The Invertec v-350pro has landed....

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/231244162671...84.m1497.l2649Well,The welder arrived UPS safely, and was packed like a tank.Got it unboxed, and I'll be running up town to buy a plug.They don't open for 45mins....Also my Ln-25 is here, and I'll be getting it all setup asap.Pics----~John
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Reply:Is that the construction model?Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPIs that the construction model?
Reply:Here is Lincoln's line up. http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us.../invertec.aspxDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Error thirty three (33) on power up.manuel.http://search.tb.ask.com/search/redi...eRD4wuu&ord=1&YT video will be up in a second.here's the video.
Reply:What does the other end of the power cable look like? Red, white & green wire how are they connected in the welder?  Or maybe your supply voltage is not correct.  Just shooting in the dark without more info/pictures.  Bob
Reply:Ummm...I did weld 1 in bead with this machine.132amps crisp full arc force.Changed to soft, and than the error code came on.I can check.
Reply:Does this help?Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 06-24-2014 at 05:17 PM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Well,I pulled the cover off to look at the wires.Oh one more thing.This was in the 460 mode.I flipped the switches in the back to 200-230 volt.And put the cable spade on the 220-230 spade.Is there any other relinking that needs done???The white, red and black wires go into the power on switch on the front.The red is ment to be taped back right??
Reply:Yes, Dave.The one I'm getting is the err-33, holds for 3 seconds on power up.It means not enough voltage.Something like that.Please instruct.John
Reply:If the machine was on the higher voltage when shut off, was off for several months, and restarted on 230 volts, my v250 model says it can take up to 30 minutes for it to work correctly on that first start up.My manual says turn on for a half hour, turn off then back on, should work normally from there.Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 06-24-2014 at 05:27 PM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:From my v250 manual - hopefully I interpreted that correctly and your issue is similar?Attachment 751541Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveIf the machine was on the higher voltage when shut off, was off for several months, and restarted on 230 volts, my v250 model says it can take up to 30 minutes for it to work correctly on that first start up.My manual says turn on for a half hour, turn off then back on, should work normally from there.
Reply:Ok,I powered the welder on, gauges say err- 32-4x....No fan.I'll let it sit.John
Reply:That's what the manual says for the v250 model?Hopefully you wired it correctly?Did you download the manual from the lincoln site?Edit: never mind, I see you got the manual.Did you check the machine end to make sure it's wired correctly too?Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 06-24-2014 at 06:13 PM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:The green wire is the ground.Goes to the bottom of the welder.I taped the red 3ph wire back.Inside the machine the three hot wires go to the power on switch on the front.The red one should be cold.The white and black are L1 and L2.The spade wire on the back is 22O-230 prong.Breaker switches are 200-230v mode.What more is there???John
Reply:Man, doesn't sound like it could be wrong at all.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Wonder if this guy can help?http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ew-guy-in-townDave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveWonder if this guy can help?http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ew-guy-in-town
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopI pm'd him.Is he a current member???
Reply:No luck Dave.The idle thing didn't work.Anybody have some more suggestions???I'm not sure what I'm missing.
Reply:That sucks bud - I'm sure someone will know Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:here's some more pics.
Reply:Thanks for making me feel real good Steve....I talked to this guy on the phone, and he sounded like a great guy, he mentioned that he had two of them, and that the other one had zero problems....I'll show him this thread, and maybe talk to him on the phone.It is pretty dirty inside.We'll see.I think I'll link this thread to millerwelds.Thanks,~John
Reply:I'll wait a couple days, see if I get anymore trouble shooting tips, than I'll contact the seller........zap
Reply:Are you sure you're getting 240v at your outlet? I'm sure you checked, but I thought I'd mention it since I had a voltage problem in our house and it turned out the incoming power connection from the pole was corroded and we had all sorts of weird problems.
Reply:Originally Posted by davidlutzAre you sure you're getting 240v at your outlet? I'm sure you checked, but I thought I'd mention it since I had a voltage problem in our house and it turned out the incoming power connection from the pole was corroded and we had all sorts of weird problems.
