made of stone back then. gxbxc
Reply:Wait, there were cars?Teach Ag Mech - Mike At Home:Lincoln Electric AC225Miller Challenger 172Gas AxeWork:eclectic bunch of 90's vintage blue boxes
Reply:Hey teachagmechanics, It looks like you get your acetylene from Fresno Oxygen,
Reply:Originally Posted by 123weldHey teachagmechanics, It looks like you get your acetylene from Fresno Oxygen,
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