Reply:That's within the plus/minus of 10% for input voltage (which I see listed often) so that wouldn't worry me.But, that was a few months ago, I'd check it again now just to rule it out.Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 06-25-2014 at 12:00 AM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Well,All my other welders work fine on it, but they might not be as sensitive.Let me go stick a screw driver in the outlet and see how hot it is.
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopWell,All my other welders work fine on it, but they might not be as sensitive.Let me go stick a screw driver in the outlet and see how hot it is.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveThat only works with paper clips
Reply:Well,Cruizer told me how to "clr-all", and I did, but it just returns to err-33, for the seconds then begins to scroll.Are you guys sure red is 3ph???Would it hurt to switch out the black or white and stick the red in???Just thinking...
Reply:You're a very patient guy.   I know it's your new toy and you want it to work.  You paid a lot.  I'd be the same way, so take advice from those being objective here. Ship that POS back ASAP and buy another.  Looks pretty beat up inside.  A little compound and wax can make any welder look nice on the outside.  What are you gonna do if u fix it and it craps out in a month?  Then you're screwed royally.  Return that phucker ASAP!This is why inverters are such a cat in the bag.Last edited by Drf255; 06-25-2014 at 05:29 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopAre you guys sure red is 3ph???
Reply:Shouldn't the connection be ...at least that's my take from ugly's red- hot black- hot green -groundwhite to ground or nothingBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Killdozer - Here's the wiring per the manual - I believe the reason the colors are different than the norm is because it can be wired for 3 phase as well.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:The green wire is the ground.Goes to the bottom of the welder.I taped the red 3ph wire back.Inside the machine the three hot wires go to the power on switch on the front.The red one should be cold.The white and black are L1 and L2.The spade wire on the back is 22O-230 prong.Breaker switches are 200-230v mode.Usually when connecting single versus 3 phase L1 ans L3 are used for single phase, unless your manual tells you differently.JerryLast edited by storeman; 06-25-2014 at 10:24 AM.30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:Originally Posted by storemanThe green wire is the ground.Goes to the bottom of the welder.I taped the red 3ph wire back.Inside the machine the three hot wires go to the power on switch on the front.The red one should be cold.The white and black are L1 and L2.The spade wire on the back is 22O-230 prong.Breaker switches are 200-230v mode.Usually when connecting single versus 3 phase L1 ans L3 are used for single phase, unless your manual tells you differently.Jerry
Reply:He has the welder connected correctly, there's something wrong with it internally.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve.30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopSo your telling me to put the red in there in place of the black or white?
Reply:You have wired it right....My MistakeSend it back it's junkThat's the problem with not being able to test run a used machine before you buy itPeople lieLast edited by killdozerd11; 06-25-2014 at 11:29 AM.Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749No, follow the instructions in the manual. You have it right. The problem is in the machine's circuitry, not in the way you wired it up. Switch the leads and it will most likely not even power up since you're going to need to send a minimum of 230 volts to initially power the precharge circuit.I would just send in back to him if you can John.IMHO of course
Reply:Can anyone explain how I got it to powerup the first time???132amps and 70volts.I welded for to seconds and it was like running 6010 way to hot.I glanced at the machine, and it was blinking dotted lines, which means it calculated and memory stuff.Than it went straight to err-###I haven't changed a thing.~JohnBTW,I'm supposed to allow 3 days till I can open a eBay case.Last edited by AKweldshop; 06-25-2014 at 11:20 AM.
Reply:time for wishfull thinking is over, get out of it with as much skin as you can.
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopCan anyone explain how I got it to powerup the first time???132amps and 70volts.I welded for to seconds and it was like running 6010 way to hot.I glanced at the machine, and it was blinking dotted lines, which means it calculated and memory stuff.Than it went straight to err-###I haven't changed a thing.~JohnBTW,I'm supposed to allow 3 days till I can open a eBay case.
Reply:You plugged it in to 240 volts, with the machine set to 460?and you are blaming him for a faulty machine?
Reply:Originally Posted by wheresmejumperYou plugged it in to 240 volts, with the machine set to 460?and you are blaming him for a faulty machine?
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonMy guess is that the machine was sent to you with last memory input. when first you powered it up, it reset power input to your service, and set new memory input, and then error code. When you powered up again it went straight to error code. At least that is how my Dynastys work.